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Post#301 » by elchengue20 » Fri May 17, 2024 8:55 am

76ciology wrote:The Mavs vs. Thunder series is highly entertaining; it reminds me of those Heat vs. Spurs or Heat vs. OKC matches, where both teams attack 1v1 or 2v2, then lob to bigs or swing to open shooters. This style is highly contrasting to the Nuggets vs. Wolves series.

There are many ways to build a team, and one way is to follow the Mavs' approach. Maxey can learn from Kyrie, who excels in the mid-range area, a part of Maxey’s game that is missing. Embiid can learn from Luka, who stays in the flow and doesn't foul bait as much or complain to the refs, focusing his energy on shot-making.

The Mavs have surrounded their top two players with lengthy shooters who carry most of the defensive workload, allowing Kyrie and Luka to conserve energy for offense.



A couple of lenghty shooters has been the way to go for a while now (basically 3+D players), plus a lob threat in the dunker spot.

Denver also has them with KCP and MPJ, plus Gordon. Minesotta has McDaniels, Towns, plus Gobert. Obviously this is an over simplification and every core has their particularities, but the basic building it's not that different.

You lost me at Luka doesn't complain to the refs lol.
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Post#302 » by 76ciology » Fri May 17, 2024 8:57 am

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76ciology wrote:The Mavs vs. Thunder series is highly entertaining; it reminds me of those Heat vs. Spurs or Heat vs. OKC matches, where both teams attack 1v1 or 2v2, then lob to bigs or swing to open shooters. This style is highly contrasting to the Nuggets vs. Wolves series.

There are many ways to build a team, and one way is to follow the Mavs' approach. Maxey can learn from Kyrie, who excels in the mid-range area, a part of Maxey’s game that is missing. Embiid can learn from Luka, who stays in the flow and doesn't foul bait as much or complain to the refs, focusing his energy on shot-making.

The Mavs have surrounded their top two players with lengthy shooters who carry most of the defensive workload, allowing Kyrie and Luka to conserve energy for offense.



A couple of lenghty shooters has been the way to go for a while now (basically 3+D players), plus a lob threat in the dunker spot.

Denver also has them with KCP and MPJ, plus Gordon. Minesotta has McDaniels, Towns, plus Gobert. Obviously this is an over simplification and every core has their particularities, but the basic building it's not that different.

You lost me at Luka doesn't complain to the refs lol.


Hahaha i came out with that impression from their last game only
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Re: NBA Playoffs Thread 

Post#303 » by mjkvol » Fri May 17, 2024 10:58 am

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eyeatoma wrote:Gb sucking off Jokic like he's got the last dick in the world. Would be nice for Joel to shut their mouths once and for all.

This is the greatest hijinx in NBA history. The dude is amazing but Embiid is better and schools him everytime.

What's worse is that that dodo Gobert is a multi dpoy winner while Embiid has destroyed him every time he's played.

What a terrible outcome for us these last 10 years.

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Lol what a loser post.

Nobody “hi-jinxed” anything. What happened was, Embiid got hurt, per usual while Jokic has stepped up again as his team faced some adversity. And here you are… feeling sorry for Embiid and worried about head to head matchups in the regular season instead of championships.


You've had a stick up your ass about Embiid for the last few years. The GB goes ape **** over Jokic and uses every moment possible to **** on Embiid. I'm just telling it like it is. Jokic has played great, but he's also been incredibly lucky with no injuries, and a cake playoff run last year, and this year.

All I'm saying is, if it were an even playing field, and Embiid were healthy this would be a different story. Just funny how things work out, I'm allowed to vent especially on my own board.


My strong advice is to get off the GB garbage dump and stay off, then maybe you can watch the games with a clearer head. Jokic has three MVP's, all well earned, and a championship he was instrumental in winning. I love Embiid, but in terms of making his team better and rising to the occasion in the biggest spots, he isn't in the same league as Jokic and won't be until he reaches that mountaintop.

What is an 'even playing field'? Embiid staying healthy for the playoffs? Then lose 30 lbs. and make some changes in the way you play, work on things like passing, decision making, and pacing yourself during the season and in games. The Sixers have had their chances in the playoffs, and Embiid has often come up small because he rarely adjusts his game to the circumstances.

