Sam Hinkie steps down per Marc Stein

OleSchool · Post #341 » by **OleSchool** » Thu Apr 7, 2016 3:34 am

bedjawII wrote: When he really hasn't done a single thing to make the organization better.

this is a joke, right???

NYSixersFan · Post #342 » by **NYSixersFan** » Thu Apr 7, 2016 3:36 am

t_smith979 wrote:If bryan does something wrong with embiid im going to be so mad

Yea, if he sends him to Iraq instead of Qatar, fire him immediately

tsmith · Post #343 » by **tsmith** » Thu Apr 7, 2016 3:44 am

NYSixersFan wrote:
t_smith979 wrote:If bryan does something wrong with embiid im going to be so mad

Yea, if he sends him to Iraq instead of Qatar, fire him immediately

You will love it when you prove everyone wrong and we are wasting all our assets to get back onto the treadmill wont you.

ItalianBull · Post #344 » by **ItalianBull** » Thu Apr 7, 2016 3:44 am

I feel really sorry for you 76ers fans, I was following closely The Process and it became my 2nd team. I cant believe that they let him go when after 3 years of long term thinking when it was about to start paying off big time.

The league forced Colangelo on you because you were losing too much, and this eventually had to happen. Hinkie deserved to finish his job, I hope you make your voices be heard at the games or however you can.

Only casual fanboys that want to win some games and finish 8th can be happy with this, think big or go home.

Post #345 » by **CoreyGallagher** » Thu Apr 7, 2016 3:44 am

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mksp · Post #346 » by **mksp** » Thu Apr 7, 2016 3:46 am

Being an intellectual in sports is really hard. Hinkie's one flaw is that he didn't dumb it down enough for the "casual fan."

tsmith · Post #347 » by **tsmith** » Thu Apr 7, 2016 3:46 am

Hinkie said it himself, he will never get to see the seeds he planted flourish. Let him finish the job at least.

LongLiveHinkie · Post #348 » by **LongLiveHinkie** » Thu Apr 7, 2016 3:49 am

mksp wrote:Being an intellectual in sports is really hard. Hinkie's one flaw is that he didn't dumb it down enough for the "casual fan."

It's a few levels below homophobia. People fear what they aren't used to or don't understand, and thus direct hate for it.

In sports, intellectuals are looked down upon as inferiors, because meathead cement heads are intimidated by their presence.

NYSixersFan · Post #349 » by **NYSixersFan** » Thu Apr 7, 2016 3:55 am

Hinkie is an Analytics geek...he is not an NBA GM....he may have convinced many on this forum that he is and that's your problem for falling for it.

NYSixersFan · Post #350 » by **NYSixersFan** » Thu Apr 7, 2016 3:56 am

t_smith979 wrote:
NYSixersFan wrote:
t_smith979 wrote:If bryan does something wrong with embiid im going to be so mad

Yea, if he sends him to Iraq instead of Qatar, fire him immediately

You will love it when you prove everyone wrong and we are wasting all our assets to get back onto the treadmill wont you.

I will love it when we are competitive on a nightly basis; with the chance of bringing in top free agents and winning championships.

mksp · Post #351 » by **mksp** » Thu Apr 7, 2016 3:56 am

Westbrook36 wrote:
mksp wrote:Being an intellectual in sports is really hard. Hinkie's one flaw is that he didn't dumb it down enough for the "casual fan."

It's a few levels below homophobia. People fear what they aren't used to or don't understand, and thus direct hate for it.

In sports, intellectuals are looked down upon as inferiors, because meathead cement heads are intimidated by their presence.

For a lot of people, sports has a deep-seated role in their lives as *the thing* they understand. Hinkie's approach in their eyes was condescending and abrasive. These people all think they could be GM, and want a GM who acts and talks like they do.

Hinkie tried to build a business, but he didn't have the agency to do it here. It's sad.

Jojothewhale · Post #352 » by **Jojothewhale** » Thu Apr 7, 2016 3:58 am

bedjawII wrote:
Jojothewhale wrote:
bedjawII wrote:
2x NBA Exec of the year. That was easy. What did Hinkie do? I'll wait. You can't lose epically and expect to keep your job. You can't make such large mistakes that your boss has no idea if you are in control of the franchise and has to hire a babysitter; and expect to keep your job. Any GM could've done what Hinkie did. All he did was tear down the 76ers. That's easy. He did not do one single bit or rebuilding in three years. He won't be missed.

Executive of the Year in no small part for taking Bargnani with Aldridge there and in consideration. What a perfect summary of a disaster this is going to be. It's so hard to be flat out wrong when discussing sports, but relying on awards voted on by local writers (or executives in this case) is one of the surest ways possible.

Uh no! You asked for reasons to be hopeful. I gave you two tangible and you replied with one mistake. I also asked why you are so butt-hurt over losing Hinkie. When he really hasn't done a single thing to make the organization better. Every single GM misses on draft picks if they are around long enough. And you can just ignore BC drafting Marion and Stoudemire; and trading for Steve Nash if you'd like. But that's why he won those awards and deservedly so.

