76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1

[stormi]

Some interesting points,

a) Morey’s trade/FA target - he wants a two-way player with some playmaking chops
b) it’ll be hard to get a backup pg who can crack the rotation bc of their depth

seems to rule out a few players, "two way" Lavine, "playmaking" OG

Get ready to learn Siakam fellas

[76ciology]

Morey: Embiid has secretly wanted to be Magic Johnson

Bullsh*t

[76ciology]

Some interesting points,

a) Morey’s trade/FA target - he wants a two-way player with some playmaking chops
b) it’ll be hard to get a backup pg who can crack the rotation bc of their depth

a seems to rule out a few players, "two way" Lavine, "playmaking" OG

maybe he’s referring to Li Kaier

[76ciology]

Morey: kelly got the talent to be one of the better talents in the league. Where he got a lot of trouble is when he tries to do too much

[eyeatoma]

Morey: We have a real shot for a title if Maxey can be the second best player of a title team, because we have the ability to get the third best player of a title team with the assets we got and cap space we’ll have.

As ive said.. if we dont make a trade, Tobi and Oubre just have to be that third guy.

Sounds like we're making that trade this year then. No point in wasting a year.

[eyeatoma]

Some interesting points,

a) Morey’s trade/FA target - he wants a two-way player with some playmaking chops
b) it’ll be hard to get a backup pg who can crack the rotation bc of their depth

seems to rule out a few players, "two way" Lavine, "playmaking" OG

Get ready to learn Siakam fellas

Siakim can playmake? Doesn't he hate Nurse. Also, he's worse than Tobias right now, would Tobi leave. Ughg, I want to vomit if that's what he's thinking.

[stormi]

Some interesting points,

a) Morey’s trade/FA target - he wants a two-way player with some playmaking chops
b) it’ll be hard to get a backup pg who can crack the rotation bc of their depth

seems to rule out a few players, "two way" Lavine, "playmaking" OG

Get ready to learn Siakam fellas

Siakim can playmake? Doesn't he hate Nurse. Also, he's worse than Tobias right now, would Tobi leave. Ughg, I want to vomit if that's what he's thinking.

Averaging over 5 assists over his last 200 games and is a perennial +20% assist rate guy.

Tobias averages less than 3 assists for his career and is closer to a 10% assist rate guy.

Siakam clears Tobias as a passer, but I don't like the fit next to Embiid. Feels like they'd interfere space a lot. He's not dominant enough defensively or off-ball to play that Aaron Gordon role.

[eyeatoma]

Some interesting points,

a) Morey’s trade/FA target - he wants a two-way player with some playmaking chops
b) it’ll be hard to get a backup pg who can crack the rotation bc of their depth

seems to rule out a few players, "two way" Lavine, "playmaking" OG

Get ready to learn Siakam fellas

Siakim can playmake? Doesn't he hate Nurse. Also, he's worse than Tobias right now, would Tobi leave. Ughg, I want to vomit if that's what he's thinking.

Averaging over 5 assists over his last 200 games and is a perennial +20% assist rate guy.

Tobias averages less than 3 assists for his career and is closer to a 10% assist rate guy.

Siakam clears Tobias as a passer, but I don't like the fit next to Embiid. Feels like they'd interfere space a lot. He's not dominant enough defensively or off-ball to play that Aaron Gordon role.

Yeah I agree...

[SixersSince82]

Morey: We have a real shot for a title if Maxey can be the second best player of a title team, because we have the ability to get the third best player of a title team with the assets we got and cap space we’ll have.

So, sounds like Morey basically inferred he does not believe Tobias Harris can be the 3rd best player on a title team? Personally, I agree.

Regarding Siakam... This team needs, more ball handling, playmaking, wing defense, scoring and rebounding. Siakam clearly provides the most of that stuff in one person. He's been an overall better player than Tobias Harris over their careers and already proven he can be the 3rd best player on a title team... arguably 2nd best player. (2nd in scoring behind only Kawhi on that Raptors squad) and has improved as a playmaker.

That said, if you think you can get Tobias to re-sign here for 1/2 the price Siakam will cost... and the cost of trading for him early should factor in here, imo, than I think you can make a decent argument to favor Harris.

[Arsenal]

I'm fine with Siakam assuming the price is right. Also fine with bringing back Harris assuming the price is right. An Embiid, Siakam, Harris frontcourt could be very good. That would definitely require a volume 3PT shooter at SG though.

