Sixers Post Mortem Talk (Where Do We Go From Here?)

[Iverson Armband]

Embiid had a down series and an all time stinker in game 7. Yet, he still performed more consistently than Tatum, who had 3 of the worst 1st halfs in playoff history, and was getting his **** pushed in by Embiid over and over again. Tatum then got some balls and brought in the 4th quarter of game 6 and had an all time game 7. That's the definition of inconsistent. Embiid just came up small, it's a little different. Embiid's cieling is immensely higher than Tatums. Tatum isn't nearly as gifted as Embiid and will never be in the MVP conversation trully. If Embiid was even 80% of regular season Embiid we would have won this in 5 or 6. He wasn't and that's on him. Embiid's issue is all mental.

Cool. Joel can continue to be in the regular season “MVP” conversation. I’ll take the guy who can give me 50 and step up to the plate when it matters most.

This is how the anti-Jimmy guys on here thought back then as well. They figured he wasn't truly a top 10 guy and was "getting old" (guy was turning 30 in 2019 lol). Give the ball to the guy who can will his team into the next round, never mopes. Holds others accountable. Joel is immensely talented and I'm not crying for at trade today, but he STILL has so much maturing left to do and is pushing 30.

Tatum had 51 points and 13 rebounds. Embiid and Harden couldn’t even match that total combined and you have people saying Embiid is better lol.

If by the grace of god they had beaten the Celtics, Jimmy was waiting in the weeds, licking his chops to kick Embiid’s ass again. No way we were making the finals with this team.

[FlyingArrow]

Do you guys know that Rivers has now lost 10 game 7's? Nobody else has more than 5.

At what point is enough finally enough?

Should've been Atlanta.

[Hipster Doofus]

Rivers has to go. If a championship team like the Bucks got rid of their coach because they lost in the first round and we keep ours who is stuck on round 2 for years, it makes no sense. Suns got rid of theirs and they got Booker and Durant on the same team. Get rid of Glen. Lots of options out there lately, or promote Sam Cassell.

I don't know about you, but Harden doesn't regularly and consistently pass the eye test for me, especially in big games. He hadn't in past years as a Rocket, and he still doesn't today. This isn't recency bias related to the last couple of games. No. This relates to the overall picture of him as a player. I wouldn't lose sleep if he left to greener pastures.

I want PJ back. I loooooove Maxey.

I'm not ready for any clear thoughts on Embiid yet.

We don't even have any relevant picks in the draft ffs.

[okboomer]

I want them to trade embiid but I wouldn't mind them bringing in another coach and see how it goes as well as Maxeys continued development. I do think next season will be the last for Joel though barring a major break through in the playoffs.

[snoopdogg88]

I’m still not clear on how involved Morey was in the hiring of Doc with the timing of his hiring coming after.

But I know the guy spent the last 3 years publicly gaslighting the fans that we were all stupid and Doc was a fantastic coach.

So basically f Morey too. He’s just as much a part of the problem. They can both go collect their 10 million a year together elsewhere.

[Arsenal]

We should resign Shake to a reasonable deal (4 yrs / $32M?) then let him start next to Maxey and put up big numbers next year. Pump and dump by creating an asset out of nothing.

Basically the Morey formula from Houston, inflating asset value then flipping when a star comes available.

[snoopdogg88]

Embiid might have the least trade value of any reigning MVP in sports history lmao.

Who is giving up the grandfather package for this guy right now? Who would even be interested?

[TYO23]

You trade Embiid for picks and pieces and rebuild, simple as that. Right now you won't get a first option on offense to pair with Embiid, so makes no sense to keep trying to win with him.

who has picks and pieces that are also close enough to contention to want to trade for Biid?

The Heat (Bam and stuff... sure I guess but that team will be constantly in the playoff minimum so the picks won't be great). The Warriors (Poole or Klays terrible contract and Kuminga; again perennial playoff team too). The Suns (Ayton and the corpse of CP3 If you thinkl Biid is soft...just wait for Ayton...and they have no picks)?

As always people seem to forget that there are two sides to a trade... I just don't think the Gobert package is available and it will be our luck that we don't get any good prospects back and all the picks are trash while Biid and his new team goes further than before lol.

I am Mr. Draft Guy too so I'd be down for it..if only so we can talk about new **** but I don't see it

Mentioned it a few pages ago but if they get some lottery luck I’d call the blazers. Shaedon/Scoot or BMiller and someone like ant along with picks package is a good deal imo.

[facothomas22]

One of the bigger problems that caused the 76ers to once again fall in the 2nd round of the playoffs is that Joel Emiid scoring numbers dropped big time from the regular season to the playoffs. He scored 33 points per game in the regular season and that averaged dropped to 23.7 points per game in the playoffs. If Emiid put anywhere close to his regular season numbers, this wouldn't even be a conversation since the 76ers would've advanced. Far as where the 76ers go from here, I don't know.at this point. We know that Doc Rivers days as the 76ers coach are done. I wouldn't mind a sign and trade deal for James Harden. It might even be beneficial. I would say trade Tobias Harris for depth or trade Tobias Harris + Tyrese Maxey for a star, but I wonder how much of a difference will it make if Emiid continue to underachieve in the playoffs every year.

