Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4

[Covi_Marsh]

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[FireMorey]

Morris to the Suns, so that may mean Lowry back to the Sixers.

[Covi_Marsh]

Could mean be a reaction to the Sotto article or could have heard something from his agent

[Snotbubbles]

Rather go after Bobby Portis than DFS.

No question not even close but I do not believe he’s a free agent

The bucks are going to help us and trade us a key rotation piece for a late ‘26 1st? I’d say almost no shot. Makes 0 sense on their end

They are in the 1st apron (~$10M over) and ~500k away from the 2nd apron. By shipping Portis out they get under the 1st apron and save ~26M in taxes. Whether they want to ship him to Philly is another debate, but the incentive is there to move Portis.

[Black Mage]

No question not even close but I do not believe he’s a free agent

The bucks are going to help us and trade us a key rotation piece for a late ‘26 1st? I’d say almost no shot. Makes 0 sense on their end

They are in the 1st apron (~$10M over) and ~500k away from the 2nd apron. By shipping Portis out they get under the 1st apron and save ~26M in taxes. Whether they want to ship him to Philly is another debate, but the incentive is there to move Portis.

Nice. If getting Bobby cost us 3 1sts I'd still be willing to consider. No one that's available comes close to how he'd fit in our lineup.

[MikRay]

Morris to the Suns, so that may mean Lowry back to the Sixers.

Don’t mind this but he can’t be playing over 15 minutes per game imho

[MikRay]

The bucks are going to help us and trade us a key rotation piece for a late ‘26 1st? I’d say almost no shot. Makes 0 sense on their end

They are in the 1st apron (~$10M over) and ~500k away from the 2nd apron. By shipping Portis out they get under the 1st apron and save ~26M in taxes. Whether they want to ship him to Philly is another debate, but the incentive is there to move Portis.

Nice. If getting Bobby cost us 3 1sts I'd still be willing to consider. No one that's available comes close to how he'd fit in our lineup.

Agree we now have a 4 year window I say go for it. truth be told you can always replace those draft picks down the road

[MikRay]

Report: ‘Paul Reed expected to be waived or used in a trade’

By Zach Ciavolella
Posted on July 2, 2024

[Black Mage]

Has anyone else started to think that Ricky Council might be in Nurse's plans for the starting rotation?

His per 36 were solid. He shot the 3 well. His defense wasn't awful. If we did model Miami, I could see us using Ricky as a starting SG surrounded by Maxey/PG/Joel. With them on the court with him, you can survive any flubs he might make and it gives him valuable experience.

McCain, I think, has the keys to the 2nd unit.

[MikRay]

Has anyone else started to think that Ricky Council might be in Nurse's plans for the starting rotation?

His per 36 were solid. He shot the 3 well. His defense wasn't awful. If we did model Miami, I could see us using Ricky as a starting SG surrounded by Maxey/PG/Joel. With them on the court with him, you can survive any flubs he might make and it gives him valuable experience.

McCain, I think, has the keys to the 2nd unit.

I really like him, but I don’t think so. I think we’re looking to sign a veteran power forward. He will definitely get some run this year, however.

[kriss73]

Interesting note by Hollinger on Sixers' cap situation:

"Oubre doesn’t necessarily need to go into the room exception … and further, that Andre Drummond’s new contract happens to be the for the exact amount of the taxpayer midlevel exception. In other words, Drummond and Oubre could swap places in the cap sheet."

"it would let the Sixers spend up to the second tax apron rather than the first."

"Philadelphia could waive Reed, keep Martin on the books, use cap space for Oubre’s deal, and spend $5.1 million in cap room on another player or players. Then, when they’re done using room, they could sign Martin to a one-year deal worth up to $19.7 million (any more would push them past the second apron) with a second-year team option, essentially using his contract as an in-season trade chip similar to how Indiana did Bruce Brown’s deal last summer.

The Sixers would be hard-capped at the second apron rather than the first apron in this scenario and could trade Martin for any player making less than that $19.7 million amount."

In other words:

1. cut (or trade for a pick) Reed
2. sign Oubre with cap room
3. sign onether player with 4.8M salary (Taxpayer MLE)
4. Sign Martin up to 19M and use him as trade chip in season

[ProcessDoctor]

Interesting note by Hollinger on Sixers' cap situation:

"Oubre doesn’t necessarily need to go into the room exception … and further, that Andre Drummond’s new contract happens to be the for the exact amount of the taxpayer midlevel exception. In other words, Drummond and Oubre could swap places in the cap sheet."

"it would let the Sixers spend up to the second tax apron rather than the first."

