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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#321 » by PhillyFan11 » Thu Nov 23, 2023 8:17 pm

Sixers out- Tobi, House, Korkmaz, ‘26 OKC 1st, and ‘24 2nd
Sixers in- DeRozan, Caruso and Garry Harris Jr

Bulls out- Lavine, DeRozan, and Caruso
Bulls in- Tobi, Fultz, Issac, Korkmaz, ‘24 top 20 protected 1st(via Orl) ‘25 Den 1st(Via Orl), ‘26 OKC 1st(via Phil), ‘24 2nd(Via Phil), ‘25 2nd(Via Orl)

Magic out- Fultz, Issac, Harris Jr, ‘24 top 20 protected 1st, ‘25 Den 1st, and ‘25 2nd
Magic in- Lavine and House

Maxey-Melton-Pat Bev
Caruso-Garry Harris Jr-Springer
DeRozan-Oubre-Kmart Jr
Batum-Roco-Morris
Embiid-Reed-Bamba
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Post#322 » by the_process » Thu Nov 23, 2023 8:28 pm

I could see the Sixers just dumping Korkmaz to avoid the tax and doing nothing else. Reed is not guaranteed if they lose in the 1st round.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#323 » by mjkvol » Thu Nov 23, 2023 9:28 pm

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PhillyFan11 wrote:My biggest fear is that Morey won’t pull the trigger on any trade that doesn’t involve a star player in return.


I share this fear. Morey's been great so far, so just hoping he's blowing a bit of smoke, but it is his M.O. historically.


Agreed. Morey historically either swings big or doesn't swing. He doesn't do small improvements on the margins via trade. Hence why he tells Spike and Mike he doesn't need a backup ballhandler because they won't crack the rotation.


Happy to say I have no earthly idea who "Spike and Mike" are.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#324 » by Stanford » Thu Nov 23, 2023 9:52 pm

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I share this fear. Morey's been great so far, so just hoping he's blowing a bit of smoke, but it is his M.O. historically.


Agreed. Morey historically either swings big or doesn't swing. He doesn't do small improvements on the margins via trade. Hence why he tells Spike and Mike he doesn't need a backup ballhandler because they won't crack the rotation.


Happy to say I have no earthly idea who "Spike and Mike" are.


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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#325 » by youngcrev » Fri Nov 24, 2023 1:03 pm

PhillyFan11 wrote:Sixers out- Tobi, House, Korkmaz, ‘26 OKC 1st, and ‘24 2nd
Sixers in- DeRozan, Caruso and Garry Harris Jr

Bulls out- Lavine, DeRozan, and Caruso
Bulls in- Tobi, Fultz, Issac, Korkmaz, ‘24 top 20 protected 1st(via Orl) ‘25 Den 1st(Via Orl), ‘26 OKC 1st(via Phil), ‘24 2nd(Via Phil), ‘25 2nd(Via Orl)

Magic out- Fultz, Issac, Harris Jr, ‘24 top 20 protected 1st, ‘25 Den 1st, and ‘25 2nd
Magic in- Lavine and House

Maxey-Melton-Pat Bev
Caruso-Garry Harris Jr-Springer
DeRozan-Oubre-Kmart Jr
Batum-Roco-Morris
Embiid-Reed-Bamba


I'm not sure I'd value DeRozan more than Tobias for this team. He's got more on ball value, but less off ball and on defense. On the flip side, if the Bulls are blowing it up, they'd likely just view Tobias as a large expiring rather than a guy that helps them. Which means this is light on value for them, since Caruso probably nets more than that pick on his own.

Unpairing the LaVine and DeRozan/Caruso deals here, I think exprings (Morris/Covington/House/Korkmaz) and 2 1st round picks for DeRozan/Caruso could be interesting for both sides. Bulls get a couple picks and some guys that they don't have to worry about screwing up their tank. Sixers add 2 high end rotation pieces without losing anyone important. They also maintain the flexibility of being a cap space team if they choose.

