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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#281 » by ProcessDoctor » Tue Jul 23, 2024 6:36 pm

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No PF signing, sigh...


They have 13 after Reggie. One more to go. Will almost certainly be a PF type.



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I'm not saying we're not getting a PF. I'm saying it's not happening now. It's an open roster spot that will be used on a need basis for flexibility. I.E they aren't going to go sign a PF right now like people were hoping.


I can understand not having 3 really PFs. Having 0 going into the season is inexcusable.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#282 » by Arsenal » Tue Jul 23, 2024 6:39 pm

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ProcessDoctor wrote:We have 2 roster spots open, so I imagine he means there’s room for 1 more signing. Could be wrong though.


I thought the same unless I’m missing something.

1. Embiid 51.4M
2. George 49.3M
3. Maxey 35.1M
4. KJ Martin $8
5. Oubre 7.9M
6. Drummond 4.9M
7. Gordon 1.9M (cap hit)
8. Council 1.9M
9. Lowry 2M (cap hit)
10. McCain 4M
11. Reggie Jackson 1.9M (cap hit)
12. Martin 8.1M
13. Minimum contact 1.9M (cap hit)
14. Minimum contact 1.9M (cap hit)
15. Bona ~1.2M
16. David Jones Two-way
17. Justin Edwards Two-way
18. Jeff Dowtin Two-way
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You're not missing a thing! We now have two spots open, spots #14 and #15. Morey says they'll keep one open (#15), which means we'll sign one more guy (#14), most likely a PF type.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#283 » by Monix » Tue Jul 23, 2024 6:41 pm

Morey is the anti-Hinkie, no PFs rather than Simmons/Grant/Covington/Saric lineups
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#284 » by Sixerscan » Tue Jul 23, 2024 6:41 pm

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I'm not saying we're not getting a PF. I'm saying it's not happening now. It's an open roster spot that will be used on a need basis for flexibility. I.E they aren't going to go sign a PF right now like people were hoping.


Reggie Jackson is the 13th player on the roster. While that's technically the minimum, league rules do state you have to carry at least 14 for most of the season.

They will sign one more vet min guy before camp.


I see, didn't know that. So why is Daryl saying it's open then. Along with the other stuff he said?

The maximum is 15. So if you carry 14 you have an open roster spot.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#285 » by Arsenal » Tue Jul 23, 2024 6:49 pm

I'm hoping the last signing (spot #14) is RoCo. That's assuming he's healthy though, which is a big if.

If not, then get Morris, Hayward, or Osman.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#286 » by kriss73 » Tue Jul 23, 2024 6:54 pm

https://www.facebook.com/RachelNicholsTV/videos/report-on-the-friendship-between-paul-george-and-reggie-jackson-even-in-tough-ti/540627303968014/

Expected.

To sum up:

Morey "best friend" -> Gordon

PG "best friend" -> Reggie Jackson

Nurse "best friend" -> Lowry

Maxey "best friend" -> he is too young to have best friends on minimum contract LOL

Embiid "best friend" -> I predict Lord Cov :D
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#287 » by M2J » Tue Jul 23, 2024 8:01 pm

Arsenal wrote:I'm hoping the last signing (spot #14) is RoCo. That's assuming he's healthy though, which is a big if.

If not, then get Morris, Hayward, or Osman.



Roco might be a pipe dream at this point... At this stage of his career having a knee that fully kept him out for most of the year typically spells bad news for this career opportunity. Hope I'm wrong.

Daryl likely hoping someone else comes available. But, I'm not that mad about the pf thing as some of you as long as he tries to address it with a KJ trade later.

I'm usually the one crying about younger players, but during the dog days of last year KJ and Ricky might have shown something to Nurse... With this improved roster around them.... Maybe they're as capable as a one leg Roco or 0 defense playing Morris. Maybe. I also truly believe that except for a couple of teams, PG is maybe best served playing the 4 instead of chasing around guards and wings as much. Even against those matchups, a guy of his quality will provide mismatches on offense in ways Tobias refused to or couldn't.

I'm not upset about them signing Reggie... He's a good player and fits, but I feel is redundant to Gordon and Lowry and the theory is McCain. Small guards that can play 1-3 sometimes. That's useful but I would love to see that type of player with young legs on the roster like Fultz who you may be able to ask to crash the glass more when big bodies Joel and Drummond (the best rebounder in the game along with Jokic) are having to go on box out mode. Also being more of a point of attack defender.