[stormi]

Morey: We have a real shot for a title if Maxey can be the second best player of a title team, because we have the ability to get the third best player of a title team with the assets we got and cap space we’ll have.

So, sounds like Morey basically inferred he does not believe Tobias Harris can be the 3rd best player on a title team? Personally, I agree.

Regarding Siakam... This team needs, more ball handling, playmaking, wing defense, scoring and rebounding. Siakam clearly provides the most of that stuff in one person. He's been an overall better player than Tobias Harris over their careers and already proven he can be the 3rd best player on a title team... arguably 2nd best player. (2nd in scoring behind only Kawhi on that Raptors squad) and has improved as a playmaker.

That said, if you think you can get Tobias to re-sign here for 1/2 the price Siakam will cost... and the cost of trading for him early should factor in here, imo, than I think you can make a decent argument to favor Harris.

Siakam has his pull up shooting warts and he was overtasked, but I think if you put him in a role similar to when Kawhi was in Toronto (lots of corner 3s, lots of attacking in transition and attacking off the catch) he’s shown he can be a championship-caliber contributor.

Some Siakam pro qualities:

- Shooting 38.6% on corner 3 attempts since '18-'19
- Shot 72% on field goals within 4 ft on 300+ attempts (excellent for a forward on high volume)
- Elite at drawing fouls
- Very good on or off the ball in transition
- Elite AST% for forward

Some cons:

- Questionable shot selection at times, which can be related back to him being overtasked in TO as the main man (still achieved multi time All NBA)
- Not as disruptive enough a defender for a player as long and athletic as he is should be

An Embiid/Maxey/Siakam big three definitely piques my interest to a degree.

[eyeatoma]

Watched the clip, Daryl did say what 76 and Stormi mentioned, but Mike said in a perfect world. Daryl also said it would be between 2 players at most. They said they would need to make it work, because we're not going to get our dream player. Mentioned that getting a 2nd best player is very hard, but they believe Maxey will be that player. A 3rd best is hard, but they think it's doable.

Not sure if this definitely points to Siakim, he might be one of the candidates, but I'm sure there are others who fit the mold.Who are ya'll thinking other than Siakim, given that Daryl mentioned it could be someone else also. Note Daryl mentioned no names.

[eyeatoma]

I'm fine with Siakam assuming the price is right. Also fine with bringing back Harris assuming the price is right. An Embiid, Siakam, Harris frontcourt could be very good. That would definitely require a volume 3PT shooter at SG though.

Maxey
Buddy Hield
Tobi
Siakim
Jo

[Arsenal]

Watched the clip, Daryl did say what 76 and Stormi mentioned, but Mike said in a perfect world. Daryl also said it would be between 2 players. They said they would need to make it work, because we're not going to get our dream player. Mentioned that getting a 2nd best player is very hard, but they believe Maxey will be that player. A 3rd best is hard, but they think it's doable.

Not sure if this definitely points to Siakim, he might be one of the candidates, but I'm sure there are others who fit the mold.

Makes sense because yes, it is almost impossible to find all of that in one player. Glad they're not tunnel visioning on Siakam only.

[76ciology]

Morey: We have a real shot for a title if Maxey can be the second best player of a title team, because we have the ability to get the third best player of a title team with the assets we got and cap space we’ll have.

So, sounds like Morey basically inferred he does not believe Tobias Harris can be the 3rd best player on a title team? Personally, I agree.

Regarding Siakam... This team needs, more ball handling, playmaking, wing defense, scoring and rebounding. Siakam clearly provides the most of that stuff in one person. He's been an overall better player than Tobias Harris over their careers and already proven he can be the 3rd best player on a title team... arguably 2nd best player. (2nd in scoring behind only Kawhi on that Raptors squad) and has improved as a playmaker.

That said, if you think you can get Tobias to re-sign here for 1/2 the price Siakam will cost... and the cost of trading for him early should factor in here, imo, than I think you can make a decent argument to favor Harris.

Siakam has his pull up shooting warts and he was overtasked, but I think if you put him in a role similar to when Kawhi was in Toronto (lots of corner 3s, lots of attacking in transition and attacking off the catch) he’s shown he can be a championship-caliber contributor.

Some Siakam pro qualities:

- Shooting 38.6% on corner 3 attempts since '18-'19
- Shot 72% on field goals within 4 ft on 300+ attempts (excellent for a forward on high volume)
- Elite at drawing fouls
- Very good on or off the ball in transition
- Elite AST% for forward

Some cons:

- Questionable shot selection at times, which can revert back to him being overtasked in TO as the main man (still achieved multi time All NBA)

- Not as disruptive enough a defender for a player as long and athletic as he is should be

An Embiid/Maxey/Siakam big three definitely piques my interest to a degree.

