The Ben Simmons Megathread - Part IV

[Stonk]

Passing to a double teamed Embiid instead of taking a wide open 8 foot floater was embarrassing. All in all decent game from Ben. Better than usual when Embiid plays.

Embiid is always double teamed down low. You want him to never pass to him?

[XtremeDunkz]

Passing to a double teamed Embiid instead of taking a wide open 8 foot floater was embarrassing. All in all decent game from Ben. Better than usual when Embiid plays.

Embiid is always double teamed down low. You want him to never pass to him?

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[Foshan]

Passing to a double teamed Embiid instead of taking a wide open 8 foot floater was embarrassing. All in all decent game from Ben. Better than usual when Embiid plays.

Embiid is always double teamed down low. You want him to never pass to him?

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[51X3RF4N]

Typically the double team comes after Embiid has the ball.

Passing to a man who already has 2 guys within arms reach of him is never ideal.

Most, if not all, NBA guards and forwards would identify that situation, see that there is an easy 8 foot shot they could take instead, and take it.

Ben doesn't do those things, he tries to force bad passes rather than take an easy open jump shot. Every time. And it can be frustrating to watch when he is so good at so many aspects of this game, for him to not be comfortable just pulling up and making the smart play.

Those kinds of limitations are what kill playoff teams. Turnovers because you jumped in the air, turned around and tried to pass it while the defense knows exactly what you are doing, turnovers because nobody is open and you don't want to shoot a jump shot so you force a pass to someone who's being fronted or denied. Missed offensive opportunities because you aren't comfortable rising up to shoot the ball when wide open, so the defense just sags into the lane and makes it 10x harder to score each possession, in the playoffs.

All these things are why fans are unhappy with Ben, particularly when he plays PG with 2 other bigs on the floor.

Which is a Brett issue to figure out. But also a Ben issue because if your 5 best players happen to be 2 big men, 2 wings, and Ben Simmons, then you want to play your 5 best players.

So, Ben needs to figure out how to be comfortable shooting the ball within the next half of the season, or else the playoffs are going to be really hard to watch.

Passing to a double teamed Embiid instead of taking a wide open 8 foot floater was embarrassing. All in all decent game from Ben. Better than usual when Embiid plays.

Embiid is always double teamed down low. You want him to never pass to him?

[Mik317]

the play ended with Embiid getting to the line...so it wasn't all bad.

Ben had a solid game overall. It was a wonky start effort wise but he turned it on in the second half (for once lololololol).

They went back to him bringing the ball up everytime again and it made the offense stagnate more than it had been with others initiating the offense.

[Chris76]

Simmons seems to hate midrange jumpers. It could be analytics where a 3 (another teammate) is a better shot that him shooting a 2.

Hopefully, he realizes that his midrange game can be a good and necessary shot, too.

[agiaco]

Simmons seems to hate midrange jumpers. It could be analytics where a 3 (another teammate) is a better shot that him shooting a 2.

Hopefully, he realizes that his midrange game can be a good and necessary shot, too.

I generally hate mid range now too unless you're a guy who thrives off of it like JRich for instance. Ben's bread and butter is around the hoop. If he's not improving his three ball, I just want him taking shots down low and not halfway in between.

[Trafford10]

Typically the double team comes after Embiid has the ball.

Passing to a man who already has 2 guys within arms reach of him is never ideal.

Most, if not all, NBA guards and forwards would identify that situation, see that there is an easy 8 foot shot they could take instead, and take it.

Ben doesn't do those things, he tries to force bad passes rather than take an easy open jump shot. Every time. And it can be frustrating to watch when he is so good at so many aspects of this game, for him to not be comfortable just pulling up and making the smart play.

Those kinds of limitations are what kill playoff teams. Turnovers because you jumped in the air, turned around and tried to pass it while the defense knows exactly what you are doing, turnovers because nobody is open and you don't want to shoot a jump shot so you force a pass to someone who's being fronted or denied. Missed offensive opportunities because you aren't comfortable rising up to shoot the ball when wide open, so the defense just sags into the lane and makes it 10x harder to score each possession, in the playoffs.

