Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3

[Mik317]

Looks like Edwards' biggest problem is being out of shape. Hopefully we get something like "Heat Culture" going here to get him in top condition.

...hard to do that when your star is also often out of shape lol

[LeonJordanJr24]

Looks like Edwards' biggest problem is being out of shape. Hopefully we get something like "Heat Culture" going here to get him in top condition.

Philly cheese burger Lowry as his mentor

[brannigan73]

Hope still springs eternal for some of you guys. My feeling is McCain is likely a decent backup PG. Max potential is a decent sixth man scoring guard. The other two guys are no hopers imo. Considering how much Mikal Bridges cost and the fact that PG, Butler, and Lebron James look to be off the table this feels like Brandon Ingram and a couple of new roleplayers plus Batum, Oubre, Melton (no one will want to pay him much because of the back)and Lowry coming back. In short not nearly enough.

[LeonJordanJr24]

Oubre,Batum,Lowry after that get some new pieces ...

[76ciology]

From what I’ve observed, the best way to run a dribble-drive offense is with two versatile combo guards. Nick Nurse employs this strategy with the Raptors' backcourt, which might explain why Hield wasn’t as effective on our team.

I expect McCain to play alongside Maxey, as McCain has the strength to fill the shooting guard role in Nurse’s system. Therefore, I foresee McCain starting with Maxey. McCain could eventually evolve into a hybrid of Buddy Hield and Kyle Lowry.

[76ciology]

Our franchise's cap space isn’t sufficient to sign a star, as it takes more than just money—lifestyle and tax breaks are also crucial factors. However, we can overpay for borderline stars or high-level starters.

If we’re after star-caliber players, we need to trade for them.

The good news is we have options. We can trade for a star depending on what’s asked of us. We can sign multiple borderline stars or high-level starters. Moreover, with an MVP-caliber player and a top 30 player in Maxey, we’re already talented. We just need the right structure for them.

If we’re pursuing non-star options, we need to identify players like Porzingis or Derrick White. Recently, players such as Caruso and Avdija were traded and could have been ideal targets. We can use our cap space, or a combination of cap space and picks, to acquire 2-3 such players. This strategy would make us as competitive as the Celtics.

[sixers hoops]

Lauri Markkanen Revisited


1. Trade the rights to Jarred McCain, 2026 OKC 1st, 2028 LAC 1st, 2029 PHI 1st (w/ LAC swap), 2026 PHI 1st swap, 2028 PHI 1st swap, 2030 PHI 1st swap for Lauri Markkanen
2. Sign Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, Kyle Anderson, and Naji Marshall with remaining cap space (~$42 mil)
3. Sign Kelly Oubre with the room exception
4. Sign Kyle Lowry, Robert Covington, Dario Saric, and Andre Drummond to vet mins


Maxey/Lowry/(UDFA)
KCP/Marshall/Edwards
Anderson/Oubre/Council
Markkanen/Saric/Covington
Embiid/Drummond/Bona

I doubt that is enough to get Markkanen. We don’t even know if they like McCain. Ainge prob prefers a pick he can make the selection himself or trade. The OKC pick is going to be one of the last picks in the round. The swaps prob don’t have massive value. Three firsts, a player that prob doesn’t have a ton of value to Utah, and some swaps prob isn’t enticing after what Bridges fetched.

[76ciology]

After the draft, I believe Jalen Smith becomes an even more solid free agent pick-up. He would complement Embiid and Bona well. It seems he spent most of his minutes playing alongside either Myles Turner or Toppin, which demonstrates his ability to fit into a lineup with other bigs.

Having Jalen Smith and Embiid or Bona, allows us to play Maxey/McCain backcourt with less size issues.

Cherry on top would be adding Ingram or George at SF.

[SixthStreet]

I think it seems like Morey is punting until the next opportunity to get a star, since this offseason it seems to be closed, but I don't really see it as punting.