"Philadelphia could waive Reed, keep Martin on the books, use cap space for Oubre’s deal, and spend $5.1 million in cap room on another player or players. Then, when they’re done using room, they could sign Martin to a one-year deal worth up to $19.7 million (any more would push them past the second apron) with a second-year team option, essentially using his contract as an in-season trade chip similar to how Indiana did Bruce Brown’s deal last summer.

The Sixers would be hard-capped at the second apron rather than the first apron in this scenario and could trade Martin for any player making less than that $19.7 million amount."

In other words:

1. cut (or trade for a pick) Reed
2. sign Oubre with cap room
3. sign onether player with 4.8M salary (Taxpayer MLE)
4. Sign Martin up to 19M and use him as trade chip in season

Holy **** Morey.

[kriss73]

So sign M.Beasley for the taxplayer MLE and trade for Markaanen at the deadline LOL

[Stanford]

I'd be so pissed if a bench player made 4x as much as me because of some bull like that.

[youngcrev]

Interesting note by Hollinger on Sixers' cap situation:

"Oubre doesn’t necessarily need to go into the room exception … and further, that Andre Drummond’s new contract happens to be the for the exact amount of the taxpayer midlevel exception. In other words, Drummond and Oubre could swap places in the cap sheet."

"it would let the Sixers spend up to the second tax apron rather than the first."

"Philadelphia could waive Reed, keep Martin on the books, use cap space for Oubre’s deal, and spend $5.1 million in cap room on another player or players. Then, when they’re done using room, they could sign Martin to a one-year deal worth up to $19.7 million (any more would push them past the second apron) with a second-year team option, essentially using his contract as an in-season trade chip similar to how Indiana did Bruce Brown’s deal last summer.

The Sixers would be hard-capped at the second apron rather than the first apron in this scenario and could trade Martin for any player making less than that $19.7 million amount."

In other words:

1. cut (or trade for a pick) Reed
2. sign Oubre with cap room
3. sign onether player with 4.8M salary (Taxpayer MLE)
4. Sign Martin up to 19M and use him as trade chip in season

That doesn't make any sense.

1) If you are a cap space team, you don't have the tax payer MLE, you have the room exception, which is a higher amount.

2) They have access to more cap space currently than what he's proposing. They could cut Reed, keep Martin's 2.1M cap hold, and have 8M in cap space to spend. And in that scenario they aren't hardcapped at all.

[Arsenal]

Has anyone else started to think that Ricky Council might be in Nurse's plans for the starting rotation?

His per 36 were solid. He shot the 3 well. His defense wasn't awful. If we did model Miami, I could see us using Ricky as a starting SG surrounded by Maxey/PG/Joel. With them on the court with him, you can survive any flubs he might make and it gives him valuable experience.

McCain, I think, has the keys to the 2nd unit.

They should give Council a shot. Eric Gordon is too old to be relied on for heavy starter minutes. Ideally both Council and Martin can step up into the rotation.

I don't think we would start both Council and Oubre though since neither are good enough shooters. But if we find another wing who can shoot (Hayward?) to start, then maybe start Council at SG and move Oubre back to his 6th man role.

[Negrodamus]

Interesting note by Hollinger on Sixers' cap situation:

"Oubre doesn’t necessarily need to go into the room exception … and further, that Andre Drummond’s new contract happens to be the for the exact amount of the taxpayer midlevel exception. In other words, Drummond and Oubre could swap places in the cap sheet."

"it would let the Sixers spend up to the second tax apron rather than the first."

"Philadelphia could waive Reed, keep Martin on the books, use cap space for Oubre’s deal, and spend $5.1 million in cap room on another player or players. Then, when they’re done using room, they could sign Martin to a one-year deal worth up to $19.7 million (any more would push them past the second apron) with a second-year team option, essentially using his contract as an in-season trade chip similar to how Indiana did Bruce Brown’s deal last summer.

The Sixers would be hard-capped at the second apron rather than the first apron in this scenario and could trade Martin for any player making less than that $19.7 million amount."

In other words:

1. cut (or trade for a pick) Reed
2. sign Oubre with cap room
3. sign onether player with 4.8M salary (Taxpayer MLE)
4. Sign Martin up to 19M and use him as trade chip in season

Martin, like KJ Martin? That would be hysterical (and would probably piss off a lot of players on our team).

[Stanford]

RC4's rates were good last year and he passes the eye test. I think he needs to shoot better if he's going to start though.

[MikRay]

RC4's rates were good last year and he passes the eye test. I think he needs to shoot better if he's going to start though.

He plays at 110% all the time. I remember watching games last year - all the sudden, I didn’t know where he came from and got a big rebound - - that’s valuable

[Jailblazers7]

I feel like Council would’ve got playoff minutes if Nurse had that much faith in him. I could absolutely see him winning a starting job over the course of the season but my guess is that he’ll have to earn it over the first 15-20 games.