[snoopdogg88]

We should resign Shake to a reasonable deal (4 yrs / $32M?) then let him start next to Maxey and put up big numbers next year. Pump and dump by creating an asset out of nothing.

Basically the Morey formula from Houston, inflating asset value then flipping when a star comes available.

Re-sign Shake?

For the love of god can we move on from these loser bench pieces that’ve been here forever and contribute nothing like Korkmaz and Shake.

Absolutely no one else in the league sees Shake Milton as anything but a bottom of the bench player.

[facothomas22]

You trade Embiid for picks and pieces and rebuild, simple as that. Right now you won't get a first option on offense to pair with Embiid, so makes no sense to keep trying to win with him.

I'm not sure I want to go through another rebuild. Those years in the mid 2010s were awful and unwatchable. Sure Emiid is valuable enough to point we can get a historic package for him, so that could be avoided. However more often than not, rebuilds tend to fail.

[Slacktard]

One of the bigger problems that caused the 76ers to once again fall in the 2nd round of the playoffs is that Joel Emiid scoring numbers dropped big time from the regular season to the playoffs. He scored 33 points per game in the regular season and that averaged dropped to 23.7 points per game in the playoffs. If Emiid put anywhere close to his regular season numbers, this wouldn't even be a conversation since the 76ers would've advanced. Far as where the 76ers go from here, I don't know.at this point. We know that Doc Rivers days as the 76ers coach are done. I wouldn't mind a sign and trade deal for James Harden. It might even be beneficial. I would say trade Tobias Harris for depth or trade Tobias Harris + Tyrese Maxey for a star, but I wonder how much of a difference will it make if Emiid continue to underachieve in the playoffs every year.

You wanna improve the chances of Embiid actually being healthy for the playoffs. Don't have him start his season until after the all-star break.

Post all-star break February = beginning of NBA season late Oct
March = November
April = December
May = January

6 out of 7 of Embiid's career player of the month awards are Dec+January.

Obviously this isn't going to happen, but legitimately I think this is probably the only actual thing that could be done to increase the odds you have a healthy/fully functional Embiid for April/May/early June(NBA finals)

[Negrodamus]

I’m still not clear on how involved Morey was in the hiring of Doc with the timing of his hiring coming after.

But I know the guy spent the last 3 years publicly gaslighting the fans that we were all stupid and Doc was a fantastic coach.

So basically f Morey too. He’s just as much a part of the problem. They can both go collect their 10 million a year together elsewhere.

Morey is the Manchurian Candidate for Harden. He brought all his friends from Houston over. Next will be his former coach. Maybe we'll trade Maxey for Chris Paul to try that experiment again lol. Westbrook will be available in free agency!

[Slacktard]

I’m still not clear on how involved Morey was in the hiring of Doc with the timing of his hiring coming after.

But I know the guy spent the last 3 years publicly gaslighting the fans that we were all stupid and Doc was a fantastic coach.

So basically f Morey too. He’s just as much a part of the problem. They can both go collect their 10 million a year together elsewhere.

Morey is the Manchurian Candidate for Harden. He brought all his friends from Houston over. Next will be his former coach. Maybe we'll trade Maxey for Chris Paul to try that experiment again lol. Westbrook will be available in free agency!

Let me surround you with all the other losers who couldn't get over the hump while you played together in Houston, but who are now 5 years older. Sounds like a formula for success doesn't it?

[Sixersftw]

You wanna improve the chances of Embiid actually being healthy for the playoffs. Don't have him start his season until after the all-star break.

This **** is so galaxy brained. I'm in.

[Jailblazers7]

Have Maxey work on his playmaking and run the offense through Embiid/Tyrese DHOs. Harden/Embiid PnR is fools gold because you don’t want the ball in their hands in big games. Gotta start training Tyrese to be that guy if we have any hope for what remains of the Embiid era.

I would like to see how this team fairs with a Nick Nurse or Ty Lue style tactician.

[NYSixersFan]

We should resign Shake to a reasonable deal (4 yrs / $32M?) then let him start next to Maxey and put up big numbers next year. Pump and dump by creating an asset out of nothing.

Basically the Morey formula from Houston, inflating asset value then flipping when a star comes available.

Morey has no formula. He's a fraud. Always been a fraud. His claim to fame is Harden. He's done nothing. Just another fraud in a long line of frauds in this organization.

[XtremeDunkz]

After some reflection this is my offseason wish list

Fire doc. Bring in Nurse or Monty.

Trade Tobias. Bring back a couple hungry vet role players. Preferably a ball handler and a defender

Bring back Harden for 3 or less years

Have Maxey work on counter moves. His straight line drives are useless against long defenders.

Now that Joel has his mvp, rest him whenever possible. The less wear and tear the better.

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[ProcessDoctor]

What I want to happen: let Harden go in a S&T, take a year "off", and sign someone FA 2024

What I think will happen: Harden re-signed, Maxey traded for a 3rd star

[FlyingArrow]

Embiid might have the least trade value of any reigning MVP in sports history lmao.

Who is giving up the grandfather package for this guy right now? Who would even be interested?

I'm sure plenty of GMs believe they can unlock Embiid's championship with the right pieces and coach.