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Re: 2013-2014 College Basketball / '14 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#3361 » by Kobblehead » Thu Jun 19, 2014 8:46 pm

For me, it's either roll the dice with Embiid at #3 or trade down.
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Post#3362 » by PhilasFinest » Thu Jun 19, 2014 8:50 pm

Wonder if Marcus Smart is a under the radar sleeper for us.
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Post#3363 » by dbodner » Thu Jun 19, 2014 9:08 pm

PhilasFinest wrote:Wonder if Marcus Smart is a under the radar sleeper for us.


They're big on Marcus Smart.
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Post#3364 » by PhilasFinest » Thu Jun 19, 2014 9:13 pm

dbodner wrote:
PhilasFinest wrote:Wonder if Marcus Smart is a under the radar sleeper for us.


They're big on Marcus Smart.


He seems like a Hinkie type of prospect...scores high in several categories that "translate" to the next level well, and still possesses upside.I feel Hinkie looks for guys who excel in certain categories, and will put the coaching staff up to fixing there flaws like shooting.

If Smart developed a jumper, he could be an absolute menace at either guard spot.
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Post#3365 » by freshie2 » Thu Jun 19, 2014 9:37 pm

dbodner wrote:
PhilasFinest wrote:Wonder if Marcus Smart is a under the radar sleeper for us.


They're big on Marcus Smart.


Shoot me now...unless it is Wiggins+Smart or Parker+Smart I have no interest...
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Post#3366 » by Negrodamus » Thu Jun 19, 2014 9:43 pm

I wouldn't be terribly against a Smart/Saric and trade up in the late second round to get Adams type draft. High IQ players that move without the ball, produce damn good stats, and have high analytical value. Sure, they all have their warts, but so did the entire Spurs team. Additionally, Smart and Saric seem to exude passion while they play (particularly Smart since I'm talking out of my ass, aka highlights, when it comes to Saric).

Even if Saric wants to stay overseas for another year or two, think about it like this:

We grab wing/perimeter players this year and suck next year in a draft that has a bevy of highly ranked big man prospects. Start to see some promising chemistry with MCW/Smart/Noel, bring Saric back over the following year. We would have an interesting team to say the least.
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Re: 2013-2014 College Basketball / '14 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#3367 » by ProcessDoctor » Thu Jun 19, 2014 9:59 pm

dbodner wrote:
PhilasFinest wrote:Wonder if Marcus Smart is a under the radar sleeper for us.


They're big on Marcus Smart.


I would not be shocked if we left the draft with a combo of Marcus Smart, Anderson, and Adams. Analytics players. Can't say I'm not disappointed about this Embiid injury getting in the way of Wiggins though.
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Post#3368 » by SJSF » Thu Jun 19, 2014 11:11 pm

The biggest risk in the draft is not selecting the best player. If Embiid is Akeem then you have to roll the dice.
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Post#3369 » by Mik317 » Thu Jun 19, 2014 11:54 pm

Rumors are that the Jazz are dangling Favors and 5 (and probably other ****) to get Parker at 1. If the reports of Exum being higher on the Bucks board are true (I doubt it and even if so I imagine they try to get stuff from us first or just take Wiggins), then maybe Wiggins is still in play.

maybe

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Post#3370 » by M3 » Fri Jun 20, 2014 12:06 am

More than ever I have no idea what will happen in this draft, but I get the feeling there will be a documentary or special about it 10+ Years. The fate of several franchises changed today with one mans broken foot. There will be so many what ifs in the years to come as this draft class develops.
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Post#3371 » by bebopdeluxe » Fri Jun 20, 2014 12:09 am

Mik317 wrote:Rumors are that the Jazz are dangling Favors and 5 (and probably other ****) to get Parker at 1. If the reports of Exum being higher on the Bucks board are true (I doubt it and even if so I imagine they try to get stuff from us first or just take Wiggins), then maybe Wiggins is still in play.

maybe

/in denial.


I think that Wiggins is ABSOLUTELY still in play. I think that Exum was a possibility for the Bucks even before this happened. Still makes a crapload of sense, frankly, since they already have Giannis...

I am just happy because I have always been open to the possibility of Exum over Wiggins, if Hinkie thought that was the way to go...but had he made that call, there would have been a universal meltdown among the fan base (and it would have been even MORE impossible than normal to listen to sports talk in this town). Now, if Hinkie feels that way, he can do it with a lot less backlash.

