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Re: RE: Re: 2017 Draft and 16-17 Pick Watch (Sac Swap Rights, LAL pick) 

Post#301 » by HeJind » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:10 am

phiphan wrote:2. Lakers - 24.5 Over
4. Sixers - 27.5 Under
5. Kings - 32.5 Over

Take these bets and make some easy money fellas

I'm actually confident on Kings hitting the under. Last season was the first time they ever got close to that total. And now they'll be without Collison and an unhappy Rudy Gay. They also lost their 2 best SG'S.

I'd be very surprised if they hit 33 wins again.

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Re: 2017 Draft and 16-17 Pick Watch (Sac Swap Rights, LAL pick) 

Post#302 » by Wilfried » Thu Sep 22, 2016 8:41 am

Afflalo is a good SG.

Middleton is out for 6 months. I wonder what this will do with the Bucks. I think he's their most important player because of the enormous spacing problems they have.

They were not that good last season, don't think this will help them.
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Re: 2017 Draft and 16-17 Pick Watch (Sac Swap Rights, LAL pick) 

Post#303 » by Sixerscan » Thu Sep 22, 2016 12:35 pm

Afflalo has been pretty crappy the last two years. Wouldn't count on him as a starter at this point.
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Re: 2017 Draft and 16-17 Pick Watch (Sac Swap Rights, LAL pick) 

Post#304 » by No-Man » Thu Sep 22, 2016 2:09 pm

phiphan wrote:2. Lakers - 24.5 Over
4. Sixers - 27.5 Under
5. Kings - 32.5 Over

Take these bets and make some easy money fellas

The Lakers bet is really risky, I would have them at 24W right now, they could go over, slighlty, but most likely is under.
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Re: RE: Re: 2017 Draft and 16-17 Pick Watch (Sac Swap Rights, LAL pick) 

Post#305 » by phiphan » Thu Sep 22, 2016 2:11 pm

HeJind wrote:
phiphan wrote:2. Lakers - 24.5 Over
4. Sixers - 27.5 Under
5. Kings - 32.5 Over

Take these bets and make some easy money fellas


I'm actually confident on Kings hitting the under. Last season was the first time they ever got close to that total. And now they'll be without Collison and an unhappy Rudy Gay. They also lost their 2 best SG'S.

I'd be very surprised if they hit 33 wins again.

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I think Joerger is a perfect fit with DMC. He'll also have them playing decent defense. I expect 36 wins or so.
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Re: 2017 Draft and 16-17 Pick Watch (Sac Swap Rights, LAL pick) 

Post#306 » by No-Man » Thu Sep 22, 2016 2:13 pm

The Kings are gonna hit the over clearly unless DMC misses half the season, they still lack creation from their Guards, but have improved tremendously defensively, Afflalo is not great there but he is solid, which is worlds better than Belinelli, same with Temple and Rondo and they added Tolliver and Barnes that are tough, hard-nosed guys, they are gonna have a hard time scoring and play plenty of ugly ball, esp the moments were Willie and Cousins play together, or even Willie and Koufos (yikes) but just with Cousins scoring, Casspi and some shooting, plus that improved defensive potential, they should win around 35 games.
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Re: 2017 Draft and 16-17 Pick Watch (Sac Swap Rights, LAL pick) 

Post#307 » by phiphan » Fri Sep 23, 2016 7:03 pm

Heat now possibly without Bosh puts them in play for worst 5. If Whiteside is his typical injured self, look out below...
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Re: 2017 Draft and 16-17 Pick Watch (Sac Swap Rights, LAL pick) 

Post#308 » by LloydFree » Fri Sep 23, 2016 8:41 pm

^ Beat me to it. Anybody that thought there was any chance that the Heat doctors were going to give Bosh a passing grade on his physical: I got some swamp land for sale cheap. :D

Pat Riley has been one of the league's premier strategical, sneaky, tank specialists of the last 15 years. He undercover tanked to get in position to get Wade. He undercover tanked in 2009 to clear 60 million in cap space for 2010, to get the Big 3. Then he tanked the last month of 2015, to keep his protected pick from the 76ers... and he will tank like nobody's business this season, because the Heat owe 2 of their next 4, 1st round picks to Phoenix and this is one of the few chances in the next half decade they'll have a good chance at acquiring a great young talent.

The good news is that is one more team competing with the Lakers for a top 3 pick.
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Re: 2017 Draft and 16-17 Pick Watch (Sac Swap Rights, LAL pick) 

Post#309 » by Wilfried » Sat Sep 24, 2016 11:33 am

Thomas Robinson to Lakers?

