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Post#281 » by The Guilty Party » Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:49 pm

Wildfire wrote:Nope.

He's pure potential that I have a feeling will end up out of the league in 3 years. Channing Frye all over again.


Wait... doesn't Channing Frye start for the Portland Trailblazers? So he's not exactly out of the league. Also, I'm not a fan of saying that somebody is the "next" someone.

Arthur has had some big games this year and disappeared in others which is why he has a good chance of being somewhere between 10-15. I also wouldn't say he's "pure potential" because that title would go to DeAndre Jordan.
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Post#282 » by roseorbust » Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:57 pm

I really really hope we do something
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Post#283 » by The Guilty Party » Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:01 pm

We just did. We extended Cheeks.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3254453

The timing of this is a bit weird. Shouldn't Ed be working the phones about trade offers and not Mo's agent?? Couldn't this have waited a week?

I wonder if the timing of this announcement is to help cushion the blow of the deadline passing without the Sixers making a deal.
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Post#284 » by philly262 » Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:06 pm

6-10 225 Arthur needs to put on some weight and learn to be more aggresive and get some post skills.

I really don't want anymore passive aggresive players on my team.
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Post#285 » by roseorbust » Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:08 pm

oh gosh... Mo cheeks her another three years doing nothing productive nor destructive.
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Post#286 » by The Guilty Party » Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:13 pm

Well, I'm now of the belief that nothing is going down which is alright. I wasn't expecting anything big to be done at the deadline so we'll go into the summer knowing that we'll have around $10MIL in cap space.

It shouldn't have come to this... but Ed Stefanski is going to have to get creative this summer in order to try and obtain a PF with a post-game this summer.
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Post#287 » by philbe311 » Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:13 pm

I must have been watching a different D. Arthur over the past two seasons... He's good in the post, excellent in transistion, is a good defender, and has developed a nice face-up game this season... The one area of concern I see is his rebounding... He has a nice little hook and turnaround jumper... He's in the athletic mold the sixers seem to be enamored with... I wouldn't hesitate to pull the trigger on him anywhere from them mid lottery on...
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Post#288 » by Johnny Broad-Street » Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:19 pm

If we're not in the Lottery I'd go for Kevin Love.
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Post#289 » by The Guilty Party » Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:22 pm

Ahhh... I'm glad to see someone else has seen the same Arthur I have. Are there question about him? Absolutely. If there weren't, the guy would be a Top 5 pick but I believe he has enough game to be a SOLID pick anywhere from pick #7 down to #15 which is where we will be.
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Post#290 » by STChaser » Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:16 pm

What about Serge Ibaka? Anyone willing to take a risk on this guy if Arthur isn't on the board?


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Post#291 » by Johnny Broad-Street » Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:19 pm

I know very little about him.
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Post#292 » by philly262 » Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:26 pm

I like Ibaka, he seems like he might be a project though, kinda like Thad is a project. But if Kevin Love is avaible where we pick then yeah we're picking him. I mean come on it's the City of Brotherly LOVE.

And since we're trying to be a fast break team, Love's outlet passes which are beautiful and so so good, it would make us one of the best fastbreak teams in the league.
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Post#293 » by philbe311 » Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:30 pm

If Arthur is gone, I'd turn my attention Richard Hendrix or Devon Hardin.

I've search for clips of Ibeka and I'm really not impressed because it always looks like he's playing against 8th graders...

I also wouldn't rule out PG to turn things over to after Miller (Collison or Augustin)...
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Post#294 » by The Sixer Fixer » Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:30 pm

STChaser wrote:What about Serge Ibaka? Anyone willing to take a risk on this guy if Arthur isn't on the board?


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How can anyone really comment on this guy. I highly doubt anyone has seen something besides a youtube highlight clip of him. By everything I have read he sounds EXTREEMLY raw and I do not think that's the kind of player we should be looking at. We need to draft players who are ready to immediately come in and contribute, not someone who is going to ride the pine for 2-3 years before they can even play solid backup minutes.

