Sixers Offseason thread/ sixerfan1976 updated to page 84

[51X3RF4N]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NAAFcrdY5I

Yeah I don't see why the Sixers would be high on such an offensively raw big man like Henson....


He clearly has improved. Still think he's raw? Still don't want him? Maybe he did the same thing at the Sixers workout and impressed them.

[The Sixer Fixer]

The speculation with the Chicago/Noah thing is they want to move either Deng or Noah to get that high pick to take their cheaper replacement (Barnes for Deng and probably Drummond for Noah).

The thought is no one will trade a high lottery pick for Deng who needs surgery and will likely miss a chunk of the season so now the idea might be to deal Noah for that high pick. They already have Asik who can fill in once they re-sign him (and they have said all along they will). Taking a guy like Drummond would make sense in that case because with Boozer/Asik locked in, he's not forced to play major minutes early on.

[KrazySixersD]

Id resign Lou if we trade Iggy to GSW. Not enough scoring in that lineup IMO.

Just watched some Highlights of Henson and i change my opinion on him, He isnt that raw as some people say, Good Rebounder, Solid mid range jumper(ala Lavoy) Blocks shots. Could def bring a nice impact next year. The one area he needs to improve is strength, how is he going to handle these big NBA guys in the post.

dude what did you watch??

go watch the draft video on him on draftexpress.com

he shot something like 34 or 35% on his jump shots... thats not solid

did you see him in the post?? doing ridiculous scoop shots while having to be very low and reaching to get it off?? that crap will get swatted SO HARD by nba posts... he wont ever get position on them...

he turns his body when he shoots, another thing they will have to fix

this dude is so far from an nba big its hilarious

on top of that... im getting tired of the HOMER UNC FANS coming in here defending him... im a die hard purdue fan and you didnt see me advocating taking jajuan johnson and etwuan moore in the first

henson is TWO YEARS OLD than anthony davis, and still behind him in every single category, even body wise..

this guy is a HORRIBLE pick at 7 AND giving up iggy to get him... pathetic

im almost hoping drummond is gone by 7 now so that i dont explode in rage if we pass on him... lamb will most definatley be there tho and that will piss me off too... all this crap about wanting a shooter and a scorer at the wing position... lamb is the epitome of that

[jdimaggio555]

I'm a big Hensen fan and think he would be a perfect addition to the core of Turner and Holiday. Sixerfan, your posts suggest that Rivers and Ross are the target at 15. What happens if Lamb falls? Do they have him ranked higher than both Rivers and Ross and are assuming he won't be available? Also, do they have Rivers ranked higher than Ross or vice versa?

[KrazySixersD]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NAAFcrdY5I

Yeah I don't see why the Sixers would be high on such an offensively raw big man like Henson....


He clearly has improved. Still think he's raw? Still don't want him? Maybe he did the same thing at the Sixers workout and impressed them.

wtf is this supposed to prove?

hes practicing against a bunch of average joe's?? none of those guys are nba prospects... atleast it sure dont look like it

how about going to draftexpress.com and watching their strengths and weaknesses video on him

look at him vs college players in the post... its a joke... his "strengths" as they show look more like weaknesses... taking falling scoop shots in the post... that **** is ugly

[sixerfan1976]

I'm a big Hensen fan and think he would be a perfect addition to the core of Turner and Holiday. Sixerfan, your posts suggest that Rivers and Ross are the target at 15. What happens if Lamb falls? Do they have him ranked higher than both Rivers and Ross and are assuming he won't be available? Also, do they have Rivers ranked higher than Ross or vice versa?

Its been strangely quiet on lamb. Not sure how they value him

[sixerfan1976]

I'm a big Hensen fan and think he would be a perfect addition to the core of Turner and Holiday. Sixerfan, your posts suggest that Rivers and Ross are the target at 15. What happens if Lamb falls? Do they have him ranked higher than both Rivers and Ross and are assuming he won't be available? Also, do they have Rivers ranked higher than Ross or vice versa?

Its been strangely quiet on lamb. Not sure how they value him

[Gsraider]

Krazy, draftexpress is a good site, but is not the be all, end all of draft sites and certainly not the final say as to how a draft prospect will pan out. It's clear by your 6,000 posts on the subject that you don't like Henson, but if nothing else, it shows that Philly is not sitting by idly and hoping for change. If they do come away with two picks in the top 15, they are attempting to rebuild somewhat. Like you, I would easily prefer Drummond, but I am not going to completely write off Henson considering what I think to be a pretty good draft history by guys like Witte and DiLeo.