This isn't the playground - one on one matchups mean nothing in the NBA. Winning is all that matters, and Jokic is a proven winner. Until and unless Embiid wins one, you'll never win that argument.
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Re: NBA Playoffs Thread 

Post#304 » by Stanford » Fri May 17, 2024 11:56 am

mjkvol wrote:My strong advice is to get off the GB garbage dump and stay off


This is not advice he's willing to take, believe me.
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Post#305 » by Negrodamus » Fri May 17, 2024 12:01 pm

I think in a vacuum, Embiid does a great job defending Jokic and does well hanging points on his head. But since we don’t watch it in a vacuum, Jokic is a far better team player on both end. Different games, both very valuable.
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Post#306 » by Jailblazers7 » Fri May 17, 2024 12:33 pm

Jokic is better because he’s an elite problem solver & that’s the most valuable skill for players of their caliber. It also happens to be the one critical flaw in Embiid’s game.
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Post#307 » by eyeatoma » Fri May 17, 2024 12:40 pm

mjkvol wrote:
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Iverson Armband wrote:Lol what a loser post.

Nobody “hi-jinxed” anything. What happened was, Embiid got hurt, per usual while Jokic has stepped up again as his team faced some adversity. And here you are… feeling sorry for Embiid and worried about head to head matchups in the regular season instead of championships.


You've had a stick up your ass about Embiid for the last few years. The GB goes ape **** over Jokic and uses every moment possible to **** on Embiid. I'm just telling it like it is. Jokic has played great, but he's also been incredibly lucky with no injuries, and a cake playoff run last year, and this year.

All I'm saying is, if it were an even playing field, and Embiid were healthy this would be a different story. Just funny how things work out, I'm allowed to vent especially on my own board.


My strong advice is to get off the GB garbage dump and stay off, then maybe you can watch the games with a clearer head. Jokic has three MVP's, all well earned, and a championship he was instrumental in winning. I love Embiid, but in terms of making his team better and rising to the occasion in the biggest spots, he isn't in the same league as Jokic and won't be until he reaches that mountaintop.

What is an 'even playing field'? Embiid staying healthy for the playoffs? Then lose 30 lbs. and make some changes in the way you play, work on things like passing, decision making, and pacing yourself during the season and in games. The Sixers have had their chances in the playoffs, and Embiid has often come up small because he rarely adjusts his game to the circumstances.

This isn't the playground - one on one matchups mean nothing in the NBA. Winning is all that matters, and Jokic is a proven winner. Until and unless Embiid wins one, you'll never win that argument.


Funniest thing is, I stayed off there, and then those guys came on here to grab my post, and then post it on the GB, so I might as well just post there anyways.

I'm a big boy and can handle it.

Now with regards to Jokic vs Embiid. Jokic has accomplished more yes, he will likely go down as a top 10 player of all time. ON a message board I think it's okay to talk about what could have been. Especially with someone as talented as Embiid, knowing when he's healthy he dominates against everyone including Jokic. All I said in that post is that, we've had a pretty miserable 10 years, of idiocy form our FO, the NBA meddling, and Embiid having the worst possible luck with injuries. For them to act like Jokic is comparable to Jordan at this point is laughable. He's won 1 chip (against a pretty subpar group of teams last year, and had 2 highly contested MVPS, that at one point looked to be Embiid's. All I was saying was that, it could have so easily gone our way.
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Post#308 » by 76ciology » Fri May 17, 2024 12:42 pm

Jokic improves as games become more important. He performs better in crunch time than in the first quarters. He excels in the playoffs compared to the regular season, and his performance enhances as each playoff game progresses.

Playing in numerous years in international competition has made Jokic a smarter player. He has learned to play excellent defense despite not being a typical shot-blocking center. He knows how to pace himself and understands the counters to whatever opponents throw at him.

The thing about Jojo is that he spends a lot of time with Drew Hanlen improving his individual game, focusing on 1v1 matchups. This prepares him well for individual battles. However, basketball is a team game, full of momentum swings, and most importantly it's a marathon.

