Official Bryan Colangelo thread (for Hinkie talk, use the Hinkie thread)

[Ericb5]

Everyone knows that we have a redundancy at that spot, and are going to have to trade one of them, if not two of them.

I don't believe in the idea that teams will offer less if they know that we are planning on trading someone. The trade offers still have to beat everyone else in the league. This isn't a situation where we can only deal with a few teams.


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[ET Da Gawd]

smdh, Bryan gonna be gifting bigs throughout the league lmaoo

[Unbreakable99]

Saying this publicly basically lowers the type of offers you are going to receive. Jesus Christ. I can't deal with this.

Disagree. BC doesn't have to trade any of them. If he doesn't get a fair trade offer he can just keep them. Other teams already know we can't keep all three. It's better to try to trade now than to let them play together and not playing well together confirming they can't coexist and then getting squeezed even more since teams see one will definitely go. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know we can't keep all three. Saying it publicly isn't doing any harm in my opinion. Haven't we all already thought this already?

If other GMs feel the Sixers HAVE to move one, then you will get lowball offers no question about it. We still don't know if Embiid will be able to play consistently or at a high level yet. Until that day comes, no you actually don't have to move one of them. So saying that publicly is just dumb. There is no reason for it.

And that's why I said if he gets lowballed then he just keeps them. He doesn't have to trade anyone yet although it would be best to move one now.

[Unbreakable99]

smdh, Bryan gonna be gifting bigs throughout the league lmaoo

But we should get good return if he trades one or both. No one thinks we can keep all three. It's not practical. One should be gone by draft day. That would help. And when I say one I'm not talking about Embiid.

[Eyeamok]

There it is. Okafor is outta here. I like the move. We can't keep all 3. Okafor will give us the most return. I can't hate this move nor should anyone else.

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I liked this team so much better when we played all our cards close to the vest.

Yes other teams know what we have and what we need, but this is like having a chatty girlfriend that just chats and chats, somethings just don't need to be said. There is truth in the adage that silence is golden, especially in matters of negotiations. Usually the first person to mention money or assets loses.

Good Job BC....it's not even a month yet and I'm yearning for the good old days when the only deals you heard about where the deals that were actually made.

I want to give BC the benefit of the doubt but I feel it is a race to the middle for this team. But I would be happy to be proven wrong.

[Unbreakable99]

There it is. Okafor is outta here. I like the move. We can't keep all 3. Okafor will give us the most return. I can't hate this move nor should anyone else.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/mikegillshow/status/723216718256959488[/tweet]

I liked this team so much better when we played all our cards close to the vest.

Yes other teams know what we have and what we need, but this is like having a chatty girlfriend that just chats and chats, somethings just don't need to be said. There is truth in the adage that silence is golden, especially in matters of negotiations. Usually the first person to mention money or assets loses.

Good Job BC....it's not even a month yet and I'm yearning for the good old days when the only deals you heard about where the deals that were actually made.

I want to give BC the benefit of the doubt but I feel it is a race to the middle for this team. But I would be happy to be proven wrong.

Yeah I liked how Hinkie didn't talk either but this about the 3 Centers is pretty obvious.

[Ericb5]

smdh, Bryan gonna be gifting bigs throughout the league lmaoo

But we should get good return if he trades one or both. No one thinks we can keep all three. It's not practical. One should be gone by draft day. That would help. And when I say one I'm not talking about Embiid.

I would bet that one of them will be traded by the trade deadline next season, but it doesn't need to be by draft day.

I mean we really only have 2 guys right now until Embiid shows himself to be healthy, and that won't be proven by the draft.

If we get a great offer that we can't resist then sure, but we can hold out without any real downside.



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[Att]

There it is. Okafor is outta here. I like the move. We can't keep all 3. Okafor will give us the most return. I can't hate this move nor should anyone else.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/mikegillshow/status/723216718256959488[/tweet]

I liked this team so much better when we played all our cards close to the vest.

Yes other teams know what we have and what we need, but this is like having a chatty girlfriend that just chats and chats, somethings just don't need to be said. There is truth in the adage that silence is golden, especially in matters of negotiations. Usually the first person to mention money or assets loses.

Good Job BC....it's not even a month yet and I'm yearning for the good old days when the only deals you heard about where the deals that were actually made.

I want to give BC the benefit of the doubt but I feel it is a race to the middle for this team. But I would be happy to be proven wrong.

Yeah I liked how Hinkie didn't talk either but this about the 3 Centers is pretty obvious.

Timing matters in deals. It's obvious we have to trade 1 of the 2 but it's not so obvious when that happens and what sort of motivation we have. Now it is.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

Gee, where does it say Okafor will be traded?

[ET Da Gawd]

*sighs*


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[Eyeamok]

Actually we don't even have a redundancy at the center position.

Embiid has yet to play and when he does he will be on minutes restriction. So there will be plenty of opportunity for all of our centers and PF to play.

Let's just make it through a healthy season before you go talking about redundancy BC. Showcase your talent first. But I fear he wants to become a darling with the press. From all indications he ex cells at the PR part of being in the front office.

He has big shoes to fill. And if he can't dazzle the masses with actual deals he can always be a media darling.

[CoreyGallagher]

I want to give BC the benefit of the doubt but I feel it is a race to the middle for this team. But I would be happy to be proven wrong.

That's what I fear as well - BC not doing his due diligence and taking shortcuts. Oh well.

[Ericb5]

Actually we don't even have a redundancy at the center position.

