The Legend of Joel Embiid

[Ericb5]

Some questions I think BC needs to address:

- Did he re-injure himself this summer?

- Following his surgery, BC said the tear was much smaller than expected and they were optimistic about him making a full recovery this summer. Why such a long length of recovery for such a routine injury?

- Shouldn't the medical team's strategy be called into question at this juncture? They've failed to prevent injuries (pretty sure the whole roster tore their Meniscus within the last two seasons), recovery times have been abnormally long (Simmons, Okafor, Embiid), and the cautious approach we've taken with Embiid has produced zero results to support their vision for his long term health.

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1. They said he didn't experience any setbacks.

2. They're opting for a super conservative rehab, with the goal for him to have a long and healthy career. It's not just about healing his knee, it's about his entire body being ready for a NBA season.

3. I think they did. They hired dr. Medina from FC Barcelona and one of the reasons the answer is this vague is Medina needs to process all the data and come up with a detailed plan for Embiid. Such things don't happen overnight.

Now the crucial question if we can believe anything BC says, history indicates we can't, so all these answers might not matter.

These answers just beg more questions though. He last played a game 9 months ago, they shut him down 8 months ago, he had surgery 6 months ago. How the heck does even a "super conservative rehab" of a partially torn meniscus take that long?

Same thing with Medina. Why did they wait until 2 weeks before camp to bring someone in?

The issue is less with them being conservative (which is fine) and more if they are hiding something (Which wouldn't be the first time). Could be a setback, could be a contract thing, who knows.

It just seems like Colangelo is doing his thing where he gets asked a question and he just throws some word vomit back at the reporter until time runs out.

That’s one of the core problems of Colangelo. He is a used car salesman who thinks that he can talk himself out of trouble.

Of course the media ask dumb questions too. They need to ask questions that only can be answered as yes, no or I refuse to answer. The question should be, “ is there any physical indication that Embiid is not 100% healthy, such as swelling, pain, or any decreased function at all?”

I guarantee that Colangelo doesn’t want to answer that question because if the answer is No then there is zero reason to equivocate on his full participation in camp. If the answer is yes, then it destroys his whole narrative of there being nothing wrong and they are just being cautious.

If he refuses to answer then he is deliberately hiding things from us.

Questions like “is he going to have a minutes restriciton, or when will he be a full participant?” Are questions that are easy to answer with BS. No decisions have been made, we hope to have an answer soon...


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[Jstock12]

I'd take Giannis over Embiid, easy.

For one healthy game? That's up to you, but excuse Sixers' fans for disagreeing as we already saw Embiid lead us to victory against Giannis when he was playing well himself.

For one game, the decision is tougher. Both are pretty dominant and very young. Giannis is even younger. Embiid is elite on both ends, while Giannis has a glaring weakness on the offensive side - his jumpshot. The thing that makes me lean towards Giannis is his playmaking ability. Basically, if I had to build a team from scratch I would take Giannis, but for a roster like Sixers (Simmons, Fultz, Saric) Embiid does make more sense.

[cksdayoff]

boggles the mind how you wouldnt take the dominant center for one game

[Jstock12]

boggles the mind how you wouldnt take the dominant center for one game

I know it's an unpopular take on the Sixers board. I'm sure the Bucks fans on their board wouldn't hesitate to pick Giannis. But for me, someone who's neither a Sixers nor a Bucks fan, the decision is quite tough. It would come down to the roster, matchups etc. Definitely not a slam-dunk decision either way.

[Mrcrockpots]

boggles the mind how you wouldnt take the dominant center for one game

I know it's an unpopular take on the Sixers board. I'm sure the Bucks fans on their board wouldn't hesitate to pick Giannis. But for me, someone who's neither a Sixers nor a Bucks fan, the decision is quite tough. It would come down to the roster, matchups etc. Definitely not a slam-dunk decision either way.

Definitely would take Embiid over Giannis. Didn't we beat the Bucks in January without Embiid last year?

[Sixerscan]

FWIW (sss) the Sixers were better with Embiid on the court than the Bucks were with Giannis on the court last year.

