G13: Sixers @ Heat 11/18 7:30pm ET

[stormi]

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We all know atp Kelly Oubre is far from a good decision maker on the court and he probably doesn't find a better pass if there was one to be made, but I don't like this example to validate that point.

Defender goes over the screen so he drives into space, as he should. Robinson is covering Paul George from beyond the 3P line, Herro doesn't collapse an inch negating the drive + kick to McCain.

A more skilled player probably drops in a floater or does better in that situation. He even avoided the charge that Love tried to bait him into, but he definitely should have went up with more intent to score or drew a foul.

[Kova]

Starting to get really frustrated, and a bit disappointed with Nurse. It's not the fact that we were up by 18, and lost by 17 (yeah, 35 point swing is embarrassing, especially considering that the Heat played back-to-back game), but we look like we're playing pickup basketball.

Roatations are all over the place, we don't have any automatisms or schemes, it's like every man for himself.

Embiid looks like a shadow of himself, and I don't know if it's because of the knee, or conditioning. Something is just not right. Maxey is not going to solve our problems.
We're probably 5 loses away from throwing away the season and going into the tank mode.

[Stanford]

Paul George was a disastrous signing. This team didn't need a "3rd star", it needed shooters and a scheme that wasn't Embiid-centric. The McCain draft indicates that Morey's greatest skill might be identifying college players who can play, which begs the question of why we keep trading picks for washed veterans?

Chris Webber, as I said from day 1.

[sweetlou23]

Its still early in the season. The sixers will be fine when they start beating the teams that have a worse record than they do.

[Stanford]

Its still early in the season. The sixers will be fine when they start beating the teams that have a worse record than they do.

[youngcrev]

This is Josh's fault.

Either he saw the great marketing surrounding the Mets turnaround and wants some of that cake.

Or he's boycotting winning until city council approves the stadium proposal.

There's no way they actually stink this bad, right? Right!?!

[mjkvol]

Its still early in the season. The sixers will be fine when they start beating the teams that have a worse record than they do.

"The Sixers will be fine ...."

Depends what your definition of 'fine' is, I suppose. Signing George was supposed to be the crowning move making this a championship contender with a legit "big 3". Anything short of being at least a somewhat serious contender no one wants to play come playoff time can't be described as anything but a failed season, especially given the surprise gift of a mid-1st round rookie who looks like he'll be a solid rotation piece at the very least.

[Jailblazers7]

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I don't care if Joel was trying to be funny or just didn't want to address it. That is 1,000% the WRONG response. It's an insult to his teammates to make light of it and it's a slap across the face of fans who want to see their star care.

Yikes. A quote like that makes me think we haven’t hit rock bottom yet & should expect things to get worse.

[phillynative]

Yikes was box score watching at work we were up with good lead in the first half . I thought maybe we can get this one. Next time I checked the game was over and we lost by double digits. I don't see the point of playing Embiid if we are just going to be a play-in team. Morey has some more work to do.

[sammorey]

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I don't care if Joel was trying to be funny or just didn't want to address it. That is 1,000% the WRONG response. It's an insult to his teammates to make light of it and it's a slap across the face of fans who want to see their star care.

He's a losing player. I am sorry, I think some of the criticism is unfair, but the majority of it is fair.

[Stanford]

Its still early in the season. The sixers will be fine when they start beating the teams that have a worse record than they do.

"The Sixers will be fine ...."

Depends what your definition of 'fine' is, I suppose. Signing George was supposed to be the crowning move making this a championship contender with a legit "big 3". Anything short of being at least a somewhat serious contender no one wants to play come playoff time can't be described as anything but a failed season, especially given the surprise gift of a mid-1st round rookie who looks like he'll be a solid rotation piece at the very least.

Whoosh

[sammorey]

Paul George was a disastrous signing. This team didn't need a "3rd star", it needed shooters and a scheme that wasn't Embiid-centric. The McCain draft indicates that Morey's greatest skill might be identifying college players who can play, which begs the question of why we keep trading picks for washed veterans?

Chris Webber, as I said from day 1.

I wanted them to sign PG but you have to wonder about the risk/reward calculation for Morey's offseason plan when he got his ideal outcome and this is how the team looks. Trading Embiid last offseason was the right move. But I doubt Harris was interested in doing that.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

This was a team that was supposed to challenge Boston. Instead we're struggling to score 90 points and our best player is now a mid first round pick. I don't know where we went wrong, but it's bad.

It went wrong when the team misjudged Joel's knee injury.