I remember last year when L. Allen was considered a completely wasted pick, with some even going so far as to call his selection a favor to the coach at Temple. Then, ESPN ranked him as the worst player in the NBA. Obviously, that was a fluke, but it also proves that these guys do at least have some semblance of a clue as to what they are doing. Meanwhile, Henson has been almost univerally projected as a top 10 pick almost everywhere I have gone and looked, so obviously there are some out there that have been duped. If Philly takes him, we have no choice but to hope the FO was right about him. Our opinions on this board are not going to change the pick.

[Gsraider]

Thanks as always Sixerfan. Even if none of it pans out, it's easily the most interesting reads within this thread around draft time and the trade deadline. For me, I don't think I would take RJ on unless Drummond was there at #7 and if Henson is the target, I would be working GS hard to find another taker for RJ instead. Are they able to amnesty him? Then again, they could also make a move for Deng if Philly demands too much and CHI would take on RJ or Beidrens.

[51X3RF4N]

Krazy, you clearly hate Henson or UNC or something. Did Henson murder your family? I'm not sure why you are getting up in flames about this.

I'm not advocating drafting him OVER Drummond. I'm saying if the Sixers trade up for him I won't be upset.

But to be honest, I could easily see him becoming the 2nd best player in this draft.

[KrazySixersD]

im only referencing dx because they actually show video of him playing in games... both good and bad.... unlike a meaningless workout video which appears to be against kids outside a rec center level talent....

yes henson has been a top 10 pick this whole process.... drummond was the 2nd overall pick through most of this process until lately

we'll just see what happens... if we draft ross... dude is not a SF... hes smaller and shorter length than evan turner who struggles at SF... so those of you thinkin this guy can play the SF position are wrong

he can easily play the 2 guard spot, and maybe be turner's backup at the 2 if we end up with richardson and wright... because richardson and wright are both bigger longer and can shoot the 3 well... ross will probably get 16 mpg behind turner at the 2 if thats how things go down

if our frontcourt is henson and vuc... smh... well... its gona be a long year

[NJ SixerFan]

In all honesty if the sixers move up to 7/8 and keep 15 I'd much rather them select Leonard over Henson assuming Drummond is off the board. While Henson is a terrific shot blocker with his frame I just don't see him being able to put on the weight he will need to succeed at anything more than a weak side shot blocker which has its need in the nba I just don't see him worth a 7th pick. Oh and before I'm flamed I'm not sure Leonard is worth the 7th pick either just stating a player I'd like the sixers to select over Henson. Than at 15 if pj3 is on the board that would be my no brainer pick.. Also maybe sullinger If he falls, at 15 even with supposed injury flag I think would be great value. Id be ok with a big and shooter coming out of the draft although I'm hoping it's not rivers at 15 I'd rather the sixers go big at both picks and with brands amnesty money look to steal Eric Gordon away from NO.

Also a question for sixerfan I know it was asked but didn't see it answered is perry jones in the eyes of our front office a sf or a Pf?

[tgo2223]

Id resign Lou if we trade Iggy to GSW. Not enough scoring in that lineup IMO

fair point. I could see Rivers being a better fit than Ross if we obtain two SF in jefferson and wright too.

Jrue/Lou
Turner/Rivers/Silas
Jefferson/Wright
Humphries/Thad/Henson
Lavoy/Nik

I think Jefferson is bought out or traded the following season as an expiring contract. He could end up just being another Nocioni to our franchise. So I'm thinking that Ross or Wright would be the starter at small forward. Humphries is not player I would want to commit Monet too if we're going so young

[KrazySixersD]

Krazy, you clearly hate Henson or UNC or something. Did Henson murder your family? I'm not sure why you are getting up in flames about this.

I'm not advocating drafting him OVER Drummond. I'm saying if the Sixers trade up for him I won't be upset.