[76ciology]

My take. I think its fair from Biid's side to ask for the contract, since Biid is also risking his health. But I do think this also shows the lack of confidence we have on Embiid's health

[Kolkmania]

Some questions I think BC needs to address:

- Did he re-injure himself this summer?

- Following his surgery, BC said the tear was much smaller than expected and they were optimistic about him making a full recovery this summer. Why such a long length of recovery for such a routine injury?

- Shouldn't the medical team's strategy be called into question at this juncture? They've failed to prevent injuries (pretty sure the whole roster tore their Meniscus within the last two seasons), recovery times have been abnormally long (Simmons, Okafor, Embiid), and the cautious approach we've taken with Embiid has produced zero results to support their vision for his long term health.

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1. They said he didn't experience any setbacks.

2. They're opting for a super conservative rehab, with the goal for him to have a long and healthy career. It's not just about healing his knee, it's about his entire body being ready for a NBA season.

3. I think they did. They hired dr. Medina from FC Barcelona and one of the reasons the answer is this vague is Medina needs to process all the data and come up with a detailed plan for Embiid. Such things don't happen overnight.

Now the crucial question if we can believe anything BC says, history indicates we can't, so all these answers might not matter.

These answers just beg more questions though. He last played a game 9 months ago, they shut him down 8 months ago, he had surgery 6 months ago. How the heck does even a "super conservative rehab" of a partially torn meniscus take that long?

Same thing with Medina. Why did they wait until 2 weeks before camp to bring someone in?

The issue is less with them being conservative (which is fine) and more if they are hiding something (Which wouldn't be the first time). Could be a setback, could be a contract thing, who knows.

It just seems like Colangelo is doing his thing where he gets asked a question and he just throws some word vomit back at the reporter until time runs out.

I absolutely agree with everybody here that the whole situation is once again super sketchy.

It's ridiculous how BC treats the fanbase as little children and expects us to swallow all the things he throws around there. With the fake 1st round pick for Noel as the most glaring example.

[Kolkmania]

1. They said he didn't experience any setbacks.

2. They're opting for a super conservative rehab, with the goal for him to have a long and healthy career. It's not just about healing his knee, it's about his entire body being ready for a NBA season.

3. I think they did. They hired dr. Medina from FC Barcelona and one of the reasons the answer is this vague is Medina needs to process all the data and come up with a detailed plan for Embiid. Such things don't happen overnight.

Now the crucial question if we can believe anything BC says, history indicates we can't, so all these answers might not matter.

These answers just beg more questions though. He last played a game 9 months ago, they shut him down 8 months ago, he had surgery 6 months ago. How the heck does even a "super conservative rehab" of a partially torn meniscus take that long?

Same thing with Medina. Why did they wait until 2 weeks before camp to bring someone in?

The issue is less with them being conservative (which is fine) and more if they are hiding something (Which wouldn't be the first time). Could be a setback, could be a contract thing, who knows.

It just seems like Colangelo is doing his thing where he gets asked a question and he just throws some word vomit back at the reporter until time runs out.

That’s one of the core problems of Colangelo. He is a used car salesman who thinks that he can talk himself out of trouble.

Of course the media ask dumb questions too. They need to ask questions that only can be answered as yes, no or I refuse to answer. The question should be, “ is there any physical indication that Embiid is not 100% healthy, such as swelling, pain, or any decreased function at all?”

I guarantee that Colangelo doesn’t want to answer that question because if the answer is No then there is zero reason to equivocate on his full participation in camp. If the answer is yes, then it destroys his whole narrative of there being nothing wrong and they are just being cautious.

If he refuses to answer then he is deliberately hiding things from us.

Questions like “is he going to have a minutes restriciton, or when will he be a full participant?” Are questions that are easy to answer with BS. No decisions have been made, we hope to have an answer soon...


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"He's not 100% ready yet, he did not suffer a setback during his rehab, but we're being hyper-conservative.

We expect Embiid on the court, it is not a question whether he'll play in the opening game. The question is how much, how little or if at all."