Think with adding Mozgov, Robinson, Calderon, Deng, Yi, Ingram (and Walton), they will end up around 25-30 wins.
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Re: 2017 Draft and 16-17 Pick Watch (Sac Swap Rights, LAL pick) 

Post#310 » by No-Man » Sat Sep 24, 2016 2:26 pm

They Heat are gonna end up better than people expect unless Whiteside misses half the season, they are gonna have a hard time scoring but they have Dragic at the point of attack playing PnR to death and got athletes and defenders, unless they purposely tank from the FO with minor moves or resting players, which is possible, they have no shot at a top5 pick, too much talent, likely gonna be a late lotto team.

The Lakers are not winning more than 23-24 games tops, and that's with most of it going well, Robinson probably wont even make the team, Yi is just a trade chip they structured his contract that way to match a trade down the road or jsut be cut, Mozgov shall see which level he is at and Calderon is not better than Huertas.
76ers gonna need luck on their side on lottonight to sniff that pick this year, most likely not happening.
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Post#311 » by Sixerscan » Sat Sep 24, 2016 2:47 pm

The thing is they have no depth now. They're one front court injury from Derrick Williams or Willie Reed having to start, and it's not clear who is backing them up. And between the only two established above average players on their roster, Dragic has sort of checked out when things weren't going well that last year in Phoenix, and Whiteside is Whiteside. I'm not gonna say that they will be bottom 5, but they fit the mold of the surprise team that has a couple of injuries and completely implodes.
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Post#312 » by Duke4life831 » Sat Sep 24, 2016 5:23 pm

LloydFree wrote:^ Beat me to it. Anybody that thought there was any chance that the Heat doctors were going to give Bosh a passing grade on his physical: I got some swamp land for sale cheap. :D

Pat Riley has been one of the league's premier strategical, sneaky, tank specialists of the last 15 years. He undercover tanked to get in position to get Wade. He undercover tanked in 2009 to clear 60 million in cap space for 2010, to get the Big 3. Then he tanked the last month of 2015, to keep his protected pick from the 76ers... and he will tank like nobody's business this season, because the Heat owe 2 of their next 4, 1st round picks to Phoenix and this is one of the few chances in the next half decade they'll have a good chance at acquiring a great young talent.

The good news is that is one more team competing with the Lakers for a top 3 pick.


Ya Heat are going to tank this year, probably get lucky in the lottery get a top 5 pick, and a top 5 pick in this upcoming draft can be a franchise player, then they have money to spend in the offseason to try and sign a big FA. I can see Riley turning the Heat back to a top 4 seed in the east in one year
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Re: 2017 Draft and 16-17 Pick Watch (Sac Swap Rights, LAL pick) 

Post#313 » by Wilfried » Sun Sep 25, 2016 7:08 am

Fischella wrote:The Lakers are not winning more than 23-24 games tops, and that's with most of it going well, Robinson probably wont even make the team, Yi is just a trade chip they structured his contract that way to match a trade down the road or jsut be cut, Mozgov shall see which level he is at and Calderon is not better than Huertas.
76ers gonna need luck on their side on lottonight to sniff that pick this year, most likely not happening.


They won 17 games last season. I would think a good coach, Ingram, Deng, Mozgov, an improved Russell(?), ... would help them win more than 6 games more.

But, we will see
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Re: 2017 Draft and 16-17 Pick Watch (Sac Swap Rights, LAL pick) 

Post#314 » by gaspar » Sun Sep 25, 2016 7:34 am

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Fischella wrote:The Lakers are not winning more than 23-24 games tops, and that's with most of it going well, Robinson probably wont even make the team, Yi is just a trade chip they structured his contract that way to match a trade down the road or jsut be cut, Mozgov shall see which level he is at and Calderon is not better than Huertas.
76ers gonna need luck on their side on lottonight to sniff that pick this year, most likely not happening.


They won 17 games last season. I would think a good coach, Ingram, Deng, Mozgov, an improved Russell(?), ... would help them win more than 6 games more.

