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Re: Jeff Teague for Nerlens Noel discussed, not imminent 

Post#281 » by 76ciology » Fri Jun 3, 2016 5:08 am

For the 1st pick in the 2016 draft..

The Sixers selects..

Dragan Bender

BC: Dragan Bender reminds me of Bargnani. A 7' who can move and shoot like a guard. He's the next Dirk Nowitzki.
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Post#282 » by Hoops23 » Fri Jun 3, 2016 5:11 am

It will be a big gamble for Philly to trade Noel for Teague because he's going to be a unrestricted free agent in 2017. To be safe, if Philly wants JT, they better ask him 1st for a contract extension before making the deal. Otherwise, its like Teague for a 1-yr rental in expense of Noel.
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Re: Jeff Teague for Nerlens Noel discussed, not imminent 

Post#283 » by tk76 » Fri Jun 3, 2016 5:12 am

New Big 3.

Embiid.... Simmons...and Jeff Teague? One of these names is not like the others.

Spoiler:
Only one is an NBA All-Star :)
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Re: Jeff Teague for Nerlens Noel discussed, not imminent 

Post#284 » by Skates » Fri Jun 3, 2016 5:38 am

tk76 wrote:New Big 3.

Embiid.... Simmons...and Jeff Teague? One of these names is not like the others.

Spoiler:
Only one is an NBA All-Star :)


I think you mean 'was'.
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Re: Jeff Teague for Nerlens Noel discussed, not imminent 

Post#285 » by deep6er » Fri Jun 3, 2016 5:40 am

You all are so dramatic. Noel for Teague actually seems pretty fair value wise.

There are reasons I wouldn't do the trade, mostly I think Teague is too old for our core and don't like that he becomes an unrestricted free agent at the end of next year, but this rumor shouldn't be sending anyone off on a 'BC is an idiot who is dead set on destroying the Sixers' rant.

It's a discussion, not a trade. Relax, pop a bar if you need to, and wait to see how this plays out. If we do end up trading both Nerlens and RoCo for Teague, I will be first in line to buy a pitchfork, but there will be plenty of time to take sides once a move has actually been made.
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Re: Jeff Teague for Nerlens Noel discussed, not imminent 

Post#286 » by tk76 » Fri Jun 3, 2016 5:45 am

Skates wrote:
tk76 wrote:New Big 3.

Embiid.... Simmons...and Jeff Teague? One of these names is not like the others.

Spoiler:
Only one is an NBA All-Star :)


I think you mean 'was'.


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Post#287 » by Hoops23 » Fri Jun 3, 2016 5:50 am

deep6er wrote:You all are so dramatic. Noel for Teague actually seems pretty fair value wise.

There are reasons I wouldn't do the trade, mostly I think Teague is too old for our core and don't like that he becomes an unrestricted free agent at the end of next year, but this rumor shouldn't be sending anyone off on a 'BC is an idiot who is dead set on destroying the Sixers' rant.

It's a discussion, not a trade. Relax, pop a bar if you need to, and wait to see how this plays out. If we do end up trading both Nerlens and RoCo for Teague, I will be first in line to buy a pitchfork, but there will be plenty of time to take sides once a move has actually been made.

Pardon me with this one, but I dont think Philly will make the playoffs next season, then why add a PG like Teague who can easily leave your team in 2017? Then its like a 1-yr rental.
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Re: Jeff Teague for Nerlens Noel discussed, not imminent 

Post#288 » by drone3 » Fri Jun 3, 2016 6:06 am

Just keep Noel and sign Delly. Delly, Simmons and Brett Brown , Aussie power!
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Re: Jeff Teague for Nerlens Noel discussed, not imminent 

Post#289 » by timLH » Fri Jun 3, 2016 6:12 am

Come on BC, the best way to avoid making dumb trade is not to make any trade.

Just stick with the current core and use 24 and 26 for the best shooters left.