-Bryan Colangelo

[bedjawII]

boggles the mind how you wouldnt take the dominant center for one game

I know it's an unpopular take on the Sixers board. I'm sure the Bucks fans on their board wouldn't hesitate to pick Giannis. But for me, someone who's neither a Sixers nor a Bucks fan, the decision is quite tough. It would come down to the roster, matchups etc. Definitely not a slam-dunk decision either way.

The point you get from this board is Giannias and Jo are legit #1 options. Match-ups are irrelevant for other teams have to match up against them. Rosters are constructed around both players so it's not a factor either. If health isn't a factor Jo has proven to be more impactful

[Ericb5]

These answers just beg more questions though. He last played a game 9 months ago, they shut him down 8 months ago, he had surgery 6 months ago. How the heck does even a "super conservative rehab" of a partially torn meniscus take that long?

Same thing with Medina. Why did they wait until 2 weeks before camp to bring someone in?

The issue is less with them being conservative (which is fine) and more if they are hiding something (Which wouldn't be the first time). Could be a setback, could be a contract thing, who knows.

It just seems like Colangelo is doing his thing where he gets asked a question and he just throws some word vomit back at the reporter until time runs out.

That’s one of the core problems of Colangelo. He is a used car salesman who thinks that he can talk himself out of trouble.

Of course the media ask dumb questions too. They need to ask questions that only can be answered as yes, no or I refuse to answer. The question should be, “ is there any physical indication that Embiid is not 100% healthy, such as swelling, pain, or any decreased function at all?”

I guarantee that Colangelo doesn’t want to answer that question because if the answer is No then there is zero reason to equivocate on his full participation in camp. If the answer is yes, then it destroys his whole narrative of there being nothing wrong and they are just being cautious.

If he refuses to answer then he is deliberately hiding things from us.

Questions like “is he going to have a minutes restriciton, or when will he be a full participant?” Are questions that are easy to answer with BS. No decisions have been made, we hope to have an answer soon...


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"He's not 100% ready yet, he did not suffer a setback during his rehab, but we're being hyper-conservative.

We expect Embiid on the court, it is not a question whether he'll play in the opening game. The question is how much, how little or if at all."

-Bryan Colangelo

That's a non answer. 100% ready can be defined as "having received the blessing of the doctors". The question is whether there are any physical indicators of injury such as pain, swelling, inflammation, decreased mobility, etc... That is a yes or no question.

If he says that he doesn't know, then the immediate follow up is to ask who DOES know, and when he will provide that information?

Don't let him hide in the shadows of his BS. The media lets him get away with it.

[ankle420breaker]

The timing of the Medina hiring is curious. I'd like to think of this as an indicator that the existing medical staff is under a more powerful microscope and that additional personnel moves will be forthcoming.

Considering BC said the tear was relatively minor following the procedure and not as severe as originally thought, the "hyper-conservative" argument doesn't hold much ground. Clearly somethings off being that we're 6 months removed from the surgery. I think there's an obvious argument to be made that a healthier approach would be to ease him through training camp and preseason to ensure that he's moving more decisively once the regular season starts. I'd imagine the Sixers brass would concur if he were actually healthy.

This is eerily similar to Okafor's situation with regards to our medical staff's record breaking recovery times.

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[ivysixer2000]

Well I do believe it has something to do with the Medina hire. Our medical staff has sucked for a long time, and I would like for his opinion to be heard in that room myself before we do something else stupid with our players.

Not like we have a game tomorrow, BC is just talking jibberish til he gets that guy's opinion. I don't have a problem with that, its just funny to hear BC try the massive cover up. All BC has to say is he is letting Medina look at everything cause we've had a bunch of idiots as medical staff, then they will move forward.

Course he is trying the 007 cover up instead, funny.

[Sixerscan]

Well I do believe it has something to do with the Medina hire. Our medical staff has sucked for a long time, and I would like for his opinion to be heard in that room myself before we do something else stupid with our players.

Not like we have a game tomorrow, BC is just talking jibberish til he gets that guy's opinion. I don't have a problem with that, its just funny to hear BC try the massive cover up. All BC has to say is he is letting Medina look at everything cause we've had a bunch of idiots as medical staff, then they will move forward.