He's going to have to spend $60m in free agent signings and despite his star chasing he's proven to be adept at identifying young vets who can be useful on Embiid-centric teams. I think Morey will view those signings as trade-able contracts from day 1, but I think it will also be guys who will be given the chance to show that star chasing may not be necessary.

He will sign young ascending guys to their second contracts as those are most often apt to provide surplus value. My favorite guys are Jalen Smith and Naji Marshall. I estimate that to take $35m combined. That leaves $25m to play with. Maybe split that in two or spend it all on KCP. I'd probably go in a different direction than KCP as I'm not sure that contract would age well. Maybe you don't like Marshall and Smith so pick your own second contract guys. There should be three of them that plug and play into the rotation.

I assume Oubre comes back for the room exception, Lowry for the vet minimum and Melton on a team friendly deal to maintain Bird rights next offseason. If I have to eat into the cap space for Batum, goodbye. Otherwise the minimum is fine.

I think that's a lot better team than this season right there and if Smith and Marshall make leaps you might be in real contention without a trade and you still have the assets. Morey would view it as a bridge team to the next star but I would think more of it than that.

[76ciology]

I think David Jones and Justin Edwards were drafted as backup options in case Jared McCain doesn’t pan out and to serve as backups for either Maxey or McCain. It seems we're planning to use our cap space and assets to strengthen the SF and PF positions.

[76ciology]

With Maxey, Embiid, McCain, Bona, and Oubre, are we just a trade for Jerami Grant, Brandon Ingram, or John Collins and the signing of Miles Bridges, Jalen Smith, or Naji Marshall away from being a contender?

Would adding a trio of Naji Marshall, Miles Bridges, and Jalen Smith be enough to make us contenders?

Maxey/Lowry?
McCain/Ricky Council/David Jones
Naji Marshall/Oubre
Miles Bridges/Jalen Smith
Joel Embiid/Bona

[sixers4real]

I think it seems like Morey is punting until the next opportunity to get a star, since this offseason it seems to be closed, but I don't really see it as punting.

Why do you think that way?
I think there is still a chance that one of Ingram/Butler/George will be Sixer in the next 3-4 days.

[sixers4real]

With Maxey, Embiid, McCain, Bona, and Oubre, are we just a trade for Jerami Grant, Brandon Ingram, or John Collins and the signing of Miles Bridges, Jalen Smith, or Naji Marshall away from being a contender?

Would adding a trio of Naji Marshall, Miles Bridges, and Jalen Smith be enough to make us contenders?

Maxey/Lowry?
McCain/Ricky Council/David Jones
Naji Marshall/Oubre
Miles Bridges/Jalen Smith
Joel Embiid/Bona

This is still a second round exit team to me and I think Morey will do better

[LeonJordanJr24]

With Maxey, Embiid, McCain, Bona, and Oubre, are we just a trade for Jerami Grant, Brandon Ingram, or John Collins and the signing of Miles Bridges, Jalen Smith, or Naji Marshall away from being a contender?

Would adding a trio of Naji Marshall, Miles Bridges, and Jalen Smith be enough to make us contenders?

Maxey/Lowry?
McCain/Ricky Council/David Jones
Naji Marshall/Oubre
Miles Bridges/Jalen Smith
Joel Embiid/Bona

This is still a second round exit team to me and I think Morey will do better

We ain't getting nothin lol why we acting all entitled and picky lol

[youngcrev]

"We love Paul," Frank said after the Clippers selected Minnesota guard Cam Christie with the 46th pick in the second round. "We very much want to retain Paul, but we also very much understand and respect the fact this is a business.

"We hope Paul's decision is to be here. He's been awesome. He's been an All-Star. He's one of the best two-way players in the league. He's a terrific person. He's got great family, so we hope he's here but also respect the fact that if he chooses to opt out, that's his choice. He's earned it and we'll see how things play out."

I'm not convinced this Paul George thing is dead. The Clippers don't seem like they're budging on the contract. Maybe he just decides to take less since that's where he wants to be, or maybe he goes the opt in and trade route, but Frank specifically mentions opting out there.