If we are just talking about bigs, and we miss out on the like of Beasley, Griffin, Lopez, Arthur and Jordan, I would much rather look at Jason Thompson, Love, Speights, Thabeet, Koufus and maybe even Patrick Patterson before I would gamble on Ibaka.
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Post#295 » by The Sixer Fixer » Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:33 pm

philly262 wrote:I like Ibaka, he seems like he might be a project though, kinda like Thad is a project. But if Kevin Love is avaible where we pick then yeah we're picking him. I mean come on it's the City of Brotherly LOVE.

And since we're trying to be a fast break team, Love's outlet passes which are beautiful and so so good, it would make us one of the best fastbreak teams in the league.


Only problem is Love can't run the floor and that is not good at all for a fast break team. He's not going to be leading the break THAT often with his passing so I think you may be overstating how good of a fit he would be. I admit, I also like Love, but I do question how he would fit with the current style we seem to be focusing on.
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Post#296 » by dbodner » Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:44 pm

Only problem is Love can't run the floor and that is not good at all for a fast break team.


The first step of every fast break is the rebound and the outlet pass. I have serious questions about Love transition to the NBA game, but his hurting us in the fast break or our style of offense (do we have one?) isn't one of them.
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Post#297 » by The Sixer Fixer » Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:01 pm

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Only problem is Love can't run the floor and that is not good at all for a fast break team.


The first step of every fast break is the rebound and the outlet pass. I have serious questions about Love transition to the NBA game, but his hurting us in the fast break or our style of offense (do we have one?) isn't one of them.


Well, like I said, it's not THAT often that he's going to be the one with the ball on the rebound AND we are going to have a fast break oppotunity when he does. I think that one skill will have value, but it doesn't make him a better fit than other PF's IMO. Alos, you need the PF to be on the break every now and then. You at least want him to be there for a put back rebound attempt and the more I watch him, it's obivousl he is always the last guy down the court on fast breaks (actually on many he doesn't even run the court).

Now if we took a player like him, I can see us playing at a slower tempo to accomodate him. We would actually have a player who can play with his back to the basket. He's got great court vision so he can still create easier baskets for other guys via his passing from the post.
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Post#298 » by dbodner » Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:09 pm

Alos, you need the PF to be on the break every now and then. You at least want him to be there for a put back rebound attempt and the more I watch him, it's obivousl he is always the last guy down the court on fast breaks (actually on many he doesn't even run the court).


Actually, I think you do. You don't need 5 people sprinting down the court for a fast break. Sure, we might lose a break or two because Love doesn't make it down the court. But he'll create a break or two because he'll make outlet passes nobody else on our team can make (not to mention get rebounds nobody on our team gets). I think he'd definitely be a net positive on our fast break.

A rebounder/outlet passer and a shooter/trailer are needed for our break, IMO. There are only so many lanes to fill by people sprinting out.
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Post#299 » by wow444 » Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:12 pm

dbodner wrote:
Only problem is Love can't run the floor and that is not good at all for a fast break team.


The first step of every fast break is the rebound and the outlet pass. I have serious questions about Love transition to the NBA game, but his hurting us in the fast break or our style of offense (do we have one?) isn't one of them.


I think we'd make a mistake if we didn't go for the little fundamental. We'd have to cover for him on the defensive end but the guy is a lights out shooter (think of him as the Anti-Reggie). I was dead set against drafting him anywhere, at the beginning of the year, but he has won me over. His smarts, strength and shooting overcome his lead footed lack of verticality and his size. Oh on the fast break he is the guy hitting the three as a trailer...
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Post#300 » by Johnny Broad-Street » Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:23 pm

I like Love because right now we have no half-court game. ading a guy that can key the break AND give us a half court option other than miller. its great to have at least one player to bail you out if you're stuck in a down-tempo playoff series
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