Maxey
Melton (Caruso finishes game)
DeRozan
Harris
Embiid
Bench: Caruso, Oubre, Batum, Reed

Might be too many hesitant shooters to function at the highest level, but there's a lot of talent there.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#326 » by mjkvol » Fri Nov 24, 2023 3:30 pm

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PhillyFan11 wrote:Sixers out- Tobi, House, Korkmaz, ‘26 OKC 1st, and ‘24 2nd
Sixers in- DeRozan, Caruso and Garry Harris Jr

Bulls out- Lavine, DeRozan, and Caruso
Bulls in- Tobi, Fultz, Issac, Korkmaz, ‘24 top 20 protected 1st(via Orl) ‘25 Den 1st(Via Orl), ‘26 OKC 1st(via Phil), ‘24 2nd(Via Phil), ‘25 2nd(Via Orl)

Magic out- Fultz, Issac, Harris Jr, ‘24 top 20 protected 1st, ‘25 Den 1st, and ‘25 2nd
Magic in- Lavine and House

Maxey-Melton-Pat Bev
Caruso-Garry Harris Jr-Springer
DeRozan-Oubre-Kmart Jr
Batum-Roco-Morris
Embiid-Reed-Bamba


I'm not sure I'd value DeRozan more than Tobias for this team. He's got more on ball value, but less off ball and on defense. On the flip side, if the Bulls are blowing it up, they'd likely just view Tobias as a large expiring rather than a guy that helps them. Which means this is light on value for them, since Caruso probably nets more than that pick on his own.

Unpairing the LaVine and DeRozan/Caruso deals here, I think exprings (Morris/Covington/House/Korkmaz) and 2 1st round picks for DeRozan/Caruso could be interesting for both sides. Bulls get a couple picks and some guys that they don't have to worry about screwing up their tank. Sixers add 2 high end rotation pieces without losing anyone important. They also maintain the flexibility of being a cap space team if they choose.

Maxey
Melton (Caruso finishes game)
DeRozan
Harris
Embiid
Bench: Caruso, Oubre, Batum, Reed

Might be too many hesitant shooters to function at the highest level, but there's a lot of talent there.


Only problem with that setup is we would get crushed on the boards and be incredibly small and defensively challenged.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#327 » by youngcrev » Fri Nov 24, 2023 5:58 pm

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mjkvol wrote:
youngcrev wrote:
PhillyFan11 wrote:Sixers out- Tobi, House, Korkmaz, ‘26 OKC 1st, and ‘24 2nd
Sixers in- DeRozan, Caruso and Garry Harris Jr

Bulls out- Lavine, DeRozan, and Caruso
Bulls in- Tobi, Fultz, Issac, Korkmaz, ‘24 top 20 protected 1st(via Orl) ‘25 Den 1st(Via Orl), ‘26 OKC 1st(via Phil), ‘24 2nd(Via Phil), ‘25 2nd(Via Orl)

Magic out- Fultz, Issac, Harris Jr, ‘24 top 20 protected 1st, ‘25 Den 1st, and ‘25 2nd
Magic in- Lavine and House

Maxey-Melton-Pat Bev
Caruso-Garry Harris Jr-Springer
DeRozan-Oubre-Kmart Jr
Batum-Roco-Morris
Embiid-Reed-Bamba


I'm not sure I'd value DeRozan more than Tobias for this team. He's got more on ball value, but less off ball and on defense. On the flip side, if the Bulls are blowing it up, they'd likely just view Tobias as a large expiring rather than a guy that helps them. Which means this is light on value for them, since Caruso probably nets more than that pick on his own.

Unpairing the LaVine and DeRozan/Caruso deals here, I think exprings (Morris/Covington/House/Korkmaz) and 2 1st round picks for DeRozan/Caruso could be interesting for both sides. Bulls get a couple picks and some guys that they don't have to worry about screwing up their tank. Sixers add 2 high end rotation pieces without losing anyone important. They also maintain the flexibility of being a cap space team if they choose.

Maxey
Melton (Caruso finishes game)
DeRozan
Harris
Embiid
Bench: Caruso, Oubre, Batum, Reed

Might be too many hesitant shooters to function at the highest level, but there's a lot of talent there.


Only problem with that setup is we would get crushed on the boards and be incredibly small and defensively challenged.


Embiid gives you a decent floor on both of those things when he's out there, regardless of who he's with. Shooting feels like the bigger concern to me.