We disagree entirely on the premise of tangible. Those awards are an opinion poll drawn from an unreliable pool of voters.

While I was certainly a Hinkie fan, if a suitable replacement was brought in, I wouldn't be as livid as I am. I suspect many others share that feeling.

Every single executive in sports has positives and negatives. It's a matter of ratio to determine worth. Colangelo gets credit for the positives, but we need to look at the whole picture. Marion was a very nice pick, but he gave up the aforementioned Nash to get him! Reacquiring Nash was of course a positive, but he traded him away in the first place, then made the god-awful Kidd-Marbury swap which created the hole he filled with Nash. Black and white positive/negative doesn't work in evaluating execs. Take the Bargnani pick for example. Ok, he missed. Everyone does. But then he compounded it by giving him that ludicrous 5/50 in the summer of '09. His recent history is filled with hilariously overpaying guys like Landry Fields (I understand the Nash idea, but you can't do that without having an agreement) rather than drafting Stoudemire.

XtremeDunkz · Post #353 » by **XtremeDunkz** » Thu Apr 7, 2016 3:59 am

NYSixersFan wrote:
t_smith979 wrote:
NYSixersFan wrote:
Yea, if he sends him to Iraq instead of Qatar, fire him immediately

You will love it when you prove everyone wrong and we are wasting all our assets to get back onto the treadmill wont you.

I will love it when we are competitive on a nightly basis; with the chance of bringing in top free agents and winning championships.

You must have loved that Elton Brand signing.

Da Doctor · Post #354 » by **Da Doctor** » Thu Apr 7, 2016 4:01 am

Hinkie has no one to blame, but himself. The Process itself isn't a bad idea, but by putting out unwatchable garbage for three straight years, this was inevitable.

Slacktard · Post #355 » by **Slacktard** » Thu Apr 7, 2016 4:03 am

If BC screws up all the assets he has been given i will feel like this has been the biggest timesink with crap as a reward since i saved up most of a year of allowances to buy a virtualboy.

NYSixersFan · Post #356 » by **NYSixersFan** » Thu Apr 7, 2016 4:04 am

XtremeDunkz wrote:
NYSixersFan wrote:
t_smith979 wrote:You will love it when you prove everyone wrong and we are wasting all our assets to get back onto the treadmill wont you.

I will love it when we are competitive on a nightly basis; with the chance of bringing in top free agents and winning championships.

You must have loved that Elton Brand signing.

in 2008? nope

MCoster · Post #357 » by **MCoster** » Thu Apr 7, 2016 4:06 am

The Hinkie letter was well done/interesting insight. I'm sure it will get mocked, he was a pretty nerdy with the quotes/comparison in the beginning, but he really did improve the Sixers outlook. Someone on twitter observed that he might have written this before the Lowe podcast because a lot of the same stuff were touched on in both.

I really like what Jake Fischer just said on twitter, "The structure of Sam Hinkie's letter crescendoes an underlying message: Don't screw this up."

Hinkie is/should be proud of what he accomplished with the roster in those 3 years here, given all the circumstances.

LongLiveHinkie · Post #358 » by **LongLiveHinkie** » Thu Apr 7, 2016 4:10 am

The Sixers haven't been highly competitive on a nightly basis since 2001 LOL. The Sixers before Hinkie got here were not "highly competitive."

Sixercise · Post #359 » by **Sixercise** » Thu Apr 7, 2016 4:12 am

3 years of cleansing for this bull**** puppet nepotist GM in bryan? FU JOSH HARRIS.

THIS FRANCHISE IS [SCREWED] FOR YEARS TO COME

spikeslovechild · Post #360 » by **spikeslovechild** » Thu Apr 7, 2016 4:13 am

snoopdogg88 wrote:i can't believe there are people in this thread who think teams are "clamoring" to bring Hinkie in right now.

you all understand part of the reason this happened is because Hinkie is so socially inept and hated around the league by players/agents/GM's/owners/coaches? not to mention "the masses" of NBA fans.
he'll get a lower level assistant GM job with the Grizzlies or some mediocre franchise at the moment.

and I'm sure I'll attacked for this post as some "hater". which I'm not. i love Hinkie, but the dude has his ego, and his flaws.

He's never seemed to have a problem making trades. I can't really think one major bad trade he's made or one draft that I wished he selected another player where he picked.

Even in retrospect. Thats rare. Of course being not on friendly terms has probably hurt him in some ways with agents. Instead of signing a bunch of mediocre talent to contracts like Phil Jackson has done for instance he's instead used his picks to acquire salary dumps on other teams roster. That's hurt clients and angered agents.

If that is a major concern of yours then Brian is your guy. He'll sign the Barganni of the world to 50 million dollar deals. Sign a washed up Hedo for 40 million. Sign some bum euro noone ever heard of for 20 million. Agents love him. Because he's a sucka.