2013-2014 College Basketball / '14 NBA Draft Thread

[cej11]

This tweet confirms what the level headed posters have been saying.

@ChrisMannixSI
NBA execs aren't overreacting to clunkers submitted by Wiggins, Parker, McDermott. Texts I'm getting say they will have little to no impact

Who in the hell is texting Chris Mannix that info right after the game? Nba Execs? Ok Chris.

[LloydFree]

Kyle Anderson update: 15 pts, 8 rebs, 5 ast

Applications for the bandwagon are next to the door as you exit.

Has the size to play SF, and is one of the best college passers you'll ever see. I like him a lot but none of us knows what Hinkie wants. I would bet Capela fits his mold before someone like Nirkuc...

He's also willing this UCLA team to victory every game. To me, it's a no brainer that he will be, at the very least, serviceable in the NBA.

He'll be more than serviceable. John Salmons, another big college point guard, has been "serviceable" in the NBA. Kyle Anderson is bigger and MUCH better than John Salmons was in college. He is every bit as athletic as Jalen Rose was in college. He is not quite as good as Lamar Odom was, but he is in the Rose/Odom mold.

[FlightBrothers]

Aaron Gordon looks great!!


We would be lucky to get him with the Pelicans pick...

[sixers23]

Has the size to play SF, and is one of the best college passers you'll ever see. I like him a lot but none of us knows what Hinkie wants. I would bet Capela fits his mold before someone like Nirkuc...

He's also willing this UCLA team to victory every game. To me, it's a no brainer that he will be, at the very least, serviceable in the NBA.

He'll be more than serviceable. John Salmons, another big college point guard, has been "serviceable" in the NBA. Kyle Anderson is bigger and MUCH better than John Salmons was in college. He is every bit as athletic as Jalen Rose was in college. He is not quite as good as Lamar Odom was, but he is in the Rose/Odom mold.

Lamar odom is in another league athletically. Just ask why isn't a 6'9 pg ranked on anyone's top 15 there are reasons

[Negrodamus]

He's also willing this UCLA team to victory every game. To me, it's a no brainer that he will be, at the very least, serviceable in the NBA.

He'll be more than serviceable. John Salmons, another big college point guard, has been "serviceable" in the NBA. Kyle Anderson is bigger and MUCH better than John Salmons was in college. He is every bit as athletic as Jalen Rose was in college. He is not quite as good as Lamar Odom was, but he is in the Rose/Odom mold.

Lamar odom is in another league athletically. Just ask why isn't a 6'9 pg ranked on anyone's top 15 there are reasons

Lamar Odom in another league athletically? Alright...

We don't know any of these team's rankings, so that conversation is superfluous. If you're talking about draft sites, these same sites have WCS and Gary Harris ahead of him. I disagree with those rankings wholeheartedly.

[LloydFree]

He'll be more than serviceable. John Salmons, another big college point guard, has been "serviceable" in the NBA. Kyle Anderson is bigger and MUCH better than John Salmons was in college. He is every bit as athletic as Jalen Rose was in college. He is not quite as good as Lamar Odom was, but he is in the Rose/Odom mold.

Lamar odom is in another league athletically. Just ask why isn't a 6'9 pg ranked on anyone's top 15 there are reasons

First of all, that statement is incorrect. But if you get your opinion on players straight from Draftexpress or ESPN, I can see how you could make that assumption. 2nd: In case you didn't know, each site has a different niche, and one popular site tends to push European players much higher than everybody else, and much higher than they ever get drafted.

[sixers23]

Gotcha so your opinion means more than everyone else's? Lol you can rank him as high as you want that's your opinion but clearly people more in the know don't have him anywhere near that high is all

[LloydFree]

Gotcha so your opinion means more than everyone else's? Lol you can rank him as high as you want that's your opinion but clearly people more in the know don't have him anywhere near that high is all

No. My opinion means as much as yours. The difference is, I don't use other peoples' rankings to justify my opinion on players potential.

