2013-2014 College Basketball / '14 NBA Draft Thread

[Sixersftw]

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I know, and you're entitled to your opinion too. I'm not saying you're wrong, I just don't see why everyone is enamored with James Young, to the point where he's that much better than Aaron. In my opinion, and I wouldn't be surprised if most UK fans feel this way, Aaron is more important than Young and is basically overall a better player. It's certainly arguable, but I'm not as confident when Young has the ball over Aaron.

UK Fan here. I think they are about equal players both have some talent but disappear randomly. However, I do agree that Aaron, the twins in general, are much more important to the team. When they play well we play well. Luckily, Aaron has been on a roll at the perfect time.

Number 9 is just 2 games away...

isnt it annoying/not as satisfying having to watch a whole new team every season?

I'll echo Negrodamus, no. Thats just the nature of the game now. The stars of every team change annually. We just happen to sometimes have stars at every starting position lol. The great majority of my family is from Kentucky/went to UK and that kind of constant fervor for a sports team is indescribable. When you grow up with it, it really doesn't matter what practices, as long as they are legal, they employ to field a team. I'm always gonna be obsessed with that team no matter what..

I think it helps that I'm a Sixers fan too. No matter how disappointing the Sixers are I usually have something to look forward to in March.

[sixers23]

but its most likely not legal based on calipari's track record lol

[sixers hoops]

UK Fan here. I think they are about equal players both have some talent but disappear randomly. However, I do agree that Aaron, the twins in general, are much more important to the team. When they play well we play well. Luckily, Aaron has been on a roll at the perfect time.

Number 9 is just 2 games away...

isnt it annoying/not as satisfying having to watch a whole new team every season?

I'll echo Negrodamus, no. Thats just the nature of the game now. The stars of every team change annually. We just happen to sometimes have stars at every starting position lol. The great majority of my family is from Kentucky/went to UK and that kind of constant fervor for a sports team is indescribable. When you grow up with it, it really doesn't matter what practices, as long as they are legal, they employ to field a team. I'm always gonna be obsessed with that team no matter what..

I think it helps that I'm a Sixers fan too. No matter how disappointing the Sixers are I usually have something to look forward to in March.

Calipari is the best recruiter in college basketball. Did the same thing at Memphis. Even got commitments from major recruits like amare and Dejuan Wagner who decided to skip college.

However, if I were him, I would look for more players to stay two years. It must be draining to start over every year.

[sixers23]

isnt it annoying/not as satisfying having to watch a whole new team every season?

I'll echo Negrodamus, no. Thats just the nature of the game now. The stars of every team change annually. We just happen to sometimes have stars at every starting position lol. The great majority of my family is from Kentucky/went to UK and that kind of constant fervor for a sports team is indescribable. When you grow up with it, it really doesn't matter what practices, as long as they are legal, they employ to field a team. I'm always gonna be obsessed with that team no matter what..

I think it helps that I'm a Sixers fan too. No matter how disappointing the Sixers are I usually have something to look forward to in March.

Calipari is the best recruiter in college basketball. Did the same thing at Memphis. Even got commitments from major recruits like amare and Dejuan Wagner who decided to skip college.

However, if I were him, I would look for more players to stay two years. It must be draining to start over every year.

helps when u pay them

[Negrodamus]

isnt it annoying/not as satisfying having to watch a whole new team every season?

I'll echo Negrodamus, no. Thats just the nature of the game now. The stars of every team change annually. We just happen to sometimes have stars at every starting position lol. The great majority of my family is from Kentucky/went to UK and that kind of constant fervor for a sports team is indescribable. When you grow up with it, it really doesn't matter what practices, as long as they are legal, they employ to field a team. I'm always gonna be obsessed with that team no matter what..

I think it helps that I'm a Sixers fan too. No matter how disappointing the Sixers are I usually have something to look forward to in March.

Calipari is the best recruiter in college basketball. Did the same thing at Memphis. Even got commitments from major recruits like amare and Dejuan Wagner who decided to skip college.

However, if I were him, I would look for more players to stay two years. It must be draining to start over every year.