Then you play them together and see who is the odd man out next season. It is not that difficult, right?
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Re: Jeff Teague for Nerlens Noel discussed, not imminent 

Post#290 » by Sportfan73 » Fri Jun 3, 2016 6:16 am

This may just be a rumor to get Chicago to offer more. Rose, 14, McDermott sounds like a dream right now.
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Re: Jeff Teague for Nerlens Noel discussed, not imminent 

Post#291 » by Winejk » Fri Jun 3, 2016 6:26 am

Hoops23 wrote:Pardon me with this one, but I dont think Philly will make the playoffs next season, then why add a PG like Teague who can easily leave your team in 2017? Then its like a 1-yr rental.


As fans we have suffered through 3 seasons of putrid basketball. The all out tank is over. No more 10 win seasons. We have many pieces - #1 pick, a healthy Embiid, Saric probably coming over - that are coming together this upcoming season and it is time to move forward and progress. Part of the progress is to get a legitimate PG that can help Okafor, Embiid and presumably Simmons at least be competitive out on the floor. We have TJ McDonnel who is a nice backup, but that is it. We need a PG, and a SG for that matter, that can help the young guys develop. The PG and SG don't have to be permanent solutions because we have other picks (Lakers 1rst rounder, pick swap with Sacramento in 2017 and unprotected 1rst from Sacramento in 2018 not to mention our own picks) and tons of cap money to acquire permanent solutions. The feeling is we should have possibly 2 lottery picks in next year's draft that is apparently loaded with guards.

Teague's talents fit well with the Sixers on paper. We need to surround our young big guys with shooters. Shooters with some playmaking skill and decent defense would be ideal. Teague kind of ticks all the boxes, plus he's a veteran so he can hopefully be a good influence on the young guys and provide some leadership.

But just because we don't need permanent solutions at PG and SG right now, doesn't mean we are going to throw all our assets away for 1 year rentals. So while Teague would talent wise be a good fit, the hope is that we are not just going to give away Noel for only one year of Teague. I think Atlanta has to throw something more into the trade which is contrary to the rumor.
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Post#292 » by Sportfan73 » Fri Jun 3, 2016 6:29 am

Winejk wrote:
Hoops23 wrote:Pardon me with this one, but I dont think Philly will make the playoffs next season, then why add a PG like Teague who can easily leave your team in 2017? Then its like a 1-yr rental.


As fans we have suffered through 3 seasons of putrid basketball. The all out tank is over. No more 10 win seasons. We have many pieces - #1 pick, a healthy Embiid, Saric probably coming over - that are coming together this upcoming season and it is time to move forward and progress. Part of the progress is to get a legitimate PG that can help Okafor, Embiid and presumably Simmons at least be competitive out on the floor. We have TJ McDonnel who is a nice backup, but that is it. We need a PG, and a SG for that matter, that can help the young guys develop. The PG and SG don't have to be permanent solutions because we have other picks (Lakers 1rst rounder, pick swap with Sacramento in 2017 and unprotected 1rst from Sacramento in 2018 not to mention our own picks) and tons of cap money to acquire permanent solutions. The feeling is we should have possibly 2 lottery picks in next year's draft that is apparently loaded with guards.

Teague's talents fit well with the Sixers on paper. We need to surround our young big guys with shooters. Shooters with some playmaking skill and decent defense would be ideal. Teague kind of ticks all the boxes, plus he's a veteran so he can hopefully be a good influence on the young guys and provide some leadership.

But just because we don't need permanent solutions at PG and SG right now, doesn't mean we are going to throw all our assets away for 1 year rentals. So while Teague would talent wise be a good fit, the hope is that we are not just going to give away Noel for only one year of Teague. I think Atlanta has to throw something more into the trade which is contrary to the rumor.

I think we need 2 firsts. Also the only reason I see us doing this now is we want to make 2 max offers next offseason and then resign him with bird rights.
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Post#293 » by Hoops23 » Fri Jun 3, 2016 6:39 am

Winejk wrote:
Hoops23 wrote:Pardon me with this one, but I dont think Philly will make the playoffs next season, then why add a PG like Teague who can easily leave your team in 2017? Then its like a 1-yr rental.