Embiid has yet to play and when he does he will be on minutes restriction. So there will be plenty of opportunity for all of our centers and PF to play.

Let's just make it through a healthy season before you go talking about redundancy BC. Showcase your talent first. But I fear he wants to become a darling with the press. From all indications he ex cells at the PR part of being in the front office.

He has big shoes to fill. And if he can't dazzle the masses with actual deals he can always be a media darling.

I agree. We should have a bias towards holding off on trading any of our bigs unless we get a great trade. The point is that we aren't up against a wall right now. We CAN wait.


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[sixers23]

Bodner had him on his podcast posted this morning

[rzzzzz]

Bodner had him on his podcast posted this morning

listened to it last night. Derek didn't probe, and Bryan was a little verbose. but he did acknowledge that 'biid could be the answer and that Saric looks like a great complement.

[PhilasFinest]

Actually we don't even have a redundancy at the center position.

Embiid has yet to play and when he does he will be on minutes restriction. So there will be plenty of opportunity for all of our centers and PF to play.

Let's just make it through a healthy season before you go talking about redundancy BC. Showcase your talent first. But I fear he wants to become a darling with the press. From all indications he ex cells at the PR part of being in the front office.

He has big shoes to fill. And if he can't dazzle the masses with actual deals he can always be a media darling.

Embiid n Noel are kinda redundant. They are both 5's and can't playing together.

[dbodner]

Bodner had him on his podcast posted this morning

listened to it last night. Derek didn't probe, and Bryan was a little verbose. but he did acknowledge that 'biid could be the answer and that Saric looks like a great complement.

I didn't probe. I actually found out earlier in the day I only had Bryan fora bout 10 minutes, so I wanted to get to as many topics as possible, and follow ups would have killed that. I would have gotten to, like, 1 topic. We still ended up going 30 minutes anyway. I'm not really happy with how it turned out, but that was my reasoning for not probing, fwiw.

[sixers23]

Bodner had him on his podcast posted this morning

listened to it last night. Derek didn't probe, and Bryan was a little verbose. but he did acknowledge that 'biid could be the answer and that Saric looks like a great complement.

I didn't probe. I actually found out earlier in the day I only had Bryan fora bout 10 minutes, so I wanted to get to as many topics as possible, and follow ups would have killed that. I would have gotten to, like, 1 topic. We still ended up going 30 minutes anyway. I'm not really happy with how it turned out, but that was my reasoning for not probing, fwiw.

nothing he said really worried me at least. He is tough to read. The parts about balancing the team with vets & stuff its hard to tell whether he means smart signings or he will end up giving out bad contracts like in Toronto.

[the_process]

There it is. Okafor is outta here. I like the move. We can't keep all 3. Okafor will give us the most return. I can't hate this move nor should anyone else.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/mikegillshow/status/723216718256959488[/tweet]

I liked this team so much better when we played all our cards close to the vest.

Yes other teams know what we have and what we need, but this is like having a chatty girlfriend that just chats and chats, somethings just don't need to be said. There is truth in the adage that silence is golden, especially in matters of negotiations. Usually the first person to mention money or assets loses.

Good Job BC....it's not even a month yet and I'm yearning for the good old days when the only deals you heard about where the deals that were actually made.

I want to give BC the benefit of the doubt but I feel it is a race to the middle for this team. But I would be happy to be proven wrong.

I completely agree with you, but let's be honest about this. Bryan stays quiet and doesn't feed stories (and reporters), then they all write bad stuff about him. Then casual fans pop up on chat boards and in comments sections ripping on Bryan. Next thing we know, agents start leaking they don't like the guy; so the league office intervenes and tells you to hire some old retread from across the country to be your new "advisor". The "advisor" doesn't come to your city to "help", no... he works from his living room in, let's say, Phoenix. Then the "advisor" hires his son to be your new GM. It's a vicious cycle.

[Ericb5]

listened to it last night. Derek didn't probe, and Bryan was a little verbose. but he did acknowledge that 'biid could be the answer and that Saric looks like a great complement.

I didn't probe. I actually found out earlier in the day I only had Bryan fora bout 10 minutes, so I wanted to get to as many topics as possible, and follow ups would have killed that. I would have gotten to, like, 1 topic. We still ended up going 30 minutes anyway. I'm not really happy with how it turned out, but that was my reasoning for not probing, fwiw.

nothing he said really worried me at least. He is tough to read. The parts about balancing the team with vets & stuff its hard to tell whether he means smart signings or he will end up giving out bad contracts like in Toronto.

The risk is whether or not he knows the difference.

There are plenty of signings that could make sense once we have our core, that make no sense if we don't.

My feelings on him as an evaluator of talent are that maybe he can be as good as Hinkie. The talent evaluation department isn't where my fears are, or even where I felt that Hinkie's strengths were, even though I do think that was an area of strength with Hinkie.

My fear is that his philosophy is wrong, and that he will chase the shiny object to get to the playoffs, and then feel as if he accomplished by something.

I admit that this is a pure fear of mine, and I shouldn't assume that this is what he will do. The problem is that history shows that that is what most conventional gm's do, and that he is a conventional GM.

Conventional GM's can win if they have great players, but what do they do if they don't have great players yet? Their careers are obviously more important to them than the success of the franchise is to the fans. If they are the GM of a team for five years that makes the playoffs every year then they will have no problems getting another job. WE are the ones that are left waiting for someone to actually go for the whole thing.

He would probably see a team like the current Hawks or Raptors as a success, and we are tired of not contending for real.






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