DaJuan Wagner did play for him at Memphis. When Wagner said he wanted to come back for his sophomore year, Calipari took away his scholarship because he would have been wasting time and potential money by coming back. Calipari is very much a players first coach. I'm sure he's told many players that were considering a return to go to the draft because they would be missing out on millions.

[Negrodamus]

I'll echo Negrodamus, no. Thats just the nature of the game now. The stars of every team change annually. We just happen to sometimes have stars at every starting position lol. The great majority of my family is from Kentucky/went to UK and that kind of constant fervor for a sports team is indescribable. When you grow up with it, it really doesn't matter what practices, as long as they are legal, they employ to field a team. I'm always gonna be obsessed with that team no matter what..

I think it helps that I'm a Sixers fan too. No matter how disappointing the Sixers are I usually have something to look forward to in March.

Calipari is the best recruiter in college basketball. Did the same thing at Memphis. Even got commitments from major recruits like amare and Dejuan Wagner who decided to skip college.

However, if I were him, I would look for more players to stay two years. It must be draining to start over every year.

helps when u pay them

I'm not going to dignify this with a response. Your ignorance on any of Calipari's history is astonishing.

[sixers hoops]

I'll echo Negrodamus, no. Thats just the nature of the game now. The stars of every team change annually. We just happen to sometimes have stars at every starting position lol. The great majority of my family is from Kentucky/went to UK and that kind of constant fervor for a sports team is indescribable. When you grow up with it, it really doesn't matter what practices, as long as they are legal, they employ to field a team. I'm always gonna be obsessed with that team no matter what..

I think it helps that I'm a Sixers fan too. No matter how disappointing the Sixers are I usually have something to look forward to in March.

Calipari is the best recruiter in college basketball. Did the same thing at Memphis. Even got commitments from major recruits like amare and Dejuan Wagner who decided to skip college.

However, if I were him, I would look for more players to stay two years. It must be draining to start over every year.

DaJuan Wagner did play for him at Memphis. When Wagner said he wanted to come back for his sophomore year, Calipari took away his scholarship because he would have been wasting time and potential money by coming back. Calipari is very much a players first coach. I'm sure he's told many players that were considering a return to go to the draft because they would be missing out on millions.

I forgot Wagner went to college.

[James40]

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The good old days!

[sixers23]

Calipari is the best recruiter in college basketball. Did the same thing at Memphis. Even got commitments from major recruits like amare and Dejuan Wagner who decided to skip college.

However, if I were him, I would look for more players to stay two years. It must be draining to start over every year.

helps when u pay them

I'm not going to dignify this with a response. Your ignorance on any of Calipari's history is astonishing.

oh did he not get final fours vacated at 2 separate schools? lol cmon the dude is a scumbag

[PhilasFinest]

Recruiting the top talents in the country is a cut-throat process/business....almost all the schools/coaches/programs play dirty.....some are just much better at it and have more resources than others.(just like pro clubs)

how being great at the process makes someone a "scumbag" is beyond me.

[PhilasFinest]

<------- oh yea doesn't Wiggins look great in a sixes jersey??!!!

[sixers23]

Recruiting the top talents in the country is a cut-throat process/business....almost all the schools/coaches/programs play dirty.....some are just much better at it and have more resources than others.(just like pro clubs)

how being great at the process makes someone a "scumbag" is beyond me.

he is just pretty much everything wrong with college basketball. taking away kids scholarships to get his one and done kids spots, etc.

[Negrodamus]

helps when u pay them

I'm not going to dignify this with a response. Your ignorance on any of Calipari's history is astonishing.

oh did he not get final fours vacated at 2 separate schools? lol cmon the dude is a scumbag

Yea, and you clearly don't know the reason why those final fours were vacated. Like I said, you're ignorance is astonishing.

[Mik317]

Recruiting the top talents in the country is a cut-throat process/business....almost all the schools/coaches/programs play dirty.....some are just much better at it and have more resources than others.(just like pro clubs)

how being great at the process makes someone a "scumbag" is beyond me.

he is just pretty much everything wrong with college basketball. taking away kids scholarships to get his one and done kids spots, etc.