[Negrodamus]

Can you show me these "people in the know" that have Kyle Anderson ranked as low as you perceive his value to be? NBA Draftexpress has him at 19. I'd like to see other respected NBA draft scouts, or GMs, or pretty much anything other than "people in the know" as your source.

NBADraft.net has him at 9, but I know many don't deem that as a credible source.

[sixers23]

Gotcha so your opinion means more than everyone else's? Lol you can rank him as high as you want that's your opinion but clearly people more in the know don't have him anywhere near that high is all

No. My opinion means as much as yours. The difference is, I don't use other peoples' rankings to justify my opinion on players potential.

I'm not at all I'm not arguing how good u think he is or isn't I'm saying he isn't ranked as a top 15 pick right now

[Skates]

Kyle Anderson is a crafty kid with well below NBA athleticism, can't possibly play PG in the NBA, has zero lateral quickness on the perimeter and is nowhere near the athlete that Jalen Rose or Lamar Odom were. Kid has skills and guile with length, add some muscle and you get a Diaw kind of guy, but he isn't going to get a huge bandwagon following as far as the NBA draft goes.

I have no idea how the 9-15 range will eventually shake out in this draft, but Kyle Anderson will fall somewhere below that unless a lot of other guys drop.

[LloydFree]

Gotcha so your opinion means more than everyone else's? Lol you can rank him as high as you want that's your opinion but clearly people more in the know don't have him anywhere near that high is all

No. My opinion means as much as yours. The difference is, I don't use other peoples' rankings to justify my opinion on players potential.

I'm not at all I'm not arguing how good u think he is or isn't I'm saying he isn't ranked as a top 15 pick right now

Again. You are wrong. And even if every draft site on the planet said he wasn't a top 15 player, that means less than nothing to me.

If you're going to jump in a conversation and make a declarative statement that a guy should be picked in the 20's, then say who YOU think should be picked ahead of him. Don't tell me who drafx says should be picked ahead of him. I can read, just like you.

[Negrodamus]

Once again, a lot of rankings being thrown around here that are used to support arguments. None of which are backed up with sources.

And to be clear, I'm not saying he is considered a top 10 pick by teams. I am refuting that he's absolutely not a top 10-15 pick or even under consideration for it. Therefore, I don't need sources to back mine up.

In fact, I'm not even arguing that. I'm giving my opinion that I think he will be good in the NBA. Frankly, I'm not concerned what other experts are saying. I just find it incredibly annoying when someone makes a point that is completely unsubstantiated, with no source, as if their word is gospel. If there are so many experts putting Kyle Anderson in the back end of the first round, then back it up.

[Slacktard]

Kyle Anderson is a crafty kid with well below NBA athleticism, can't possibly play PG in the NBA, has zero lateral quickness on the perimeter and is nowhere near the athlete that Jalen Rose or Lamar Odom were. Kid has skills and guile with length, add some muscle and you get a Diaw kind of guy, but he isn't going to get a huge bandwagon following as far as the NBA draft goes.

I have no idea how the 9-15 range will eventually shake out in this draft, but Kyle Anderson will fall somewhere below that unless a lot of other guys drop.

I'd agree with you, but I also think all it takes is one GM. You see players go much higher than most other GMs would likely take them (See Anthony Bennet #1 pick 2013).

It happens in all sports. There were plenty of GMs who wouldn't have taken Tim Tebow in the first four rounds and yet Denver decided to take him in the 1st. Some GM could really like Anderson.

I don't think Hinkie is that guy because he wants athleticism and Anderson is about as quick laterally as George Mursesan.

[sixers23]

No. My opinion means as much as yours. The difference is, I don't use other peoples' rankings to justify my opinion on players potential.

I'm not at all I'm not arguing how good u think he is or isn't I'm saying he isn't ranked as a top 15 pick right now

Again. You are wrong. And even if every draft site on the planet said he wasn't a top 15 player, that means less than nothing to me.