Maybe they are counting on working and improving Maxey and McCain in that regard... And of course Oubre and Martin are capable too
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#288 » by zaz102 » Tue Jul 23, 2024 8:06 pm

kriss73 wrote:https://www.facebook.com/RachelNicholsTV/videos/report-on-the-friendship-between-paul-george-and-reggie-jackson-even-in-tough-ti/540627303968014/

Expected.

To sum up:

Morey "best friend" -> Gordon

PG "best friend" -> Reggie Jackson

Nurse "best friend" -> Lowry

Maxey "best friend" -> he is too young to have best friends on minimum contract LOL

Embiid "best friend" -> I predict Lord Cov :D
They need to remake the Hangover with best friends Morey, Gordon, Nurse and Lowry
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#289 » by Sixerscan » Tue Jul 23, 2024 8:17 pm

I don’t think there’s much strategy to signing Reggie versus a forward or whatever.

I just think they had a list of guys good enough to be worthy of signing a minimum and whoever agreed first got it.

Reggie played rotation minutes on a title contender last year.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#290 » by Covi_Marsh » Tue Jul 23, 2024 8:29 pm

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Post#291 » by ProcessDoctor » Tue Jul 23, 2024 8:41 pm

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Maybe he should stop drafting and signing 6’1” guards then?
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#292 » by sixers hoops » Tue Jul 23, 2024 8:43 pm

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Similar to the draft, I guess you take best player available for these league minimum options, then sort it out later. If they see a guy who is a traditional PF, but they know that he isn’t good enough to get on the floor for them, then sign a guard that they might actually play.

However, if they don’t sign Morris, Cov, etc, they will be somewhat backed into the corner. Kevin McHale isn’t walking through that door. They might not have the best options via trade during the season.

Often when this stuff happens, GMs already know what their plan is. He may have his eye on a particular player that he knows he can acquire in January, so he isn’t very concerned at the moment. Meanwhile, we are concerned he doesn’t notice the obvious hole on his roster.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#293 » by ProcessDoctor » Tue Jul 23, 2024 8:48 pm

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Similar to the draft, I guess you take best player available for these league minimum options, then sort it out later. If they see a guy who is a traditional PF, but they know that he isn’t good enough to get on the floor for them, then sign a guard that they might actually play.

However, if they don’t sign Morris, Cov, etc, they will be somewhat backed into the corner. Kevin McHale isn’t walking through that door. They might not have the best options via trade during the season.

Often when this stuff happens, GMs already know what their plan is. He may have his eye on a particular player that he knows he can acquire in January, so he isn’t very concerned at the moment. Meanwhile, we are concerned he doesn’t notice the obvious hole on his roster.


Yea they’re giving themselves one shot only, and that one shot isn’t even that good because they signed KJ to only $8 mil. We’d have to couple 4 vet mins to KJ to get someone making $15-16 mil. Alternatively, you trade McCain or one of Drummond, Oubre, or Caleb. Hopefully they know something we don’t.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#294 » by FireMorey » Tue Jul 23, 2024 8:48 pm

I wonder of Brogdon could be a buyout candidate during the season. He might make too much for anyone to trade for and I could see him being bought out if he can't be traded. Not sure if the Sixers need another guard though.
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Post#295 » by zaz102 » Tue Jul 23, 2024 9:07 pm

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Similar to the draft, I guess you take best player available for these league minimum options, then sort it out later. If they see a guy who is a traditional PF, but they know that he isn’t good enough to get on the floor for them, then sign a guard that they might actually play.

However, if they don’t sign Morris, Cov, etc, they will be somewhat backed into the corner. Kevin McHale isn’t walking through that door. They might not have the best options via trade during the season.

Often when this stuff happens, GMs already know what their plan is. He may have his eye on a particular player that he knows he can acquire in January, so he isn’t very concerned at the moment. Meanwhile, we are concerned he doesn’t notice the obvious hole on his roster.
You might be right and at this point I'd probably just sign Morris.

But that being said, they have a lot of draft capital and should be able to easily get a better option than Morris or Covington. Here are three ideas in a wide range.

1. Throw all your draft picks and swaps for Herb Jones.
2. Throw medium amount of picks for Tari Eason.
3. Throw a low number of picks for Corey Kispert.

