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Re: The Legend of Joel Embiid 

Post#301 » by Ericb5 » Thu Sep 21, 2017 6:40 pm

LongLiveHinkie wrote:If there is something going on with his knee/health, then why would the Sixers be trying to sign him to a long-term extension? It wouldn't make any sense. Wouldn't they wanna wait to see if he healed up first?

Tells me this very well might be contract related. If he had a knee setback, they wouldn't be aggressively trying to get him signed, I'll tell you that much.


Its a pity that we are left to wonder about this. I hope that it is contract related, but I don't know why they wouldn't just handle that internally if that were the case, and only bring it up publicly if there was some sort of impasse.

The thing is that the Sixers should have known that this would be a circus if they started to be evasive again, and they did it anyway, which tells me that they are either pathological, or they are literally hiding something.
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Post#302 » by rzzzzz » Thu Sep 21, 2017 6:47 pm

man, it better not be a contract thing. Embiid knows if he feels good or not. (it ain't like last time where the x-ray proved that that navicular hadn't knitted sufficiently, and even then, he had to be talked out of playing on it by somebody he actually trusts, ie Hinkie.) so as he sees what Wiggins just signed for, if he feels like he's getting low-balled, he's out of here. i'd feel a lot more confident if Bryan was capable of a straight answer, but it's a congenital condition.
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Re: The Legend of Joel Embiid 

Post#303 » by LongLiveHinkie » Thu Sep 21, 2017 6:54 pm

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LongLiveHinkie wrote:If there is something going on with his knee/health, then why would the Sixers be trying to sign him to a long-term extension? It wouldn't make any sense. Wouldn't they wanna wait to see if he healed up first?

Tells me this very well might be contract related. If he had a knee setback, they wouldn't be aggressively trying to get him signed, I'll tell you that much.


Its a pity that we are left to wonder about this. I hope that it is contract related, but I don't know why they wouldn't just handle that internally if that were the case, and only bring it up publicly if there was some sort of impasse.

The thing is that the Sixers should have known that this would be a circus if they started to be evasive again, and they did it anyway, which tells me that they are either pathological, or they are literally hiding something.


They were asked if he had any setbacks and they didn't dodge the question on that, they flat out said no.

I think it's either contract related or they're waiting for the new doctor to examine Embiid and come up with a game plan before they announce anything to the public. If they came out and said "Embiid should play 5 on 5 in a week" and Dr. Medina examined him and said I don't think that's a good idea, then essentially they will have lied to the public, and after last season's debacle I don't think they wanna go through that again.

I just think they aren't going to say anything at all anymore unless they absolutely have to, to prevent anymore debacles.
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Re: The Legend of Joel Embiid 

Post#304 » by Jstock12 » Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:01 pm

LongLiveHinkie wrote:
Ericb5 wrote:
LongLiveHinkie wrote:If there is something going on with his knee/health, then why would the Sixers be trying to sign him to a long-term extension? It wouldn't make any sense. Wouldn't they wanna wait to see if he healed up first?

Tells me this very well might be contract related. If he had a knee setback, they wouldn't be aggressively trying to get him signed, I'll tell you that much.


Its a pity that we are left to wonder about this. I hope that it is contract related, but I don't know why they wouldn't just handle that internally if that were the case, and only bring it up publicly if there was some sort of impasse.

The thing is that the Sixers should have known that this would be a circus if they started to be evasive again, and they did it anyway, which tells me that they are either pathological, or they are literally hiding something.


They were asked if he had any setbacks and they didn't dodge the question on that, they flat out said no.

I think it's either contract related or they're waiting for the new doctor to examine Embiid and come up with a game plan before they announce anything to the public. If they came out and said "Embiid should play 5 on 5 in a week" and Dr. Medina examined him and said I don't think that's a good idea, then essentially they will have lied to the public, and after last season's debacle I don't think they wanna go through that again.

I just think they aren't going to say anything at all anymore unless they absolutely have to, to prevent anymore debacles.


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Re: The Legend of Joel Embiid 

Post#305 » by eagereyez » Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:22 pm

It is 100% health related. Why would they sit him out of 5 on 5 practices if it was just contract related? Makes no sense at all. I'm just hoping there aren't any new setbacks.
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Re: The Legend of Joel Embiid 

Post#306 » by Ericb5 » Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:36 pm

LongLiveHinkie wrote:
Ericb5 wrote:
LongLiveHinkie wrote:If there is something going on with his knee/health, then why would the Sixers be trying to sign him to a long-term extension? It wouldn't make any sense. Wouldn't they wanna wait to see if he healed up first?

