sixerswillrule wrote:PhilasFinest wrote:GimmeDat wrote:I think on one hand Ball's low usage rate sounds awesome fit wise, but on the other hand, there's also the scoring issue.
Embiid will be a premier scoring option going forward, that much is for sure. Simmons, I would predict, would be a solid scoring option, but his repertoire is pretty limited at this stage.. you're going to need another major one. If Ball's your PG, you're going to need a top 2-3 option at the wing, no doubt about it. For that reason, I think Fultz is the better option fit wise (and beyond that, I think he's just far and away the best prospect as of now).
Isn't Simmons pretty much a wing though??? I mean, sure he can play the PF spot, but he's likely going to spend a majority of his time on offense on the perimeter handling the basketball and driving.
Ball can shoot from 3, has size and is also a playmaker. If he doesn't need the ball in his hands a ton to rack up assists/points, I see that as a plus with someone like Simmons/Embiid who are likely higher usage players. I agree you will need scoring from the other 2 spots (either 2/3 or 2/4) but I dont think you need "top 3 options" at the wing. You get decent shooters/scorers at those spots and i think you could have a really solid core right there.
Embiid is going to be your #1 option in terms of scoring on offense, and he's a do it all type of scorer. Simmons is going to get to the line, drive and create a ton of looks for the surrounding players. If Ball is a 40% shooter from 3, I see no reason why he can't contribute scoring the ball. Run him off the line and he can easily take it off the bounce and find the open man.
We'll need a perimeter player with Simmons who will be able to consistently penetrate and draw double teams. Simmons might only be a 16-18 PPG scorer, more of a #3 option than a #2. I see Ball as being too pass-oriented and not skilled enough as a scorer to be a great fit. Not a bad fit, just not the best one. And even ignoring fit, Fultz has the higher ceiling too. Give me Fultz.
Isn't that pretty much Simmons??? He can penetrate and score, get to the line or find the open man. Embiid also commands a double team in the post. I fail to see why we need a ball dominant guard who can penetrate at will with Simmons/Embiid...id think someone who can knock down open shots would be a bigger need.
Not doubting Fultz as a player, he's electric and id take him on the Sixers in a heartbeat....im just choosing not to attach myself to a player thats likely to be the #1 overall pick. For Simmons to be a star, he is going to have the ball in his hands a TON. Its his biggest strength....Having a lower usage elite playmaker, who can also shoot/score from outside is IMO, more complimentary to someone like Simmons/Embiid... Ball would be a fantastic addition to this core.
If we land #1 in May, I guess Id be more than willing to take Fultz, but I feel Ball is arguably the best FIT for the Sixers in this draft class.