There are other options out there and I'm guessing it won't be one of these three, but if they are serious about winning this year, I don't think it'll be too hard for them to acquire someone better than Morris or Cov.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#296 » by NearingZero » Tue Jul 23, 2024 9:19 pm

FireMorey wrote:I wonder of Brogdon could be a buyout candidate during the season. He might make too much for anyone to trade for and I could see him being bought out if he can't be traded. Not sure if the Sixers need another guard though.

His pre-buyout salary is too high. Teams above the 1st apron will not be allowed to sign him.
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Post#297 » by zaz102 » Tue Jul 23, 2024 9:40 pm

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Similar to the draft, I guess you take best player available for these league minimum options, then sort it out later. If they see a guy who is a traditional PF, but they know that he isn’t good enough to get on the floor for them, then sign a guard that they might actually play.

However, if they don’t sign Morris, Cov, etc, they will be somewhat backed into the corner. Kevin McHale isn’t walking through that door. They might not have the best options via trade during the season.

Often when this stuff happens, GMs already know what their plan is. He may have his eye on a particular player that he knows he can acquire in January, so he isn’t very concerned at the moment. Meanwhile, we are concerned he doesn’t notice the obvious hole on his roster.


Yea they’re giving themselves one shot only, and that one shot isn’t even that good because they signed KJ to only $8 mil. We’d have to couple 4 vet mins to KJ to get someone making $15-16 mil. Alternatively, you trade McCain or one of Drummond, Oubre, or Caleb. Hopefully they know something we don’t.
I would imagine McCain is definitely trade bait if the right deal is there.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#298 » by the_process » Tue Jul 23, 2024 9:45 pm

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Similar to the draft, I guess you take best player available for these league minimum options, then sort it out later. If they see a guy who is a traditional PF, but they know that he isn’t good enough to get on the floor for them, then sign a guard that they might actually play.

However, if they don’t sign Morris, Cov, etc, they will be somewhat backed into the corner. Kevin McHale isn’t walking through that door. They might not have the best options via trade during the season.

Often when this stuff happens, GMs already know what their plan is. He may have his eye on a particular player that he knows he can acquire in January, so he isn’t very concerned at the moment. Meanwhile, we are concerned he doesn’t notice the obvious hole on his roster.
You might be right and at this point I'd probably just sign Morris.

But that being said, they have a lot of draft capital and should be able to easily get a better option than Morris or Covington. Here are three ideas in a wide range.

1. Throw all your draft picks and swaps for Herb Jones.
2. Throw medium amount of picks for Tari Eason.
3. Throw a low number of picks for Corey Kispert.

There are other options out there and I'm guessing it won't be one of these three, but if they are serious about winning this year, I don't think it'll be too hard for them to acquire someone better than Morris or Cov.


I'll take Trey Murphy out of NO, please and thank you.
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Post#299 » by the_process » Tue Jul 23, 2024 9:50 pm

Isn't McCain's salary going to go up when he signs for 120% of rookie scale? Pretty sure he's going to be at ~4.8M after his rookie deal starts.

So KJ and McCain are now like 12.8M, add a VM and you're up to 15M. The problem would be finding a team who can take three guys, or is willing to waive a couple, and has the player you need.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#300 » by zaz102 » Tue Jul 23, 2024 9:52 pm

the_process wrote:
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Similar to the draft, I guess you take best player available for these league minimum options, then sort it out later. If they see a guy who is a traditional PF, but they know that he isn’t good enough to get on the floor for them, then sign a guard that they might actually play.

However, if they don’t sign Morris, Cov, etc, they will be somewhat backed into the corner. Kevin McHale isn’t walking through that door. They might not have the best options via trade during the season.

Often when this stuff happens, GMs already know what their plan is. He may have his eye on a particular player that he knows he can acquire in January, so he isn’t very concerned at the moment. Meanwhile, we are concerned he doesn’t notice the obvious hole on his roster.
You might be right and at this point I'd probably just sign Morris.

But that being said, they have a lot of draft capital and should be able to easily get a better option than Morris or Covington. Here are three ideas in a wide range.

1. Throw all your draft picks and swaps for Herb Jones.
2. Throw medium amount of picks for Tari Eason.
3. Throw a low number of picks for Corey Kispert.

There are other options out there and I'm guessing it won't be one of these three, but if they are serious about winning this year, I don't think it'll be too hard for them to acquire someone better than Morris or Cov.


I'll take Trey Murphy out of NO, please and thank you.
The problem with Murphy is his contract. He only has one year left and I would imagine you would have to max him or something close to that which would cause a lot issues going into next year.

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