All these things are why fans are unhappy with Ben, particularly when he plays PG with 2 other bigs on the floor.

Which is a Brett issue to figure out. But also a Ben issue because if your 5 best players happen to be 2 big men, 2 wings, and Ben Simmons, then you want to play your 5 best players.

So, Ben needs to figure out how to be comfortable shooting the ball within the next half of the season, or else the playoffs are going to be really hard to watch.

Passing to a double teamed Embiid instead of taking a wide open 8 foot floater was embarrassing. All in all decent game from Ben. Better than usual when Embiid plays.

Embiid is always double teamed down low. You want him to never pass to him?

Simmons needs to get away from Sixers fans...seriously talk about toxic relationships!!!

[phillynative]

Typically the double team comes after Embiid has the ball.

Passing to a man who already has 2 guys within arms reach of him is never ideal.

Most, if not all, NBA guards and forwards would identify that situation, see that there is an easy 8 foot shot they could take instead, and take it.

Ben doesn't do those things, he tries to force bad passes rather than take an easy open jump shot. Every time. And it can be frustrating to watch when he is so good at so many aspects of this game, for him to not be comfortable just pulling up and making the smart play.

Those kinds of limitations are what kill playoff teams. Turnovers because you jumped in the air, turned around and tried to pass it while the defense knows exactly what you are doing, turnovers because nobody is open and you don't want to shoot a jump shot so you force a pass to someone who's being fronted or denied. Missed offensive opportunities because you aren't comfortable rising up to shoot the ball when wide open, so the defense just sags into the lane and makes it 10x harder to score each possession, in the playoffs.

All these things are why fans are unhappy with Ben, particularly when he plays PG with 2 other bigs on the floor.

Which is a Brett issue to figure out. But also a Ben issue because if your 5 best players happen to be 2 big men, 2 wings, and Ben Simmons, then you want to play your 5 best players.

So, Ben needs to figure out how to be comfortable shooting the ball within the next half of the season, or else the playoffs are going to be really hard to watch.

Embiid is always double teamed down low. You want him to never pass to him?

Simmons needs to get away from Sixers fans...seriously talk about toxic relationships!!!

No simmons stans need to get away from 76ers fans. That would help everyone

[Trafford10]

Typically the double team comes after Embiid has the ball.

Passing to a man who already has 2 guys within arms reach of him is never ideal.

Most, if not all, NBA guards and forwards would identify that situation, see that there is an easy 8 foot shot they could take instead, and take it.

Ben doesn't do those things, he tries to force bad passes rather than take an easy open jump shot. Every time. And it can be frustrating to watch when he is so good at so many aspects of this game, for him to not be comfortable just pulling up and making the smart play.

Those kinds of limitations are what kill playoff teams. Turnovers because you jumped in the air, turned around and tried to pass it while the defense knows exactly what you are doing, turnovers because nobody is open and you don't want to shoot a jump shot so you force a pass to someone who's being fronted or denied. Missed offensive opportunities because you aren't comfortable rising up to shoot the ball when wide open, so the defense just sags into the lane and makes it 10x harder to score each possession, in the playoffs.

All these things are why fans are unhappy with Ben, particularly when he plays PG with 2 other bigs on the floor.

Which is a Brett issue to figure out. But also a Ben issue because if your 5 best players happen to be 2 big men, 2 wings, and Ben Simmons, then you want to play your 5 best players.

So, Ben needs to figure out how to be comfortable shooting the ball within the next half of the season, or else the playoffs are going to be really hard to watch.

Simmons needs to get away from Sixers fans...seriously talk about toxic relationships!!!

No simmons stans need to get away from 76ers fans. That would help everyone

ha....is a "simmons stans" American English for "Simmons fans"?
if so one would follow the other surely, Ben goes somewhere else and Ben haters can live again.
Also I would not say I am a Simmons fan, not at all, just came here to read and have been amazed and amused by the Ben hate.