I don't think it's happening, I just don't think it's dead.

[76Love]

I like the idea of Edwards but I do worry that being in his hometown is the last thing he needs to get his sh*t together.

Don't do that

He spent his whole life here and never has gotten in trouble. He's a good kid that comes from a good family

The only thing that would stop Edwards is himself

Didn’t mean to suggest he will get in trouble or anything like that. Just that if work ethic is a concern having all your childhood friends around to distract you isn’t always the best thing.

Being around his family and friends will give him a lot of stability and keep him grounded

Signing here is most likely the best thing for him and I wouldn't be surprised if Rich Paul told teams not to draft him just like he did with Livingston the draft prior

[Foshan]

With Maxey, Embiid, McCain, Bona, and Oubre, are we just a trade for Jerami Grant, Brandon Ingram, or John Collins and the signing of Miles Bridges, Jalen Smith, or Naji Marshall away from being a contender?

Would adding a trio of Naji Marshall, Miles Bridges, and Jalen Smith be enough to make us contenders?

Maxey/Lowry?
McCain/Ricky Council/David Jones
Naji Marshall/Oubre
Miles Bridges/Jalen Smith
Joel Embiid/Bona

This is still a second round exit team to me and I think Morey will do better

Still would like to see us go big on the wings size wise, but not with an old guy. I'm just randomly guessing, but i feel like Toppin is headed toward a Toby type curve/player. Which if we could lock him up on a deal under 20, would be an okay price for a Toby type player.

I think PWill or Marshall might be ready to take a leap from where they are, and *could* be guys we are happy to lock up at a reasonable deal for a few years.

I really feel like Bolbol would be one of those random unique players could be a unique tool off the bench. (especialy in lineups where we are a bit short)

Maxey / Lowry / McCain
N Marshall / Council / D Jones
PWilliams / Oubre / J Edwards
O Toppin / Batum / Bolbol
Embiid / Drummund / Bona

[ProcessDoctor]

Lauri Markkanen Revisited


1. Trade the rights to Jarred McCain, 2026 OKC 1st, 2028 LAC 1st, 2029 PHI 1st (w/ LAC swap), 2026 PHI 1st swap, 2028 PHI 1st swap, 2030 PHI 1st swap for Lauri Markkanen
2. Sign Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, Kyle Anderson, and Naji Marshall with remaining cap space (~$42 mil)
3. Sign Kelly Oubre with the room exception
4. Sign Kyle Lowry, Robert Covington, Dario Saric, and Andre Drummond to vet mins


Maxey/Lowry/(UDFA)
KCP/Marshall/Edwards
Anderson/Oubre/Council
Markkanen/Saric/Covington
Embiid/Drummond/Bona

I doubt that is enough to get Markkanen. We don’t even know if they like McCain. Ainge prob prefers a pick he can make the selection himself or trade. The OKC pick is going to be one of the last picks in the round. The swaps prob don’t have massive value. Three firsts, a player that prob doesn’t have a ton of value to Utah, and some swaps prob isn’t enticing after what Bridges fetched.

Yea I think we'd have to give up the 2031 1st as well. It would basically be 5 firsts and 3 swaps if we included that and McCain. Writing that sends shivers down my spine, but he is the perfect fit and his contract is so cheap that we can still flesh out the roster.

Edit: we’d actually have $47 mil left if we sent out McCain and Reed’s contract is terminated/traded. But this is one of the 2-3 scenarios I see where we become legitimate contenders this summer.

[Negrodamus]

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Morey got this guy solely so he could run an offense through the center and get a realistic look at how McCain would operate with Embiid.

[Foshan]

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Morey got this guy solely so he could run an offense through the center and get a realistic look at how McCain would operate with Embiid.

I was literally just thinking, i hope we can get a two way big that is embiid size (or close) to see if they could develop. obviously he isn't a two-way guy at this point