Course he is trying the 007 cover up instead, funny.

Well there's still the question of why they didn't bring someone in until September 15. As you said, there's been issues for a long time.

Maybe he couldn't join them until that. Would be nice if someone asked/Colangelo gave a non mumbo jumbo answer.

[FlightBrothers]

My gut tells me this is contract related as he switched to a new agent not too long ago

[GabeCerebro]

I think we can all agree that something is up and that we're being creatively lied to. I don't buy the "it's contract related" angle personally.

[Eyeamok]

These answers just beg more questions though. He last played a game 9 months ago, they shut him down 8 months ago, he had surgery 6 months ago. How the heck does even a "super conservative rehab" of a partially torn meniscus take that long?

Same thing with Medina. Why did they wait until 2 weeks before camp to bring someone in?

The issue is less with them being conservative (which is fine) and more if they are hiding something (Which wouldn't be the first time). Could be a setback, could be a contract thing, who knows.

It just seems like Colangelo is doing his thing where he gets asked a question and he just throws some word vomit back at the reporter until time runs out.

That’s one of the core problems of Colangelo. He is a used car salesman who thinks that he can talk himself out of trouble.

Of course the media ask dumb questions too. They need to ask questions that only can be answered as yes, no or I refuse to answer. The question should be, “ is there any physical indication that Embiid is not 100% healthy, such as swelling, pain, or any decreased function at all?”

I guarantee that Colangelo doesn’t want to answer that question because if the answer is No then there is zero reason to equivocate on his full participation in camp. If the answer is yes, then it destroys his whole narrative of there being nothing wrong and they are just being cautious.

If he refuses to answer then he is deliberately hiding things from us.

Questions like “is he going to have a minutes restriciton, or when will he be a full participant?” Are questions that are easy to answer with BS. No decisions have been made, we hope to have an answer soon...


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"He's not 100% ready yet, he did not suffer a setback during his rehab, but we're being hyper-conservative.

We expect Embiid on the court, it is not a question whether he'll play in the opening game. The question is how much, how little or if at all."

-Bryan Colangelo

Which means we have sold more season tickets that we anticipated. Let's get the news out that we are going to be ultra conservative with Embiid, so all you tickets holders many not see him in action.

And this is why Embiid deserves the Max, the 76ers have made a killing of him and Simmons already,by holding back information.

[ivysixer2000]

Well I do believe it has something to do with the Medina hire. Our medical staff has sucked for a long time, and I would like for his opinion to be heard in that room myself before we do something else stupid with our players.

Not like we have a game tomorrow, BC is just talking jibberish til he gets that guy's opinion. I don't have a problem with that, its just funny to hear BC try the massive cover up. All BC has to say is he is letting Medina look at everything cause we've had a bunch of idiots as medical staff, then they will move forward.

Course he is trying the 007 cover up instead, funny.

Well there's still the question of why they didn't bring someone in until September 15. As you said, there's been issues for a long time.

Maybe he couldn't join them until that. Would be nice if someone asked/Colangelo gave a non mumbo jumbo answer.

I agree with you, maybe he just couldn't leave, who knows but I'm glad Medina's here now. Not like he was leaving a bad job, so it probably was on his terms on when he could come to Philly.

The contract thing is scary though, but I just don't believe thats the holdup with Embiid. Really, if it was that, I don't think Embiid would even show up at the facility or talk Sixers......after all, that's what a hold out is to me.

[CoreyGallagher]

I think we can all agree that something is up and that we're being creatively lied to. I don't buy the "it's contract related" angle personally.

The only person that has reported that it could be contract related is Eskin. The fact that the report seemed to come out of nowhere, and then with the comments about his extension yesterday considering everything else they said sort of makes me believe that it could be true.

[LongLiveHinkie]

If there is something going on with his knee/health, then why would the Sixers be trying to sign him to a long-term extension? It wouldn't make any sense. Wouldn't they wanna wait to see if he healed up first?

Tells me this very well might be contract related. If he had a knee setback, they wouldn't be aggressively trying to get him signed, I'll tell you that much.