If you're going to jump in a conversation and make a declarative statement that a guy should be picked in the 20's, then say who YOU think should be picked ahead of him. Don't tell me who drafx says should be picked ahead of him. I can read, just like you.

By that logic anyone you rank as a lottery prospect will go in the lottery. I'm talking about where players are projected to go and most likely will go and you're saying where u think they should. Two completely different things

[LloydFree]

I'm not at all I'm not arguing how good u think he is or isn't I'm saying he isn't ranked as a top 15 pick right now

Again. You are wrong. And even if every draft site on the planet said he wasn't a top 15 player, that means less than nothing to me.

If you're going to jump in a conversation and make a declarative statement that a guy should be picked in the 20's, then say who YOU think should be picked ahead of him. Don't tell me who drafx says should be picked ahead of him. I can read, just like you.

By that logic anyone you rank as a lottery prospect will go in the lottery. I'm talking about where players are projected to go and most likely will go and you're saying where u think they should. Two completely different things

And I'm telling you... where you are getting your information isn't the gospel. The same scource that has convinced you that Anderson will get picked in the 20's, is the same scourge that says Dario Saric will get picked in the top 10, and Saric isn't as good an athlete or player as Kyle Anderson.

I rank him high, but I NEVER said Anderson will definitely get drafted in the top 10. I said I would take him there. You are the one who declared he will be available in the 20's, because a website told you that.

[sixers23]

And you said he won't. He's more likely to be picked 20-25 then 10.

I'm done arguing that tho doesn't really matter especially in march. I actually like Anderson just not at 10. He's similar to McDermott. Not in skill set but in that they both are awful defenders and don't have a legit position at the NBA level bc of that. Both can be good if surrounded by the right team but I'd personally take someone with higher upside with the 10 or 11th pick. If we end up with Parker neither would even be considered in they case either.

[Eyeamok]

Hate to say it again but this is why kids should stay in school. Wiggins played young and immature and had no idea how to play today. A team of seniors with average ability will alway beat a team of one and dones. And these so called stars then go to the pros to learn how to play the game. Wiggins and Parkerwill be good pros eventually but they have to learn the game. When your not having your A game, you have to learn how to win. And most of these do t know how to win without their best stuff. Sort of like starting pitchers when they are young. Great arm and no brain. Then something clicks and the game itself becomes easy.

Nah they should go pro and learn how to play while getting paid millions of dollars.

And in the meantime the NBA suffers along with the fans . And the bad franchises that need immediate help then have to hope and wait to see that the 20m they are investing into their pick might actually help them. Picks today are crap shoots anymore. One and dones are not what the NBA should be about, along with college.

SJSF what is your solution to the problem as it relates from the college players point of view. If someone is offering you millions of dollars to come and play in their league (NBA) even if your skills are raw right now and the millions are guaranteed. What incentive are you going to give these kids to stay in school where they could potentially get injured and lose out on everything? How do you convince these kids to stay in school and make CBS, NIKE and the NCAA richer while they, the kids, can't cash in on any of the money that these companies, coaches and schools are making. If you had a son that had the ability to go pro would you tell him no?

Better yet if you had a child that was an amazing scholar and right out of high school some law firm came up to them and said we want you to come to our law firm Learn from the ground up you can go to law school at night, but we feel you have such great potential we don't want to lose you. Starting salary right out of high school $500,000 would you tell your son/daughter don't do it especially when they want to do it?

As a side note I am not picking a fight just asking for your opinion.

[Negrodamus]

Two potential 2nd round guys I have brought up earlier in this thread have been killing it for their teams in the tourney:

Shabazz Napier- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZFk-HXsZHY

and Jarnell Stokes: 18 and 13 vs Iowa in the play in game, 26 and 14 vs UMass, and 17, 18, and 5 in todays game again Mercer. To put it simply, he's a man.

[LloydFree]

Dario Saric will not declare for 2014 draft. Great news. 76ers won't be drafting him.

http://www.sportando.com/m/en/europe/turkey/114815/saric-will-reportedly-sign-with-efes-he-won-t-declare-for-the-draft.html