Tells me this very well might be contract related. If he had a knee setback, they wouldn't be aggressively trying to get him signed, I'll tell you that much.


Its a pity that we are left to wonder about this. I hope that it is contract related, but I don't know why they wouldn't just handle that internally if that were the case, and only bring it up publicly if there was some sort of impasse.

The thing is that the Sixers should have known that this would be a circus if they started to be evasive again, and they did it anyway, which tells me that they are either pathological, or they are literally hiding something.


They were asked if he had any setbacks and they didn't dodge the question on that, they flat out said no.

I think it's either contract related or they're waiting for the new doctor to examine Embiid and come up with a game plan before they announce anything to the public. If they came out and said "Embiid should play 5 on 5 in a week" and Dr. Medina examined him and said I don't think that's a good idea, then essentially they will have lied to the public, and after last season's debacle I don't think they wanna go through that again.

I just think they aren't going to say anything at all anymore unless they absolutely have to, to prevent anymore debacles.


That’s plausible, but they should have hired someone 2 months ago then.


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Re: The Legend of Joel Embiid 

Post#307 » by phillynative » Fri Sep 22, 2017 1:26 am

Joel Embiid health will have us on edge all season
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Re: The Legend of Joel Embiid 

Post#308 » by LongLiveHinkie » Fri Sep 22, 2017 1:58 am

phillynative wrote:Joel Embiid health will have us on edge all season eternity


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Post#309 » by ivysixer2000 » Fri Sep 22, 2017 2:01 am

Ericb5 wrote:
LongLiveHinkie wrote:
Ericb5 wrote:
Its a pity that we are left to wonder about this. I hope that it is contract related, but I don't know why they wouldn't just handle that internally if that were the case, and only bring it up publicly if there was some sort of impasse.

The thing is that the Sixers should have known that this would be a circus if they started to be evasive again, and they did it anyway, which tells me that they are either pathological, or they are literally hiding something.


They were asked if he had any setbacks and they didn't dodge the question on that, they flat out said no.

I think it's either contract related or they're waiting for the new doctor to examine Embiid and come up with a game plan before they announce anything to the public. If they came out and said "Embiid should play 5 on 5 in a week" and Dr. Medina examined him and said I don't think that's a good idea, then essentially they will have lied to the public, and after last season's debacle I don't think they wanna go through that again.

I just think they aren't going to say anything at all anymore unless they absolutely have to, to prevent anymore debacles.


That’s plausible, but they should have hired someone 2 months ago then.


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That someone we could've hired 2 months ago might've sucked just as bad as the ones we have had all these years.

Maybe Medina is better than them and they were willing to wait on him as the right guy.....at least I hope.

Either that or its a smokescreen for a contract hold out.

Wanna flip a coin....
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Re: The Legend of Joel Embiid 

Post#310 » by BNelley24 » Fri Sep 22, 2017 2:45 am

Going to post this @ the risk of being banned etc....

A customer at work has a child that is the personal assistant of one of the 76ers higher ups. When I say higher up, I mean, literally @ the top. I will not reveal who my source or the higher up is for risk of them getting in trouble. If mods want to PM I will reveal for the sake of the info.

A few weeks back this person told me that Joel Embiid had some minor swelling in the knee region. He may or may not have had a minor procedure to drain the fluid.

I haven't spoken to this person for around a month about this but it kind of makes sense when you align it with the fact that he hasn't ben cleared for 5-5. Out of no where we seemingly stopped getting videos of him training during the summer. I don't want to get peophle riled up about his health right now because I do feel the 76ers have learned their lesson & if something major WAS going on they would have released the info. However, I think this is the reason has hasn't been cleared yet but I do believe he will play during the preseason.

My source is 100000% legit. So take it for what it is worth.
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Re: The Legend of Joel Embiid 

Post#311 » by Simmons25 » Fri Sep 22, 2017 3:13 am

BNelley24 wrote:Going to post this @ the risk of being banned etc....

A customer at work has a child that is the personal assistant of one of the 76ers higher ups. When I say higher up, I mean, literally @ the top. I will not reveal who my source or the higher up is for risk of them getting in trouble. If mods want to PM I will reveal for the sake of the info.