You could also play around with the lineup. Maybe Nurse could convince DeRozan to take a 6th man role and you keep your current lineup intact (whether that be the Batum or Oubre version). Maybe Caruso is in there for Melton. I think that top 9 mixes and matches pretty well together and gives you the opportunity for a lot of different looks.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#328 » by mjkvol » Fri Nov 24, 2023 6:31 pm

youngcrev wrote:
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mjkvol wrote:
youngcrev wrote:
I'm not sure I'd value DeRozan more than Tobias for this team. He's got more on ball value, but less off ball and on defense. On the flip side, if the Bulls are blowing it up, they'd likely just view Tobias as a large expiring rather than a guy that helps them. Which means this is light on value for them, since Caruso probably nets more than that pick on his own.

Unpairing the LaVine and DeRozan/Caruso deals here, I think exprings (Morris/Covington/House/Korkmaz) and 2 1st round picks for DeRozan/Caruso could be interesting for both sides. Bulls get a couple picks and some guys that they don't have to worry about screwing up their tank. Sixers add 2 high end rotation pieces without losing anyone important. They also maintain the flexibility of being a cap space team if they choose.

Maxey
Melton (Caruso finishes game)
DeRozan
Harris
Embiid
Bench: Caruso, Oubre, Batum, Reed

Might be too many hesitant shooters to function at the highest level, but there's a lot of talent there.


Only problem with that setup is we would get crushed on the boards and be incredibly small and defensively challenged.


Embiid gives you a decent floor on both of those things when he's out there, regardless of who he's with. Shooting feels like the bigger concern to me.

You could also play around with the lineup. Maybe Nurse could convince DeRozan to take a 6th man role and you keep your current lineup intact (whether that be the Batum or Oubre version). Maybe Caruso is in there for Melton. I think that top 9 mixes and matches pretty well together and gives you the opportunity for a lot of different looks.


Yeah, an ocasional bench unit of DeRozan/Oubre/Maxey/Springer/Reed would be fun to watch.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#329 » by PhillyNj » Sat Nov 25, 2023 1:46 pm

PhillyFan11 wrote:Sixers out- Tobi, House, Korkmaz, ‘26 OKC 1st, and ‘24 2nd
Sixers in- DeRozan, Caruso and Garry Harris Jr

Bulls out- Lavine, DeRozan, and Caruso
Bulls in- Tobi, Fultz, Issac, Korkmaz, ‘24 top 20 protected 1st(via Orl) ‘25 Den 1st(Via Orl), ‘26 OKC 1st(via Phil), ‘24 2nd(Via Phil), ‘25 2nd(Via Orl)

Magic out- Fultz, Issac, Harris Jr, ‘24 top 20 protected 1st, ‘25 Den 1st, and ‘25 2nd
Magic in- Lavine and House

Maxey-Melton-Pat Bev
Caruso-Garry Harris Jr-Springer
DeRozan-Oubre-Kmart Jr
Batum-Roco-Morris
Embiid-Reed-Bamba

I hate this trade for the Sixers. At this point Tobias is a much better player than Derozen . I’m a hard no. This doesn’t increase the odds at a championship.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#330 » by the_process » Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:06 pm

Melton and Morris to Miami
Jones and Wright to Philly
Robinson, MIA 2027 lotto protected 2027 1st (becomes two 2nds immediately if not conveyed), and two PHI 2nds to WSH
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#331 » by youngcrev » Mon Nov 27, 2023 1:43 pm

the_process wrote:Melton and Morris to Miami
Jones and Wright to Philly
Robinson, MIA 2027 lotto protected 2027 1st (becomes two 2nds immediately if not conveyed), and two PHI 2nds to WSH


I don't think Miami can take on that much salary in a deal. I also don't think they'd be willing to trade a 1st for that. I also don't see why they wouldn't just do a deal straight up with Washington. Jones feels like a better fit there than Melton.
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Post#332 » by the_process » Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:18 pm

youngcrev wrote:
the_process wrote:Melton and Morris to Miami
Jones and Wright to Philly
Robinson, MIA 2027 lotto protected 2027 1st (becomes two 2nds immediately if not conveyed), and two PHI 2nds to WSH


I don't think Miami can take on that much salary in a deal. I also don't think they'd be willing to trade a 1st for that. I also don't see why they wouldn't just do a deal straight up with Washington. Jones feels like a better fit there than Melton.


Miami has a 9.4 TPE from moving Oladipo.

I feel Melton goes better in Miami than Jones, but maybe that's just me.