I notice that Jojo often goes hard early in games and runs out of energy late. He starts the season strong but is exhausted by the playoffs. This is different from players like Jimmy Butler or Jokic, who manage their energy better throughout the season.
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Post#309 » by 76ciology » Fri May 17, 2024 12:45 pm

I believe we could have won a championship in 2019 with Jokic and that powerhouse team, would have beaten the Hawks in 2021, would have beaten the Heat in 2022, we would have beaten the Celtics in 2023 and would have beaten the Knicks in this year’s playoffs. So i dont think the FO is largely to blame.
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Post#310 » by Stanford » Fri May 17, 2024 12:47 pm

Jailblazers7 wrote:Jokic is better because he’s an elite problem solver & that’s the most valuable skill for players of their caliber. It also happens to be the one critical flaw in Embiid’s game.


Embiid is an elite problem solver on defense. Maybe the best in the league. Offense is just more important. Otherwise, I think you're pretty much spot on.
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Post#311 » by Mik317 » Fri May 17, 2024 1:41 pm

Jokic is gdlk

however not having to really anchor the defense allows him to manage his stamina as a big boi a lot...and even on offense he doesn't rely on a lot of movement either. Biid attempting to be Kobe on offense and also a DPOTY on defense while being a big boi doesn't really seem feasible especially with his glass bones. He came back from this recent injury with a floater and in the last game a hook shot....he needs to embrace being a big man. That doesn't mean post ups every time down either as we will never throw a good entry pass...its against the law or something but the giant wing stuff needs to be a last resort option and not his bread and butter.
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Post#312 » by eyeatoma » Fri May 17, 2024 1:47 pm

Mik317 wrote:Jokic is gdlk

however not having to really anchor the defense allows him to manage his stamina as a big boi a lot...and even on offense he doesn't rely on a lot of movement either. Biid attempting to be Kobe on offense and also a DPOTY on defense while being a big boi doesn't really seem feasible especially with his glass bones. He came back from this recent injury with a floater and in the last game a hook shot....he needs to embrace being a big man. That doesn't mean post ups every time down either as we will never throw a good entry pass...its against the law or something but the giant wing stuff needs to be a last resort option and not his bread and butter.


Gonna have to disagree there, the Giant wing stuff is what got him to the MVP level. He would have been fine in this series if he had lift on his jumpers.
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Post#313 » by GoSixersBro » Fri May 17, 2024 1:57 pm

Is basketball even a hard sport if 3 fat guys dominate it and the fourth best has the grace of a Boston dynamics robot?
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Post#314 » by eyeatoma » Fri May 17, 2024 1:58 pm

GoSixersBro wrote:Is basketball even a hard sport if 3 fat guys dominate it and the fourth best has the grace of a Boston dynamics robot?



Eh, Embiid needs to lose weight, but he's probably at 12-15% body fat at most, not really fat, just very poorly conditioned. The bigger issue is his body can't handle that much muscle.

Also who is the Boston dynamics robot lol?
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Post#315 » by mjkvol » Fri May 17, 2024 1:59 pm

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You've had a stick up your ass about Embiid for the last few years. The GB goes ape **** over Jokic and uses every moment possible to **** on Embiid. I'm just telling it like it is. Jokic has played great, but he's also been incredibly lucky with no injuries, and a cake playoff run last year, and this year.

All I'm saying is, if it were an even playing field, and Embiid were healthy this would be a different story. Just funny how things work out, I'm allowed to vent especially on my own board.


My strong advice is to get off the GB garbage dump and stay off, then maybe you can watch the games with a clearer head. Jokic has three MVP's, all well earned, and a championship he was instrumental in winning. I love Embiid, but in terms of making his team better and rising to the occasion in the biggest spots, he isn't in the same league as Jokic and won't be until he reaches that mountaintop.

What is an 'even playing field'? Embiid staying healthy for the playoffs? Then lose 30 lbs. and make some changes in the way you play, work on things like passing, decision making, and pacing yourself during the season and in games. The Sixers have had their chances in the playoffs, and Embiid has often come up small because he rarely adjusts his game to the circumstances.

This isn't the playground - one on one matchups mean nothing in the NBA. Winning is all that matters, and Jokic is a proven winner. Until and unless Embiid wins one, you'll never win that argument.


