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Re: 2025 Sixers Summer League 

Post#301 » by mjkvol » Sun Jul 6, 2025 4:32 pm

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youngcrev wrote:I could see the 10 and 5 part, particularly if our guards are running DHO with him. 20 points feels like it would be a rare occasion since I don't think he's going to be creating a ton of offense for himself or being much of a roll threat.


I see where you're coming from. I just think that Broome is such a per-minute point production beast that he'll find a way throughout the game to accrue buckets.

In his 6 year college career, his per-36 points per game sits at an impressive 21.1.

In this Summer League game, his points per 36 was at 19.5 (pretty much in line with what we should expect).

Enough proof to suggest this guy can flatout score whether or not offense is being run for him and whether or not he's at a physical disadvantage.

Do you feel me on this slightly? Or maybe I'm being too high on him.


I think you're just a bit high on him. Broome will figure out a way to be effective at this level, but it's just really hard to compare college stats and SL to what he's going to be facing every night when it's for real. Jailblazers made a great point that he should look at Hartenstein as a way to make himself valuable offensively, passing out of the short roll and developing a floater. He isn't going to get bigger or more athletic, and that's always what's going to create a ceiling for him unless he can develop a consistent corner 3 and stretch the floor a bit.
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Re: 2025 Sixers Summer League 

Post#302 » by mjkvol » Sun Jul 6, 2025 4:34 pm

Kobblehead wrote:Just want to re-iterate that I LOVE Gs that rebound. This mf pulled 10 boards in his debut! Like damn, VJ is a real one.


Yes! Forgot to mention his willingness to go to the glass, ala a Josh Hart with elite offense.
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Re: 2025 Sixers Summer League 

Post#303 » by sixers hoops » Sun Jul 6, 2025 5:28 pm

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Jailblazers7 wrote:We got a good one y’all. I couldn’t be happier after a summer league debut.

Some other thoughts:

-Bona looked strong as hell out there. He will be an excellent backup big this year.

-Edwards was a little shaky but he suffers most from the lack of a PG on the roster. I need more rebounding from him if he’s ever gonna steal a starting spot.

-Broome flashed his playmaking and IQ but his lack of athleticism was obvious in game 1. He’ll need to recalibrate his finish and play style to succeed in the NBA. For now, he’s someone who can eat up spot minutes because he’s definitely smart enough to play in the league.


Good observations, following up with some of my own:

* Summer League games can be a chore to watch.

* Bona doesn't need to be here and definitely shouldn't be in Vegas. He is a man and the Sixers have at least a solid backup center and potentially more.

* Everything I feared about drafting Broome is present (lack of athleticism and size), but Morey clearly saw his BB IQ and a kid who will do what he needs to carve out a spot in the league. If he can get his FT% to 70% and hit anywhere near 35% from 3, he can be a solid rotation big. He's a guy I believe will be better in a structured system than the mess that SL games tend to be.

* Edwards is another guy who doesn't need to be in Vegas.

* Last and certainly not least - I don't think it's hyperbole to believe that VJ has major stud potential. This is a 19-year old who paced himself, let the game come to him and never looked out of control, and when the opportunities were there showed his explosiveness. His 3-ball will get better as he works with our coaches, and he should be a foul-drawing machine before too long. He has playmaking ability as well, and should see some action at PG in certain lineups. It appears that Morey might have delivered another stud, and he might turn out to be the best of the lottery group.


VJs floor game was better than I expected. Handling the ball during a summer league game isn’t a major accomplishment, but at least he has the handle to potentially get his own shot in the NBA.

I know there are indicators of players who can be projected to be good shooters in the NBA, such as free throw rate; however, I don’t really know how strong the correlation is. I just assume anybody who puts in the work and takes instruction well has a chance to be a good shooter. His shot looked flat and lacked touch. If he can become a good shooter, he has a pretty high ceiling.
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Re: 2025 Sixers Summer League 

Post#304 » by HotelVitale » Sun Jul 6, 2025 5:29 pm

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:The fact that Edgecombe was taking and making some big shots down the stretch and into the guts of the game was awesome to see. As in...He's not afraid and he may possibly have "it."


One thing people in this board kept overlooking at draft time is that he was a top HS prospect before this year because he’d been a serious leader and winner at other levels, esp int’l ball. The emphasis was all on his role and tape from Baylor and everyone judged him as that, which is understandable but really skipped everything abojt him as a lead guy and tone setter just cuz he didn’t have that role in college.