That's called doing your job. Pretty well actually.

I'm not saying dude is a saint but you have to be an idiot if you think he is the only one doing things outside the lines.

[Negrodamus]

Recruiting the top talents in the country is a cut-throat process/business....almost all the schools/coaches/programs play dirty.....some are just much better at it and have more resources than others.(just like pro clubs)

how being great at the process makes someone a "scumbag" is beyond me.

he is just pretty much everything wrong with college basketball. taking away kids scholarships to get his one and done kids spots, etc.

That's called doing your job. Pretty well actually.

I'm not saying dude is a saint but you have to be an idiot if you think he is the only one doing things outside the lines.

I think he's referring to when Calipari took over the UK job, he chose to not re-up on 3 of the players scholarships from the existing team. Scholarships are one year contracts for those of you not in the know. Calipari's job is to win games. If he doesn't feel those guys are going to accomplish that, then he doesn't offer them a scholarship for the next year. It's not illegal or unethical. Those kids all went elsewhere and pursued their college basketball careers/education.

What we don't talk about is how Calipari helps kids that are generally from mid to lower income class go to college for one year and then make them instant millionaires while making them follow through on their education. That's not how it's portrayed in the public eye. People see it as Calipari renting these kids for a year for cheap wins and empty championships... But if these kids were to create a wildly successful tech startup in their freshman year, then drop out of college once they were a millionaire, that would be a cool story about a kid becoming successful. Why is this the case? Shouldn't these "one and done" kids be celebrated for their achievements? My only conclusion is jealousy. Every other fan base is jealous of what UK has and how good of a recruiter John Calipari is. So they resort to absurd and baseless claims of him "paying players". I've learned to just roll my eyes and move on because those are the ill-informed basketball fans that I'd rather not waste my time explaining why their wrong.

[sixers23]

im also talking about what he did to ryan harrow

he bitches in interviews about how he has such inexpeirenced teams and complains that they have to play more experienced teams when he chooses to recruit that way lol i just cant stand the guy and think hes a scumbag. im sure he will try the nba in a few years once the novelty has worn off or he ends up getting more violations

im far from jealous lol i would never want a program run the way he does it

[Negrodamus]

im also talking about what he did to ryan harrow

he bitches in interviews about how he has such inexpeirenced teams and complains that they have to play more experienced teams when he chooses to recruit that way lol i just cant stand the guy and think hes a scumbag. im sure he will try the nba in a few years once the novelty has worn off or he ends up getting more violations

im far from jealous lol i would never want a program run the way he does it

What did he do to Ryan Harrow? Did Calipari give Harrow's father a stroke? If not, then it's another situation that you're clearly not informed about. Harrow transfered to Georgia St to be closer to his father who suffered a debilitating stroke in 2012.

When does he bitch? He was annoyed that he played against Michigan St in the third game of the season. He realizes he has a inexperienced team and repeatedly says "I like my team" even when we looked awful. But you're right, I'd absolutely hate a guy for something like that. Definition of scumbag: being annoyed about playing experienced teams.

[sixers23]

i also find it funny how many kentucky fans hated the guy until he became thier coach and now hes a god

not saying you were one of those fans just that their are plenty of them

[James40]

im also talking about what he did to ryan harrow

he bitches in interviews about how he has such inexpeirenced teams and complains that they have to play more experienced teams when he chooses to recruit that way lol i just cant stand the guy and think hes a scumbag. im sure he will try the nba in a few years once the novelty has worn off or he ends up getting more violations

im far from jealous lol i would never want a program run the way he does it

He already coached the Nets, then I think he was an assistant for Larry Brown. No one remembers the screaming match he had with John Chaney? With Chaney yelling "I'll kill ya"? That's was some great TV, I know its irrelevant but it does include Calipari.

[LloydFree]

2014 Draft board (as of 3/28/14
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No KJ McDaniels, Lloyd?

Size. 6'6 SFs have a hard time, unless they are ball handlers or freakish athletes. 2 inches in height is the difference between a lot of the 2nd round picks being lottery picks.

KJ McDaniels
Nic Johnson
Johnny O'bryant
Glen Robinson III