As fans we have suffered through 3 seasons of putrid basketball. The all out tank is over. No more 10 win seasons. We have many pieces - #1 pick, a healthy Embiid, Saric probably coming over - that are coming together this upcoming season and it is time to move forward and progress. Part of the progress is to get a legitimate PG that can help Okafor, Embiid and presumably Simmons at least be competitive out on the floor. We have TJ McDonnel who is a nice backup, but that is it. We need a PG, and a SG for that matter, that can help the young guys develop. The PG and SG don't have to be permanent solutions because we have other picks (Lakers 1rst rounder, pick swap with Sacramento in 2017 and unprotected 1rst from Sacramento in 2018 not to mention our own picks) and tons of cap money to acquire permanent solutions. The feeling is we should have possibly 2 lottery picks in next year's draft that is apparently loaded with guards.

Teague's talents fit well with the Sixers on paper. We need to surround our young big guys with shooters. Shooters with some playmaking skill and decent defense would be ideal. Teague kind of ticks all the boxes, plus he's a veteran so he can hopefully be a good influence on the young guys and provide some leadership.

But just because we don't need permanent solutions at PG and SG right now, doesn't mean we are going to throw all our assets away for 1 year rentals. So while Teague would talent wise be a good fit, the hope is that we are not just going to give away Noel for only one year of Teague. I think Atlanta has to throw something more into the trade which is contrary to the rumor.

Its been a while since Philly made the playoffs. At your draft position, I doubt if there is PG ready to contribute and make an impact. No doubt if Philly ends up trading for a PG, considering also that it will be very hard to convince a veteran free agent PG to sign.

You mention Teague, but you guys haven't answer my question, that, are you OK for a 1-yr rental of Teague? I'm not making Nerlens Noel a high value player but I thought it will be a waste to trade him for Teague. Talent wise, Teague will help but his contract is the problem.
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Re: Jeff Teague for Nerlens Noel discussed, not imminent 

Post#294 » by 76ciology » Fri Jun 3, 2016 7:05 am

tk76 wrote:
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tk76 wrote:New Big 3.

Embiid.... Simmons...and Jeff Teague? One of these names is not like the others.

Spoiler:
Only one is an NBA All-Star :)


I think you mean 'was'.


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Post#295 » by 76ciology » Fri Jun 3, 2016 7:07 am

Don't look at now.

Look at end of next season.

It's easier to deal with Noel's contract than Teague's.

Teague is unrestricted and he doesn't fit our window even if we sign him. Although, I must admit it would be nice to watch Simmons or Ingram, Biid, Teague, Jah & Saric.
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Re: Jeff Teague for Nerlens Noel discussed, not imminent 

Post#296 » by spikeslovechild » Fri Jun 3, 2016 7:35 am

I'm glad it seems like we are inclined to move Noel. I'm disgusted with the return.

If this the the best offer we are better off keeping him until the draft and seeing how Dunn plus Murray play out. If we can't make a deal for them I'd still hold onto him you really have nothing to lose if Jeff Teague is your return. If plays well maybe you move him at the deadline for a first (or for even a couple like Denver did for Timmy). If not maybe someone offers you a sign a trade.

Even if none of those things happen you have his rights as RFA. Maybe, you sign him to a decent deal. The worst that can happen is he walks for nothing which you are almost guaranteed to happen with Teague in a year.

Comeon BC even you can do better then this.
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Post#297 » by cellar-door » Fri Jun 3, 2016 7:44 am

Hoops23 wrote:
deep6er wrote:You all are so dramatic. Noel for Teague actually seems pretty fair value wise.

There are reasons I wouldn't do the trade, mostly I think Teague is too old for our core and don't like that he becomes an unrestricted free agent at the end of next year, but this rumor shouldn't be sending anyone off on a 'BC is an idiot who is dead set on destroying the Sixers' rant.