I’m not doing a victory lap because of one good SL game but the narrative that VJ was a timid deep role player completely ignored the aspects of his personality and game that led to him being a top prospect all for years.
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Re: 2025 Sixers Summer League 

Post#305 » by Negrodamus » Sun Jul 6, 2025 5:31 pm

I also liked that VJ was talking **** to Sensabaugh. He's not a punk.
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Re: 2025 Sixers Summer League 

Post#306 » by mksp » Sun Jul 6, 2025 5:43 pm

Ace fans in shambles

VJ just looks like a different level of athlete out there. The shot will come. Hitting middies off the dribble is already something new to his bag.

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Post#307 » by Jailblazers7 » Sun Jul 6, 2025 5:51 pm

I think Ace is in for a rough year because that team is full of chuckers looking to earn a second contract.
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Post#308 » by zaz102 » Sun Jul 6, 2025 5:58 pm

If Grimes is re-signed and VJ continues to have SL games like his debut performance, would you consider playing Maxey, Grimes, and VJ all starter minutes?
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Post#309 » by sodmoraes » Sun Jul 6, 2025 6:22 pm

Ace looked rough there, but i think he will have some good games when his jumper is falling. But if he cant develop his driving game, he will have a lot of games shooting badly because of the nature of the variance of shooting.

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Re: 2025 Sixers Summer League 

Post#310 » by Iscull » Sun Jul 6, 2025 6:28 pm

sodmoraes wrote:Ace looked rough there, but i think he will have some good games when his jumper is falling. But if he cant develop his driving game, he will have a lot of games shooting badly because of the nature of the variance of shooting.

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Ace has crazy potential. It’s his attitude that will determine if he’s more Tatum than Michael Beasley.
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Re: 2025 Sixers Summer League 

Post#311 » by FireMorey » Sun Jul 6, 2025 6:30 pm

If he can't beat anyone off the dribble, his ceiling won't ever be as high as his stans project it to be. You can't be a star in the NBA having to shoot over defenders all the time and not being able to get to the rim and get easy buckets. I think he could end up being a very good player, but if he is, I think it will more likely be 3&D than premium offensive option star.
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Re: 2025 Sixers Summer League 

Post#312 » by Iverson Armband » Sun Jul 6, 2025 6:33 pm

zaz102 wrote:If Grimes is re-signed and VJ continues to have SL games like his debut performance, would you consider playing Maxey, Grimes, and VJ all starter minutes?

That should be the starting 1-3 IMO.
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Re: 2025 Sixers Summer League 

Post#313 » by Stanford » Sun Jul 6, 2025 6:34 pm

Michael Beasley was pretty much the best college player I've seen other than KD. (Back when I followed this stuff) Ace isn't half as talented as Beasley was coming out of school.
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Re: 2025 Sixers Summer League 

Post#314 » by Phillybul » Sun Jul 6, 2025 7:12 pm

Beasley was a man amongst boys in college! He was so good.
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Re: 2025 Sixers Summer League 

Post#315 » by Phillybul » Sun Jul 6, 2025 7:14 pm

Sixers need to find a PG. I don’t care if the pg can’t shoot or finish at the rim. I don’t even care if he does the Rondo where he goes to the rim has an easy layup but kicks it out instead. I tried watching the replay of that summer league game and I couldn’t. That was brutal no one could run a set lol just give me someone who has handles and can pass.
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Re: 2025 Sixers Summer League 

Post#316 » by Jailblazers7 » Sun Jul 6, 2025 8:47 pm

Ace is Rudy Gay 2.0
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Re: 2025 Sixers Summer League 

Post#317 » by HotelVitale » Sun Jul 6, 2025 9:12 pm

Jailblazers7 wrote:Ace is Rudy Gay 2.0


Rudy Gay was a top 15 or 20 scorer in the league for a while in his prime, and played a meaningful role for like 15 season. I don’t feel super down on Ace but that seems like a very very good outcome for him, if not quite a best case.
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Post#318 » by ProcessDoctor » Sun Jul 6, 2025 9:13 pm

Funny how much praise VJ is getting on the general board when 3 weeks ago the mood was "LOL the 3rd pick isn't even worth much this year!!!!"
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Re: 2025 Sixers Summer League 

Post#319 » by Mik317 » Sun Jul 6, 2025 10:22 pm

its summer league over reaction season

but kasparas is not off to a great start
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Re: 2025 Sixers Summer League 

Post#320 » by Stanford » Sun Jul 6, 2025 10:24 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:Funny how much praise VJ is getting on the general board when 3 weeks ago the mood was "LOL the 3rd pick isn't even worth much this year!!!!"


Also, where is the Don't Overthink It crowd?

I'm already starting to see plenty "so glad Ace refused to work out with us," as if that's why he fell.

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