If not Miami, there's gotta be a team who would give up a protected 1st for Melton.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#333 » by youngcrev » Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:38 pm

the_process wrote:
youngcrev wrote:
the_process wrote:Melton and Morris to Miami
Jones and Wright to Philly
Robinson, MIA 2027 lotto protected 2027 1st (becomes two 2nds immediately if not conveyed), and two PHI 2nds to WSH


I don't think Miami can take on that much salary in a deal. I also don't think they'd be willing to trade a 1st for that. I also don't see why they wouldn't just do a deal straight up with Washington. Jones feels like a better fit there than Melton.


Miami has a 9.4 TPE from moving Oladipo.

I feel Melton goes better in Miami than Jones, but maybe that's just me.

If not Miami, there's gotta be a team who would give up a protected 1st for Melton.


Maybe someone would.

Honestly, I think we'd probably be one of the few teams that would value Melton more than Tyus since he's a far better fit with Maxey, and that feels more important than the 10 minutes per game he's not on the floor.

If there's a first for Melton deal out there, that may make sense as part of a bigger deal for a better target.
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Post#334 » by the_process » Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:59 pm

youngcrev wrote:
the_process wrote:
youngcrev wrote:
I don't think Miami can take on that much salary in a deal. I also don't think they'd be willing to trade a 1st for that. I also don't see why they wouldn't just do a deal straight up with Washington. Jones feels like a better fit there than Melton.


Miami has a 9.4 TPE from moving Oladipo.

I feel Melton goes better in Miami than Jones, but maybe that's just me.

If not Miami, there's gotta be a team who would give up a protected 1st for Melton.


Maybe someone would.

Honestly, I think we'd probably be one of the few teams that would value Melton more than Tyus since he's a far better fit with Maxey, and that feels more important than the 10 minutes per game he's not on the floor.

If there's a first for Melton deal out there, that may make sense as part of a bigger deal for a better target.


The minutes load Nurse is allocating is a whole other issue.

But even if they keep their powder dry for star hunting... for this season they need to upgrade Melton and Beverley. And Tobias should an opportunity present itself (but it probably won't).

EDIT: Just feel I should add Lauri Markkanen's name here.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#335 » by youngcrev » Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:37 pm

the_process wrote:
youngcrev wrote:
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Miami has a 9.4 TPE from moving Oladipo.

I feel Melton goes better in Miami than Jones, but maybe that's just me.

If not Miami, there's gotta be a team who would give up a protected 1st for Melton.


Maybe someone would.

Honestly, I think we'd probably be one of the few teams that would value Melton more than Tyus since he's a far better fit with Maxey, and that feels more important than the 10 minutes per game he's not on the floor.

If there's a first for Melton deal out there, that may make sense as part of a bigger deal for a better target.


The minutes load Nurse is allocating is a whole other issue.

But even if they keep their powder dry for star hunting... for this season they need to upgrade Melton and Beverley. And Tobias should an opportunity present itself (but it probably won't).


Melton's fine. Good 3 and D role player that's found his shot again after a rough start. I wish he was bigger, but if he was, he'd be a major money player. I also wish he had some level of playmaking skills, but again, he's a role player.

I do think they need to do something to get a 2nd unit playmaker in here, since Melton clearly can't fill that role. If they're dealing Melton for that player it needs to be a guy capable of playing big minutes with Maxey though.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#336 » by the_process » Tue Nov 28, 2023 4:25 pm

Morris and a 2nd for Fultz? A couple 2nds?

Don't know if Orlando goes for that, but they clearly don't need him and have moved on. I do know there are Sixers fans who would revolt :lol:
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Post#337 » by the_process » Tue Nov 28, 2023 6:52 pm

Harris and PHI 2026 top 7 protected 1st to POR
Grant and Melton to SAC
Barnes, Huerter, and Robert Williams to PHI
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#338 » by Wilfried » Tue Nov 28, 2023 7:16 pm

the_process wrote:Harris and PHI 2026 top 7 protected 1st to POR
Grant and Melton to SAC
Barnes, Huerter, and Robert Williams to PHI


That trade would really make us worse (Williams is injured I thought)

In a very low key trade, I would like to get us Aaron Holiday (as a future replacement for Pat Bev). Guy is playing incredible D
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Post#339 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Tue Nov 28, 2023 7:23 pm

My God, trading Melton would be just incredibly stupid. I mean unless he's involved for a deal that brings us back a star I think we need to just hold onto him.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#340 » by the_process » Thu Nov 30, 2023 12:07 am

Deadline deal:

Morris, Korkmaz, and House for Josh Hart and Evan Fournier

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