But, we will see

Ingram is a rookie, Mozgov and Deng are solid vets but they are injury prone and even if healthy they are not gonna make a big difference on a bad team and I'm not sold Luke Walton as a great coach just yet. They also have a huge incentive to tank again this season. If they lose their pick this year to Philly, the Magic would also get LAL's 2019 unprotected 1st round pick. If the Lakers keep their 1st round pick this year, Orlando gets only 2017 and 2018 2nd round picks. 20-24 wins seems about right for the Lakers.
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Re: 2017 Draft and 16-17 Pick Watch (Sac Swap Rights, LAL pick) 

Post#315 » by Worm122 » Sun Sep 25, 2016 1:50 pm

In my opinion this teams are in the tank race:

Sixers;
Lakers;
Pelicans;
Kings;
Suns;
Bucks;
Heat;
Nets (Celtics);
Nuggets; and
Knicks
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Re: 2017 Draft and 16-17 Pick Watch (Sac Swap Rights, LAL pick) 

Post#316 » by LloydFree » Sun Sep 25, 2016 2:06 pm

Worm122 wrote:In my opinion this teams are in the tank race:

Sixers;
Lakers;
Pelicans;
Kings;
Suns;
Heat;
Nets (Celtics);
Nuggets; and
Knicks


The Knicks don't belong with that group. They'll be better than that. My Bold prediction:. If Embiid plays as many games as Anthony Davis, the 76ers will have a better record than the Pelicans.
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Actually if you ask me which Center I want for my perfect championship caliber team, I will chose Asik hands down
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Re: 2017 Draft and 16-17 Pick Watch (Sac Swap Rights, LAL pick) 

Post#317 » by Worm122 » Sun Sep 25, 2016 4:14 pm

LloydFree wrote:
Worm122 wrote:In my opinion this teams are in the tank race:

Sixers;
Lakers;
Pelicans;
Kings;
Suns;
Heat;
Nets (Celtics);
Nuggets; and
Knicks


The Knicks don't belong with that group. They'll be better than that. My Bold prediction:. If Embiid plays as many games as Anthony Davis, the 76ers will have a better record than the Pelicans.


Lloyd, in my opinion the Knicks are one injury from the lottery pick if Melo, Rose or Porzings lost 30 games they are falling away from the playoffs, and the Knicks bench have Brandon Jennings and Lee this two have a injury history, and they have two rookies coming from the bench Kuzminskas and Hernangomez, whats is your opinion about that?
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Re: 2017 Draft and 16-17 Pick Watch (Sac Swap Rights, LAL pick) 

Post#318 » by LloydFree » Sun Sep 25, 2016 4:33 pm

Worm122 wrote:
LloydFree wrote:
Worm122 wrote:In my opinion this teams are in the tank race:

Sixers;
Lakers;
Pelicans;
Kings;
Suns;
Heat;
Nets (Celtics);
Nuggets; and
Knicks


The Knicks don't belong with that group. They'll be better than that. My Bold prediction:. If Embiid plays as many games as Anthony Davis, the 76ers will have a better record than the Pelicans.


Lloyd, in my opinion the Knicks are one injury from the lottery pick if Melo, Rose or Porzings lost 30 games they are falling away from the playoffs, and the Knicks bench have Brandon Jennings and Lee this two have a injury history, and they have two rookies coming from the bench Kuzminskas and Hernangomez, whats is your opinion about that?

I see what you are saying, but I don't anticipate Rose playing half the games either way. At this point, I'm not sure he's any better than Brandon Jennings. But I don't think the rest of the Knicks starting lineup is that bad. If Noah plays 70 games, they'll be better than last year, IMO. Carmelo, Porzingis, Noah and Courtney Lee is a much better starting lineup than those other teams. The Knicks' backcourt is weak, but if you look at it, they're not worst than those bottom teams's backcourts.
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Re: 2017 Draft and 16-17 Pick Watch (Sac Swap Rights, LAL pick) 

Post#319 » by LloydFree » Sun Sep 25, 2016 7:09 pm

Worm122 wrote:In my opinion this teams are in the tank race:

Sixers;
Lakers;
Pelicans;
Kings;
Suns;
Heat;
Nets (Celtics);
Nuggets; and
Knicks

You don't think the Bucks should be in that discussion? They just lost their 2nd best best player and they weren't a playoff team last year
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Re: 2017 Draft and 16-17 Pick Watch (Sac Swap Rights, LAL pick) 

Post#320 » by Worm122 » Sun Sep 25, 2016 7:55 pm

LloydFree wrote:
Worm122 wrote:In my opinion this teams are in the tank race:

Sixers;
Lakers;
Pelicans;
Kings;
Suns;
Heat;
Nets (Celtics);
Nuggets; and
Knicks

You don't think the Bucks should be in that discussion? They just lost their 2nd best best player and they weren't a playoff team last year


Yeah i just forgott to put the Bucks in the tank race kkkk i hope the Bucks finally draft his point guard, is the perfect draft for this

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