Only thing that sucks is that there was a chance of talking Parker at 3, and if ORL took Smart, you could have gotten Exum AND some goodies from the Jazz. That option is gone now.
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Post#3372 » by Arsenal » Fri Jun 20, 2014 1:00 am

I also think Wiggins is still in play. The Cavs will most likely go for Parker, then the Bucks have to decide between Wiggins and Exum. Reports have come out that they have Exum higher on their board then Wiggins.

Also, I honestly wonder if Hinkie rates Exum or even a guy like Smart higher than Wiggins. It wouldn't surprise me at all, especially with how favorable Smart's stats appear to be on analytics models.
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Post#3373 » by Arsenal » Fri Jun 20, 2014 1:04 am

If our medical staff is confident he'll make a full recovery, I'd be okay with taking Embiid at #3 and redshirting him to heal ala Noel, and slowly build up strength/stamina and give Brett Brown a chance to work on his skills. Sure we'd suck again next year but hey, another tank job would serve us well.

Or even better try to trade up from #10 (using Thad, cap space, 2nd rounders) to grab him. Coming out of this draft with Exum or Wiggins and Embiid could be amazing.
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Post#3374 » by Kobblehead » Fri Jun 20, 2014 1:08 am

If he's had stress fractures in both the back and foot, structural stability in his actual body comes into question. Is he capable of handling any type of professional workload? Those are careful considerations the medical staff has to take. I doubt we have access to him pre-draft to make that assessment, though.
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Post#3375 » by Arsenal » Fri Jun 20, 2014 1:19 am

Kobblehead wrote:If he's had stress fractures in both the back and foot, structural stability in his actual body comes into question. Is he capable of handling any type of professional workload? Those are careful considerations the medical staff has to take. I doubt we have access to him pre-draft to make that assessment, though.


I'd be surprised if we don't get full access to his medical records and a chance to examine him. Denying us and other teams that information would be a major red flag that would cause him to tumble.

If we can get his info and the medical team says he has a 50% chance of being injury free long-term and a 50% chance of being an outright bust ala Greg Oden due to injuries I'd definitely take a shot at that (trading up from or) at #10 where historically you don't get a lot of return for your draft capital anyway.
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Re: 2013-2014 College Basketball / '14 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#3376 » by snoopdogg88 » Fri Jun 20, 2014 1:29 am

SJSF wrote:The biggest risk in the draft is not selecting the best player. If Embiid is Akeem then you have to roll the dice.


if he can't stay on the court it really doesn't make any difference if he's a combination of Hakeem/Shaq/Wilt
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Re: 2013-2014 College Basketball / '14 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#3377 » by Kobblehead » Fri Jun 20, 2014 1:36 am

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SJSF wrote:The biggest risk in the draft is not selecting the best player. If Embiid is Akeem then you have to roll the dice.


if he can't stay on the court it really doesn't make any difference if he's a combination of Hakeem/Shaq/Wilt

Isn't Dante Exum just as big a risk being that he's virtually unproven? For all we know, he could have been as anemic as Andrew Harrison if he played in the NCAA this year.
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Re: 2013-2014 College Basketball / '14 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#3378 » by snoopdogg88 » Fri Jun 20, 2014 1:38 am

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snoopdogg88 wrote:
SJSF wrote:The biggest risk in the draft is not selecting the best player. If Embiid is Akeem then you have to roll the dice.


if he can't stay on the court it really doesn't make any difference if he's a combination of Hakeem/Shaq/Wilt

Isn't Dante Exum just as big a risk being that he's virtually unproven? For all we know, he could have been as anemic as Andrew Harrison if he played in the NCAA this year.


exum is a risk, just a different kind of risk. i'm more willing to take a chance on him than a guy who has classic 7 ft injury bust written all over him.
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Re: 2013-2014 College Basketball / '14 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#3379 » by PhilasFinest » Fri Jun 20, 2014 1:47 am

snoopdogg88 wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:
snoopdogg88 wrote:
if he can't stay on the court it really doesn't make any difference if he's a combination of Hakeem/Shaq/Wilt

Isn't Dante Exum just as big a risk being that he's virtually unproven? For all we know, he could have been as anemic as Andrew Harrison if he played in the NCAA this year.


exum is a risk, just a different kind of risk. i'm more willing to take a chance on him than a guy who has classic 7 ft injury bust written all over him.



Yea what risk would you take: Refining the Jump shot and polishing up the game of an 18 year old kid.
or hoping your 7 foot 250 lb big man doesn't fall out of bed and break another brittle bone?
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Re: 2013-2014 College Basketball / '14 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#3380 » by Kobblehead » Fri Jun 20, 2014 1:56 am

I feel more comfortable with Marcus Smart than I do with Dante Exum. Which is why I'd try my best to trade down if Parker and Wiggins go 1 and 2.

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