It's a discussion, not a trade. Relax, pop a bar if you need to, and wait to see how this plays out. If we do end up trading both Nerlens and RoCo for Teague, I will be first in line to buy a pitchfork, but there will be plenty of time to take sides once a move has actually been made.

Pardon me with this one, but I dont think Philly will make the playoffs next season, then why add a PG like Teague who can easily leave your team in 2017? Then its like a 1-yr rental.


Noel is a free agent at the same time, and that basically forces a decision on big men now. At most 2 of Embiid, Noel, Okafor can be kept at bigger money (maybe only 1 if Simmons is going to play PF). Noel is up after the coming season, Embiid the next.

If internally they have Noel 3rd on their list it makes sense to move him now and hope to work out an extension for Teague. A

lso having a competent PG is essential to developing the young players, Ish Smith did a lot to help, but he's at best a backup level player.

So the thought process is get a pretty good PG, convince him to extend, and hope to become respectable so Free agents in 2017 will consider PHI an option. You can make a pretty quick rebuild around Okafor/Simmons/Saric/Teague/Embiid as a core with cap space and all the extra picks.
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Post#298 » by Hoops23 » Fri Jun 3, 2016 8:33 am

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Hoops23 wrote:
deep6er wrote:You all are so dramatic. Noel for Teague actually seems pretty fair value wise.

There are reasons I wouldn't do the trade, mostly I think Teague is too old for our core and don't like that he becomes an unrestricted free agent at the end of next year, but this rumor shouldn't be sending anyone off on a 'BC is an idiot who is dead set on destroying the Sixers' rant.

It's a discussion, not a trade. Relax, pop a bar if you need to, and wait to see how this plays out. If we do end up trading both Nerlens and RoCo for Teague, I will be first in line to buy a pitchfork, but there will be plenty of time to take sides once a move has actually been made.

Pardon me with this one, but I dont think Philly will make the playoffs next season, then why add a PG like Teague who can easily leave your team in 2017? Then its like a 1-yr rental.


Noel is a free agent at the same time, and that basically forces a decision on big men now. At most 2 of Embiid, Noel, Okafor can be kept at bigger money (maybe only 1 if Simmons is going to play PF). Noel is up after the coming season, Embiid the next.

If internally they have Noel 3rd on their list it makes sense to move him now and hope to work out an extension for Teague. A

lso having a competent PG is essential to developing the young players, Ish Smith did a lot to help, but he's at best a backup level player.

So the thought process is get a pretty good PG, convince him to extend, and hope to become respectable so Free agents in 2017 will consider PHI an option. You can make a pretty quick rebuild around Okafor/Simmons/Saric/Teague/Embiid as a core with cap space and all the extra picks.

with Philly's depth at the frontline position, I agree to move him for a need position, but my issue is, why for Teague? Jeff Teague is an unrestricted free agent and is 27 yr old by that time. For a player like him, he better go to a playoff team willing to pay him. And the rise in cap space, no doubt he will get his money. So getting Teague is a big risk. It will be better for Philly to trade Noel to a player that they can use for long term and help this team so dealing Noel will not come out a waste.
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Re: Jeff Teague for Nerlens Noel discussed, not imminent 

Post#299 » by Foshan » Fri Jun 3, 2016 9:00 am

I disagree that he needs to be moved *NOW* because of our depth or his contract. We can match anything he is offered next year and STILL have room to go after 2 big free agents, even if Noel is not our long term guy. We could then look to move him if that was what we wanted to do.

While his return in that sort of situation might not be 'the best' it sure can't be much worse than Teague.
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Re: Jeff Teague for Nerlens Noel discussed, not imminent 

Post#300 » by underpressure » Fri Jun 3, 2016 9:19 am

How about we reverse the draft day deal with the Pelicans and get back Holiday for Noel? :D Holiday would perfectly fit with our team and age-wise he could be still considered to be a part of our core. Too bad the Pels have no reason to trade Holiday.

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