A few weeks back this person told me that Joel Embiid had some minor swelling in the knee region. He may or may not have had a minor procedure to drain the fluid.

I haven't spoken to this person for around a month about this but it kind of makes sense when you align it with the fact that he hasn't ben cleared for 5-5. Out of no where we seemingly stopped getting videos of him training during the summer. I don't want to get peophle riled up about his health right now because I do feel the 76ers have learned their lesson & if something major WAS going on they would have released the info. However, I think this is the reason has hasn't been cleared yet but I do believe he will play during the preseason.

My source is 100000% legit. So take it for what it is worth.


I've got no reason to doubt any of this is not true. I've suspected for months something suddenly happened to cause his social media blackout.

Forget the photos and videos of Joel all you want to... the most worrying thing for me was the way he literally just disappeared from Social Media overnight. It seemed like he and the club took the approach... that if you can't ask me any questions then I won't have to tell you any lies.
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Post#312 » by 76ciology » Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:11 am

BNelley24 wrote:Going to post this @ the risk of being banned etc....

A customer at work has a child that is the personal assistant of one of the 76ers higher ups. When I say higher up, I mean, literally @ the top. I will not reveal who my source or the higher up is for risk of them getting in trouble. If mods want to PM I will reveal for the sake of the info.

A few weeks back this person told me that Joel Embiid had some minor swelling in the knee region. He may or may not have had a minor procedure to drain the fluid.

I haven't spoken to this person for around a month about this but it kind of makes sense when you align it with the fact that he hasn't ben cleared for 5-5. Out of no where we seemingly stopped getting videos of him training during the summer. I don't want to get peophle riled up about his health right now because I do feel the 76ers have learned their lesson & if something major WAS going on they would have released the info. However, I think this is the reason has hasn't been cleared yet but I do believe he will play during the preseason.

My source is 100000% legit. So take it for what it is worth.


I think we’re near the limit of “it will be alright”.

I mean.. if this isn’t true, which I doubt it. Biid’s health is as uncertain as it was 3 years ago. He may be able to play soon but how long?
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Re: The Legend of Joel Embiid 

Post#313 » by Sixerscan » Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:14 am

Simmons25 wrote:
BNelley24 wrote:Going to post this @ the risk of being banned etc....

A customer at work has a child that is the personal assistant of one of the 76ers higher ups. When I say higher up, I mean, literally @ the top. I will not reveal who my source or the higher up is for risk of them getting in trouble. If mods want to PM I will reveal for the sake of the info.

A few weeks back this person told me that Joel Embiid had some minor swelling in the knee region. He may or may not have had a minor procedure to drain the fluid.

I haven't spoken to this person for around a month about this but it kind of makes sense when you align it with the fact that he hasn't ben cleared for 5-5. Out of no where we seemingly stopped getting videos of him training during the summer. I don't want to get peophle riled up about his health right now because I do feel the 76ers have learned their lesson & if something major WAS going on they would have released the info. However, I think this is the reason has hasn't been cleared yet but I do believe he will play during the preseason.

My source is 100000% legit. So take it for what it is worth.


I've got no reason to doubt any of this is not true. I've suspected for months something suddenly happened to cause his social media blackout.

Forget the photos and videos of Joel all you want to... the most worrying thing for me was the way he literally just disappeared from Social Media overnight. It seemed like he and the club took the approach... that if you can't ask me any questions then I won't have to tell you any lies.


Certainly fits in the timeline of going radio silent.

That being said, he tweeted a joke about being better than Michael Jordan this week, had several tweets last week about being excited for the season, been working out ect, maybe he's feeling better.

Impossible to know because they won't tell us anything.
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Re: The Legend of Joel Embiid 

Post#314 » by Eyeamok » Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:32 am

BNelley24 wrote:Going to post this @ the risk of being banned etc....

A customer at work has a child that is the personal assistant of one of the 76ers higher ups. When I say higher up, I mean, literally @ the top. I will not reveal who my source or the higher up is for risk of them getting in trouble. If mods want to PM I will reveal for the sake of the info.

A few weeks back this person told me that Joel Embiid had some minor swelling in the knee region. He may or may not have had a minor procedure to drain the fluid.

