Trade Iguodala

[dbodner]

All are players that are better than Iguodala who aren't making $11 miilion. You knew that your post was BS when you added the -ish suffix..

And there are worse players getting paid more than 11 million.

He never said every top 40 player gets paid 11 million, so I'm not sure what your point is.

[Mik317]

BACK PEDDLE POWERS ACTIVATE!!!!!!!!

bu-bu-but you told me that Iggy can be replaced by Moon, Azibuike,and Bell. SENDEM DON'T LIE TO ME!!!!

[Sixerscan]

Manu Ginoboli is top 40 and doesn't get paid $11. Tony Parker is top 40 and doesn't get paid $11.
Gerald Wallace
Josh Howard
Richard Hamilton
Tayshawn Prince
Stephen Jackson
Corey Maggette
Mike Miller
Ron Artest
Kevin Martin
David West

All are players that are better than Iguodala who aren't making $11 miilion. You knew that your post was BS when you added the -ish suffix...

Some players are underpaid. Some players are overpaid. The 40th highest paid player in the NBA this year is getting paid $11.6 million.

And that doesn't even include people like Howard, Okafor, Paul ect that are still on their rookie deals.

So we'll clarify even further: Top 40ish players among those not on their rookie deals get paid 11ish million.

[SendEm]

All are players that are better than Iguodala who aren't making $11 miilion. You knew that your post was BS when you added the -ish suffix..

And there are worse players getting paid more than 11 million.

A good GM LEARNS from other teams mistakes, NOT overpays for other teams mistakes. Overpaying a player due to worse players being overpaid is something Billy King would have done. I hope Ed Stephanski is of the mind to compare Iggy directly to players who have recently signed contracts who he is not better than.

[Mik317]

I think what he's saying is that 11 mil isn't that bad.

[SendEm]

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So we'll clarify even further: Top 40ish players among those not on their rookie deals get paid 11ish million.

No one on the list that I provided is on a rookie deal.

No one on that list that I provided is being paid $11 million.

Iggy is not clearly a better more talented player than anyone on that list.

Therefore Iggy is not worth more money than EVERYONE on that list...

[dbodner]

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A good GM LEARNS from other teams mistakes, NOT overpays for other teams mistakes. Overpaying a player due to worse players being overpaid is something Billy King would have done. I hope Ed Stephanski is of the mind to compare Iggy directly to players who have recently signed contracts who he is not better than.

You're missing Sixerscans point.

[Sixerscan]

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No one on the list that I provided is on a rookie deal.

No one on that list that I provided is being paid $11 million.

Iggy is not clearly a better more talented player than anyone on that list.

Therefore Iggy is not worth more money than EVERYONE on that list...

Most of the people on that list are underpaid. Sorry, we're not going to be that lucky. Fiddlesticks.

[SendEm]

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You're missing Sixerscans point.

The POINT is that you don't average out the bone head contracts given out by the bad GM's with the excellent value contracts given out by the good GMs. You just give thanks that you weren't the idiot GM that gave Larry Hughes a contract that pays $13.6 million in its last year.

[Mik317]

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No one on the list that I provided is on a rookie deal.

No one on that list that I provided is being paid $11 million.

Iggy is not clearly a better more talented player than anyone on that list.

Therefore Iggy is not worth more money than EVERYONE on that list...

but still it's not that bad if he get paid a little bit more than those guys, plus I could be wrong but doesn't Wallace get paid like 60 mil over 5-6 years? and Martin 55mil over 5-6? Iggy asked for like 57 over 5 so, I'm not a math major but that's not that bad a deal is it. I mean he's only getting paid liek 2mil more than Martin.....so why so mad?

[Sixerscan]

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A good GM LEARNS from other teams mistakes, NOT overpays for other teams mistakes. Overpaying a player due to worse players being overpaid is something Billy King would have done. I hope Ed Stephanski is of the mind to compare Iggy directly to players who have recently signed contracts who he is not better than.

That's actually a very good point. I hope he does so as well. If he can figure out a way to get Iggy back at less than $11 million a year that'd be awesome. Not sure if it's realistic though, since a lot of those guys didn't sign their deals when they were free agents (RFA or otherwise) So it's a different situation.

[Mik317]

where is this 11mil coming from I thought it was 10?

[SendEm]

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Sorry, we're not going to be that lucky. Fiddlesticks.