You forgot the most important thing in the pros column. He’s cheap. All we need is him willing to sign extension

I dont even think Hawks is still interested in him with how well Jalen Johnson is playing

[76ciology]

Watched the clip, Daryl did say what 76 and Stormi mentioned, but Mike said in a perfect world. Daryl also said it would be between 2 players at most. They said they would need to make it work, because we're not going to get our dream player. Mentioned that getting a 2nd best player is very hard, but they believe Maxey will be that player. A 3rd best is hard, but they think it's doable.

Not sure if this definitely points to Siakim, he might be one of the candidates, but I'm sure there are others who fit the mold.Who are ya'll thinking other than Siakim, given that Daryl mentioned it could be someone else also. Note Daryl mentioned no names.

I think we have to target to trade two players with total of 60+M of salary to fully max out the cap. Thats how I see it but its not in our control.

[Kolkmania]

A two-way wing with real playmaking skills is basically the holy grail of the NBA. I don't think it is realistic to get one of those, except if one of the elite FA's decides that they want to join Embiid and Maxey.

If Maxey does make the next step, a combination of OG Anunoby and Malcolm Brogdon could potentially be realistic, and in my opinion would create a very balanced line-up with sufficient offense, defense and athleticism.

Sixers: OG Anunoby, Brogdon + fillers (Young, Flynn and Porter for example).
Portland: Marcus Morris, + 1st round pick 2026 + 2 2nd round picks
Raptors: Harris, Springer + LAC '28 unprotected pick

Portland have Scoot, Simons and Sharpe, picks can be used to trade for/draft players that match their window better than a 31-year old injury prone guard.
Raptors get the bird rights of Harris (with lack of teams with cap space, he could potentially be signed for a great value contract) and he fits the 6'9'' fetish of Masai. In addition they get a very promising Springer that is perhaps not offensively NBA-ready, but fits well with their playmaking wing Barnes. The absolute prize is obviously the LAC '28 unprotected pick.

Would leave the Sixers with:
Maxey, Brogdon, OG Anunoby, Batum and Embiid
with Melton, RoCo, Reed, Oubre, House, Korkmaz and KJ Martin, etc. to fill out the rotation.

Entire roster filled with two-way players, enough playmaking skills and defensive specialists for the Play Offs, dependent on the specific needs based on the matchups.

[M2J]

Watched the clip, Daryl did say what 76 and Stormi mentioned, but Mike said in a perfect world. Daryl also said it would be between 2 players at most. They said they would need to make it work, because we're not going to get our dream player. Mentioned that getting a 2nd best player is very hard, but they believe Maxey will be that player. A 3rd best is hard, but they think it's doable.

Not sure if this definitely points to Siakim, he might be one of the candidates, but I'm sure there are others who fit the mold.Who are ya'll thinking other than Siakim, given that Daryl mentioned it could be someone else also. Note Daryl mentioned no names.

I think we have to target to trade two players with total of 60+M of salary to fully max out the cap. Thats how I see it but its not in our control.

I think that 2 way 3rd best player thing gives him a lot to work with. Jerami Grant for instance. He may be looking at Randall too. Lavine is clearly an option. OG

Plus if they trade for that player Harris staying becomes more likely. I feel like the fire power is needed and playmaker can mean someone that is able to generate their own offense enough to carry the team for a while too. OG can't

[76ciology]

Morey: kelly got the talent to be one of the better talents in the league. Where he got a lot of trouble is when he tries to do too much

Morey added that sometimes its timing. Oubre seems serious with his career now that he is now a father.

Imagine how good Maxey will be once he’s a dad.

[Arsenal]

Morey: kelly got the talent to be one of the better talents in the league. Where he got a lot of trouble is when he tries to do too much

Morey added that sometimes its timing. Oubre seems serious with his career now that he is now a father.

Imagine how good Maxey will be once he’s a dad.

Maxey is already a professional and mature beyond his years. It won't make a difference for him.

Oubre OTOH we may have gotten very lucky. He always had the talent. If he takes a mature, professional attitude from now on he could be a steal.

Hoping we can re-sign him to a MLE-type contract without actually using the MLE, potentially leaving it open for someone else. This assumes we operate as an over-the-cap team, which is the best way to retain depth.