Funniest thing is, I stayed off there, and then those guys came on here to grab my post, and then post it on the GB, so I might as well just post there anyways.

I'm a big boy and can handle it.

Now with regards to Jokic vs Embiid. Jokic has accomplished more yes, he will likely go down as a top 10 player of all time. ON a message board I think it's okay to talk about what could have been. Especially with someone as talented as Embiid, knowing when he's healthy he dominates against everyone including Jokic. All I said in that post is that, we've had a pretty miserable 10 years, of idiocy form our FO, the NBA meddling, and Embiid having the worst possible luck with injuries. For them to act like Jokic is comparable to Jordan at this point is laughable. He's won 1 chip (against a pretty subpar group of teams last year, and had 2 highly contested MVPS, that at one point looked to be Embiid's. All I was saying was that, it could have so easily gone our way.


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Post#316 » by eyeatoma » Fri May 17, 2024 2:00 pm

mjkvol wrote:
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My strong advice is to get off the GB garbage dump and stay off, then maybe you can watch the games with a clearer head. Jokic has three MVP's, all well earned, and a championship he was instrumental in winning. I love Embiid, but in terms of making his team better and rising to the occasion in the biggest spots, he isn't in the same league as Jokic and won't be until he reaches that mountaintop.

What is an 'even playing field'? Embiid staying healthy for the playoffs? Then lose 30 lbs. and make some changes in the way you play, work on things like passing, decision making, and pacing yourself during the season and in games. The Sixers have had their chances in the playoffs, and Embiid has often come up small because he rarely adjusts his game to the circumstances.

This isn't the playground - one on one matchups mean nothing in the NBA. Winning is all that matters, and Jokic is a proven winner. Until and unless Embiid wins one, you'll never win that argument.


Funniest thing is, I stayed off there, and then those guys came on here to grab my post, and then post it on the GB, so I might as well just post there anyways.

I'm a big boy and can handle it.

Now with regards to Jokic vs Embiid. Jokic has accomplished more yes, he will likely go down as a top 10 player of all time. ON a message board I think it's okay to talk about what could have been. Especially with someone as talented as Embiid, knowing when he's healthy he dominates against everyone including Jokic. All I said in that post is that, we've had a pretty miserable 10 years, of idiocy form our FO, the NBA meddling, and Embiid having the worst possible luck with injuries. For them to act like Jokic is comparable to Jordan at this point is laughable. He's won 1 chip (against a pretty subpar group of teams last year, and had 2 highly contested MVPS, that at one point looked to be Embiid's. All I was saying was that, it could have so easily gone our way.


Bottom line - they're in your head rent free, and they know it. If it doesn't bother you to get f***ked with by a bunch of internet nitwits, by all means go for it.

They pull your posts because they know you'll respond, and they're right. Keep giving them that satisfaction and they win.



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Post#317 » by Iverson Armband » Fri May 17, 2024 3:50 pm

76ciology wrote:I believe we could have won a championship in 2019 with Jokic and that powerhouse team, would have beaten the Hawks in 2021, would have beaten the Heat in 2022, we would have beaten the Celtics in 2023 and would have beaten the Knicks in this year’s playoffs. So i dont think the FO is largely to blame.

Yup. If you swap the two, the Sixers have at least 1-2 chips and Denver has none. That’s the bottom line, but Embiid dominates head to head. So there’s always that.

That being said, the only other players I’d swap Embiid for are Giannis or maybe Wemby (based on potential). Those are the top 3 then a huge dropoff IMO.
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Post#318 » by elchengue20 » Fri May 17, 2024 4:48 pm

At the end of the day Jokic is waaay better than Embiid. Makes everyone around him so much better.

He's reliable as they come and he's been always AVAILABLE.

Leadership wise also he's on another planet, silent leader by example like Tim Duncan or Steph.
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Post#319 » by GoSixersBro » Fri May 17, 2024 7:17 pm

elchengue20 wrote:At the end of the day Jokic is waaay better than Embiid. Makes everyone around him so much better.

He's reliable as they come and he's been always AVAILABLE.

Leadership wise also he's on another planet, silent leader by example like Tim Duncan or Steph.


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Post#320 » by Stanford » Fri May 17, 2024 7:24 pm

Jokic is way better when it matters.

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