Actually I believe that we are.

Iggy already turned down the deal paying him over $11 a season. I really can't see Ed Stephanski willingly paying Andre more than Josh Howard and Kevin Martin. Billy King might have done it because he drafted Iggy and he was bad with contracts. Iggy came back this season and didn't improve upon his production. He plateaud.. A good portion of that contract he rejected was payment for his potential. He hasn't developed any since the end of last season so that potential is worth less...

[Sixerscan]

As I said, It's a different situation though. Howard and Martin got signed before they hit free agency, so their teams got a discount. Money you're not getting for 12 months is worth less than money you can get today.

[Mik317]

you may dissagree with me but I don't think he has plateaud, Iggy has added something to his game every year and this year he has added the fadeaway jumper thingy, it's a work in progress but he's added something to his game that he didn't have last year and he still hasn't hit his prime yet either. Plus while he miight be getting unfairly paid more than Martin and Howard but it won't be by much atleast not enough for it to be a problem. so yeah.

[Sixercise]

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Iggy came back this season and didn't improve upon his production. He plateaud.....He hasn't developed any since the end of last season so that potential is worth less...

*Sigh* Dude, I for one can safely say that I didn't expect Iggy to be as good as he is. To criticize him for declining since the 2nd half of last season is quite unfair to him.


Someone on this board once pointed out that Joe Smith was a big reason why Iggy had really nice numbers in the 2nd half of last season. Smith was the only big man on the team that could set effective picks. This allowed the Sixers to play pick-and-roll more effectively, opening lanes. And we all know what Iggy can do when he has an open lane.

But now that Joe Smith left, and because we have no big men who can set a good pick (think of Sammy), it's much harder for Iggy to do his thing. That's a pretty good reason why he sometimes is in a funk.

But come on, did you really think that Iggy was gonna be this good? Shoot, I'd pay him at least $10 mil per.

[SendEm]

I just thought about it, Stephanski was with NJ when they signed Carter to that extension. Iggy might just be able to get that $11+ after all.

[Mik317]

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*Sigh* Dude, I for one can safely say that I didn't expect Iggy to be as good as he is. To criticize him for declining since the 2nd half of last season is quite unfair to him.


Someone on this board once pointed out that Joe Smith was a big reason why Iggy had really nice numbers in the 2nd half of last season. Smith was the only big man on the team that could set effective picks. This allowed the Sixers to play pick-and-roll more effectively, opening lanes. And we all know what Iggy can do when he has an open lane.

But now that Joe Smith left, and because we have no big men who can set a good pick (think of Sammy), it's much harder for Iggy to do his thing. That's a pretty good reason why he sometimes is in a funk.

But come on, did you really think that Iggy was gonna be this good? Shoot, I'd pay him at least $10 mil per.

tried explaining that..........didn't get through.

[SendEm]

jiggy08 I'm not impressed by Iggy. I'm a Philadelphia sports team supporter that is tired of mediocrity. Too many Philly sports fans are in reality easily impressed and satisfied even though may boo and hiss when they disapprove. But ultimately they'll embrace bum players like Freddie Mitchell/Kyle Korver and those guys will get a key to the city if they are viewed as hard workers or made one good memorable play.

You Sixers fans should be ashamed of your love for mediocrity. Iggy is the embodiment of mediocrity. He's not amongst the best at his position and he's not amongst the worse but since he is a Philadelphia 76er he is special to Sixer's fans who will fight you tooth and nail until you acknowledge him as something special. NO! He's mediocre...

[dbodner]

BTW, some have said Iguodala can't play SG. Someone (Sixers Fixer?) even used the 82games.com breakdown to prove so. However, keep in mind this is a small sample size. In every year before this, he had both a higher personal PER, and a higher PER differential at SG than he did at SF. Surrounded by the right personnel, I have no doubt he can have similar success.

Now, who's the right personnel? Evans clearly isn't it, but we all know that. I'm not talking about a star PF, but someone with Joe Smith's skillsets clearly would help. Someone who can set a screen, hit the open J, and open up the lane. Is Thad the right SF? I'm not sure. I actually think he is. The only question really is his set jump shot, and considering he'll still only be 19 years old at the end of the year, I'm willing to give him some time and let the two of them develop, with confidence that I can sign him to a contract where he'll be tradeable if years down the line we determine him and Thad can't coexist (and Thad is the one we should keep).