I haven't spoken to this person for around a month about this but it kind of makes sense when you align it with the fact that he hasn't ben cleared for 5-5. Out of no where we seemingly stopped getting videos of him training during the summer. I don't want to get peophle riled up about his health right now because I do feel the 76ers have learned their lesson & if something major WAS going on they would have released the info. However, I think this is the reason has hasn't been cleared yet but I do believe he will play during the preseason.

My source is 100000% legit. So take it for what it is worth.


Well as long as it's minor I'm good with that. Thank you for the info.
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Re: The Legend of Joel Embiid 

Post#315 » by 76ciology » Fri Sep 22, 2017 6:08 am

Is it the team’s responsibility to hand out info of our player’s health? Dont they have the right to keep it to themselves? It’s not a government.
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Post#316 » by Kolkmania » Fri Sep 22, 2017 6:17 am

BNelley24 wrote:Going to post this @ the risk of being banned etc....

A customer at work has a child that is the personal assistant of one of the 76ers higher ups. When I say higher up, I mean, literally @ the top. I will not reveal who my source or the higher up is for risk of them getting in trouble. If mods want to PM I will reveal for the sake of the info.

A few weeks back this person told me that Joel Embiid had some minor swelling in the knee region. He may or may not have had a minor procedure to drain the fluid.

I haven't spoken to this person for around a month about this but it kind of makes sense when you align it with the fact that he hasn't ben cleared for 5-5. Out of no where we seemingly stopped getting videos of him training during the summer. I don't want to get peophle riled up about his health right now because I do feel the 76ers have learned their lesson & if something major WAS going on they would have released the info. However, I think this is the reason has hasn't been cleared yet but I do believe he will play during the preseason.

My source is 100000% legit. So take it for what it is worth.


Long time poster and seems to match with the Embiid's social media disappearance, so could possible be true. Any reason you're posting this right now and not a month ago? Minor swelling isn't a huge deal, but it kind of is if you think about the time between his meniscus injury and experiencing swelling in August.
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Post#317 » by spikeslovechild » Fri Sep 22, 2017 7:40 am

Unless he is willing to give us a discount there is zero reason to extend him right now
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Post#318 » by Simmons25 » Fri Sep 22, 2017 9:46 am

spikeslovechild wrote:Unless he is willing to give us a discount there is zero reason to extend him right now


Agree. The onus is on Joel now to prove he is fit over a long period and take that risk of breaking down again before signing a big deal or accept the discounted rate now for security for the rest of his life.

He will no doubt get bigger offers thrown at him, but if he took them it would say a lot about him... and I don't think he is that sort of person.
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Post#319 » by Ericb5 » Fri Sep 22, 2017 11:47 am

76ciology wrote:Is it the team’s responsibility to hand out info of our player’s health? Dont they have the right to keep it to themselves? It’s not a government.


I agree that they have a right to keep it to themselves, but they don’t have a right to lie about it.

This is where the media is negligent. They should have asked questions that would force Colangelo to take a stand or admit that he doesn’t want to talk about it.

“What’s going on with Joel?” Doesn’t cut it.


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Re: The Legend of Joel Embiid 

Post#320 » by Unbreakable99 » Fri Sep 22, 2017 12:14 pm

Simmons25 wrote:
spikeslovechild wrote:Unless he is willing to give us a discount there is zero reason to extend him right now


Agree. The onus is on Joel now to prove he is fit over a long period and take that risk of breaking down again before signing a big deal or accept the discounted rate now for security for the rest of his life.

He will no doubt get bigger offers thrown at him, but if he took them it would say a lot about him... and I don't think he is that sort of person.


If the Sixers don't offer a max and another team offers a max and the Sixers don't match and Embiid leaves that doesn't show anything about him except that HE'S A SMART MAN. I would go to the highest bidder too and so would just about 99% of players. This stuff about loyalty is dumb. No one is loyal like that. You have to look out for yourself and considering Embiid has a shaky injury history it would be imperative to get the most money he can get in case he breaks down. People assume the Sixers are in the best spot and have the most leverage. I disagree. I think Embiid has the most leverage. There are teams out there who would offer Embiid the max even if he only plays 31 games again. Embiid knows he's a generational talent. The Sixers are much better with him than without him. The Sixers should be trying to lock up Embiid right now. If the Sixers wait until after the season and see what another team may offer and will match any offer then cool. But under no circumstances should the Sixers not match any offer if they wait, even if it's a max. If the Sixers let Embiid walk because they don't want to match an offer I would be very angry. We need to keep Embiid by any means necessary.

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