But to be honest, I could easily see him becoming the 2nd best player in this draft.

you are a unc homer... like a few others on this board... it completely clouds ur judgement...

i dont hate unc or henson at all

i just hate if the sixers draft some scrub after trading up in the draft and passing on 2 guys who can be really freaking good in the nba and are both younger than henson

if henson was coming out as a freshman, that would be one thing... this guy is a junior... he is no where near where a junior with his lenght should be at this point in his career

[Gsraider]

Krazy, I'm not bashing DX at all because it's a great site and one of the best around. It's not the only source of evaluation though and the guys who scout these players for a living, will often have broken down every game of every player's college career (some HS too). They will have talked to coaches, teammates, family, etc. to form a much more thorough evaluation that most of us can possibly piece together because we don't have as much access to that information as they do.

Does that mean you will be wrong on Henson? Absolutely not. You could be spot on. However, these guys often get fired or move up in their careers based on the success rate of their picks, so a lot more is riding on how they pan out. In the end, Henson may wind up being a bad pick, but I doubt it will be an uninformed one.

[sixerfan1976]

Jefferson cannot be amnestied if traded for. He can be bought out tho which they wouldnt do til next year hypothetically

[Tension]

Krazy, you clearly hate Henson or UNC or something. Did Henson murder your family? I'm not sure why you are getting up in flames about this.

I'm not advocating drafting him OVER Drummond. I'm saying if the Sixers trade up for him I won't be upset.

But to be honest, I could easily see him becoming the 2nd best player in this draft.

you are a unc homer... like a few others on this board... it completely clouds ur judgement...

i dont hate unc or henson at all

i just hate if the sixers draft some scrub after trading up in the draft and passing on 2 guys who can be really freaking good in the nba and are both younger than henson

if henson was coming out as a freshman, that would be one thing... this guy is a junior... he is no where near where a junior with his lenght should be at this point in his career

you of all people shouldn't be judging people on being a 'homer' 'biased' etc.

[KrazySixersD]

Id resign Lou if we trade Iggy to GSW. Not enough scoring in that lineup IMO

fair point. I could see Rivers being a better fit than Ross if we obtain two SF in jefferson and wright too.

Jrue/Lou
Turner/Rivers/Silas
Jefferson/Wright
Humphries/Thad/Henson
Lavoy/Nik

I think Jefferson is bought out or traded the following season as an expiring contract. He could end up just being another Nocioni to our franchise. So I'm thinking that Ross or Wright would be the starter at small forward. Humphries is not player I would want to commit Monet too if we're going so young

if we draft a guy at 7 and then have him 3rd on the depth chart im going to be even more pissed

ross is not an nba SF... hes a SG

[KrazySixersD]

Krazy, you clearly hate Henson or UNC or something. Did Henson murder your family? I'm not sure why you are getting up in flames about this.

I'm not advocating drafting him OVER Drummond. I'm saying if the Sixers trade up for him I won't be upset.

But to be honest, I could easily see him becoming the 2nd best player in this draft.

you are a unc homer... like a few others on this board... it completely clouds ur judgement...

i dont hate unc or henson at all

i just hate if the sixers draft some scrub after trading up in the draft and passing on 2 guys who can be really freaking good in the nba and are both younger than henson

if henson was coming out as a freshman, that would be one thing... this guy is a junior... he is no where near where a junior with his lenght should be at this point in his career

you of all people shouldn't be judging people on being a 'homer' 'biased' etc.

why? being a fanatic about my team and being a homer are 2 diff things... never do i go around saying the players on this team are better than they are... im one of the people on here who are usually calling people out for saying iguodala is too good for any trade in the nba...

i may get way too into it... but i sure as hell aint no homer

[F-Stop]

I don't have a problem saying it. I hate UNC. I like more than a few college programs none moreso than Duke. I have no faith in UNC bigs since they haven't trained one correctly since Brad Dougherty. Sheed didn't learn much there.

However, there have been a few good players that have come from that program recently and I believe Kendall Marshall will be next. If we move up to 7-8 and Drummond is gone we need to go after Marshall. besides Sulliger - Drummond there is nobody avail that can be of immediate help to the 6ers. With Collins win now attitude the only rookies that would probably get a nice portion of minutes would be Drummond - Sullinger - Marshall.. Drummond for his skill-set. Sullinger as Brand's replacement.. Marshall for his skill-set. The rest of the picks would linger behind a developing Turner Jrue @ Meeks..