[phillynative]

Simmons needs to get away from Sixers fans...seriously talk about toxic relationships!!!

No simmons stans need to get away from 76ers fans. That would help everyone

ha....is a "simmons stans" American English for "Simmons fans"?
if so one would follow the other surely, Ben goes somewhere else and Ben haters can live again.
Also I would not say I am a Simmons fan, not at all, just came here to read and have been amazed and amused by the Ben hate.

If you are not familiar with the term " Stan" here it is :
There are simply some who find no fault with Ben , everyone else is to blame for his weaknesses, then theres the "everything should be adapted to him because he doesnt have to grow because hes great now"! blabber..

I am a Ben fan, Embiid fan and a definite 76er fan thats why Im on this message board. The stans come on here to debate about ben, funk up the place with their nonsensical debates about how great he is and how everyone else is wrong.

[XDevilBoiX]

This thread has gone downhill. Went from discussing Ben’s shooting or lack off to now hating lol. Can we get back on track.

No one here is hating Ben Simmons, we all want to see him improve and be assertive on offense consistently, not when he feels like it. Be the star and top 10 player that everyone expect him to be. Is that too much to ask?

[76ciology]

Regarding Ben and the Warriors game.

There’s just too much mismatch favoring us outside Ben, Draymond hunted Ben all game then Neto also limited Ben’s minutes in the first half.

Love it or hate it, Ben is the kind of player that can’t score on everyone unlike guys like Kawhi, KD or Giannis.

Ben needs a mismatch, which he can generate with his defense.

Ben still struggles to score against some wings, most mobile fours and centers.

[Stonk]

It's very hard to be assertive in half court offense when your team's best player averages league high usage in the only area you can score from/apply pressure to the defence.

It all comes down to his lack of shooting - that is the issue.

The whole mentality/aggressiveness/assertiveness thing is couch coaching nonsense.

[michaelm]

double

[michaelm]

Simmons needs to get away from Sixers fans...seriously talk about toxic relationships!!!

No simmons stans need to get away from 76ers fans. That would help everyone

ha....is a "simmons stans" American English for "Simmons fans"?
if so one would follow the other surely, Ben goes somewhere else and Ben haters can live again.
Also I would not say I am a Simmons fan, not at all, just came here to read and have been amazed and amused by the Ben hate.

I follow the Sixers because of Simmons, but the criticism of him for lacking options in the circumstance described is both valid and concerns something quite problematic for the Sixers given he is their starting PG and they see themselves as title contenders, rightly so imo. Without this flaw in his otherwise admirable game he (and hence the Sixers) would be, again imo, pretty much unstoppable and it is hardly surprising that it perturbs actual Sixers fans.

I do hold out hope in view of his lately improved FT shooting, which as has been said seems to have translated to him finishing more aggressively. If this also translates to even mediocre jump shooting, bingo.

[michaelm]

Double

[phillynative]

His free throw shooting has been encouraging and he seems more aggressive going to the hoop. Because hes obviously not going to shoot , that extra step in the paint is key.

[76ciology]

its case to case. against the Warriors, we need Ben shooting and provide spacing while Biid is dominating Chriss.

But in general and short term, we shouldnt expect or rely on his shooting

[Trafford10]

No simmons stans need to get away from 76ers fans. That would help everyone

ha....is a "simmons stans" American English for "Simmons fans"?
if so one would follow the other surely, Ben goes somewhere else and Ben haters can live again.
Also I would not say I am a Simmons fan, not at all, just came here to read and have been amazed and amused by the Ben hate.

If you are not familiar with the term " Stan" here it is :
There are simply some who find no fault with Ben , everyone else is to blame for his weaknesses, then theres the "everything should be adapted to him because he doesnt have to grow because hes great now"! blabber..

I am a Ben fan, Embiid fan and a definite 76er fan thats why Im on this message board. The stans come on here to debate about ben, funk up the place with their nonsensical debates about how great he is and how everyone else is wrong.

Cheers, thanks for the info.