Yeah...It definitely went wrong...Definitely. Definitely Joel's knee went bad...Yeah.

[Black Mage]

All of Embiid, Maxey and PG have played ZERO games together.

I literally don't have an opinion on the season thus far, like at all... but the chance of landing Coop or Ace is getting more and more tempting unfortunately.

I know how you feel; but with each loss the math for a path to even a 10 seed is getting tighter and tighter. If we hit 5-15 we're looking at needing a 64% win rate for the rest of the season just to match the Hawk's record from last year for the 10 seed.

[Black Mage]

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We all know atp Kelly Oubre is far from a good decision maker on the court and he probably doesn't find a better pass if there was one to be made, but I don't like this example to validate that point.

Defender goes over the screen so he drives into space, as he should. Robinson is covering Paul George from beyond the 3P line, Herro doesn't collapse an inch negating the drive + kick to McCain.

A more skilled player probably drops in a floater or does better in that situation. He even avoided the charge that Love tried to bait him into, but he definitely should have went up with more intent to score or drew a foul.

Check the body language from Dowtin (who definitely hasn't earned the right to do this mind you). This team looks frustrated with each other constantly.

[76ciology]

The collapse in the second half began when Caleb Martin missed two open threes, and the Heat responded by knocking down their shots. The situation worsened when Nurse subbed in Dowtin, Oubre, and Drummond, disrupting our flow. By the time Yabu was checked in, the team’s morale had already plummeted.

The fourth quarter was a chain of costly mistakes:
- McCain’s 5-second inbound violation.
- Caleb’s missed isolation drive.
- George’s perfect pass to Gordon for a point-blank miss.
- Caleb’s missed fast-break layup.
- George’s turnover, later saved by a challenge, only for McCain to pass it to a Heat player.
- George missed an open three, and McCain took an ill-advised fast-break pull-up three.
- George and Embiid’s two-man game ended in an interception
- McCain was called for an offensive foul on the next play playing handoff with Paul George.

These mistakes compounded, and we crumbled under the Heat’s defensive pressure. The lack of shooting consistency clearly affected our morale, and subbing in players like Oubre, Dowtin, and Drummond in such moments only made it worse.

We need to simplify the offense. The players aren’t yet familiar with one another, and overcomplicating things only adds to the dysfunction.

[Zumramania]

Is it possible that Joel Embiid is...washed? And PG may be semi-washed. It's either that or Joel would need a lot more time to fully recover. At least when Maxey returns we could win some games with the production from him and McCain.

[Arsenal]

Is it possible that Joel Embiid is...washed? And PG may be semi-washed. It's either that or Joel would need a lot more time to fully recover. At least when Maxey returns we could win some games with the production from him and McCain.

We can't win with this terrible version of Joel. If he doesn't revert to his MVP form from the last few years it's over.

Hopefully it's just a conditioning issue.

[Mik317]

Is it possible that Joel Embiid is...washed? And PG may be semi-washed. It's either that or Joel would need a lot more time to fully recover. At least when Maxey returns we could win some games with the production from him and McCain.

its possible

but he generally always starts poorly. That is giving him some benefit of the doubt.

I don't think he played "that" poorly this game process wise at least. Didn't force anything, made the correct pass.

HOWEVA doesn't seem like he trusts the knee at all. Doesn't jump for rebounds, doesn't drive, and all of his jumpers are short. He didn't even attempt to grift. Thats all more telling imo.

I am always expecting the news that he will need another surgery any day now and that the FO/Biid was yet again hiding the truth lol

I swear the jokes about secret tanking feels more true everyday with the seeming lack of urgency from everyone. Like we haven't had any game where even our **** shooters get hot and stay hot? Missing all of these wide open looks. Just randomly stop trying. Logically makes no sense lol. Like on some tin foil hat ****; this is exactly how you'd soft launch a tanking season, no? Even have the McCain break out storyline to take some of the heat off it on some "yeah we ass but hey look at da future doe" stuff lol.

Like I am not mad or angry but still getting mindblown by how ass we have been

[FireMorey]

I think it's highly unlikely he's washed. He's 29 years old and it's not like he's coming off a Willis McGahee injury. He tore his meniscus which a lot of players do and he came back already and played great on one leg. He scored 50 in a game against the Knicks dragging his leg. It would make no sense for him to not be shot in April, but to be shot in November where he's not dragging his leg around or writhing in pain anymore.

It looks mental to me more than physical, he just doesn't look into the games. And also he usually has an entire offseason to work on his game and trains with Drew Hanlen. This offseason he probably didn't train and just sat around and rested.