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2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc)

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Re: 2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc) 

Post#341 » by Wilfried » Tue Oct 24, 2017 3:01 pm

Question:

Is next draft already the draft with the new %'s?

Tankathon has is already, I thought that change was for 2019 draft
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Re: 2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc) 

Post#342 » by spikeslovechild » Tue Oct 24, 2017 3:32 pm

Even if the pick conveys I still think we made the right call. This draft is big heavy we needed a guard there were really only two top ones Ball and Fultz. The thinking behind the trade was solid and we didn't give up a whole lot to make the move.

I do think however we need to take Fultz off the court until he's healthy not because other fans or idiot fans think he's bust eventhough he's playing hurt but because we are destroying the kids confidence.
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Re: 2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc) 

Post#343 » by the_process » Tue Oct 24, 2017 4:04 pm

Wilfried wrote:Question:

Is next draft already the draft with the new %'s?

Tankathon has is already, I thought that change was for 2019 draft


The changes are for 2019. The percentages look different because of ties. There are three teams tied for the worst record, so you have to take the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd percentages combined and then divide by 3.
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Re: 2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc) 

Post#344 » by Wilfried » Tue Oct 24, 2017 7:32 pm

the_process wrote:
Wilfried wrote:Question:

Is next draft already the draft with the new %'s?

Tankathon has is already, I thought that change was for 2019 draft


The changes are for 2019. The percentages look different because of ties. There are three teams tied for the worst record, so you have to take the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd percentages combined and then divide by 3.


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Re: 2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc) 

Post#345 » by Att » Sat Nov 4, 2017 3:21 pm

spikeslovechild wrote:Even if the pick conveys I still think we made the right call. This draft is big heavy we needed a guard there were really only two top ones Ball and Fultz. The thinking behind the trade was solid and we didn't give up a whole lot to make the move.

Right, keep telling yourself that :)
That was, the second it happened, one of the most stupid trades I've ever seen.
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Re: 2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc) 

Post#346 » by LordCovington33 » Sun Nov 5, 2017 10:09 am

Att wrote:
spikeslovechild wrote:Even if the pick conveys I still think we made the right call. This draft is big heavy we needed a guard there were really only two top ones Ball and Fultz. The thinking behind the trade was solid and we didn't give up a whole lot to make the move.

Right, keep telling yourself that :)
That was, the second it happened, one of the most stupid trades I've ever seen.
BC is Billy King light and we have to get used to that :-?


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Re: 2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc) 

Post#347 » by 76ciology » Mon Nov 6, 2017 8:23 am

So Lakers pick likely wont convey as of now?

Read on Twitter


Its a big win if that happens. I also think LAL pick can be a plan B if resigning RoCo ends up being a flop
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Re: 2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc) 

Post#348 » by Kolkmania » Mon Nov 6, 2017 9:06 am

Hmm not sure, I know it hurts when the Celtics get a 5th or 6th pick, but that Kings pick in 2019 could be even more valuable.

Difference this year is that I can relax and just see how it ends up, we have two studs in Embiid and Simmons, and I'm sure Fultz will regain his ability to shoot. The Lakers/Kings pick is just a cherry on top of the cake at this point.
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Re: 2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc) 

Post#349 » by Wilfried » Mon Nov 6, 2017 9:14 am

Kolkmania wrote:Hmm not sure, I know it hurts when the Celtics get a 5th or 6th pick, but that Kings pick in 2019 could be even more valuable.

Difference this year is that I can relax and just see how it ends up, we have two studs in Embiid and Simmons, and I'm sure Fultz will regain his ability to shoot. The Lakers/Kings pick is just a cherry on top of the cake at this point.


Can be, but I still would have liked it so much more if we could relax and see how it ends up for 2 years in a row.
We could have added 2 studs. You still have to go WCS when Embiid goes down or Fultz doesn't pan out.
Now we only have 1 asset to add.

Still don't like the trade, we made Celtics better.
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Re: 2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc) 

Post#350 » by Kolkmania » Mon Nov 6, 2017 9:24 am

Wilfried wrote:
Kolkmania wrote:Hmm not sure, I know it hurts when the Celtics get a 5th or 6th pick, but that Kings pick in 2019 could be even more valuable.

Difference this year is that I can relax and just see how it ends up, we have two studs in Embiid and Simmons, and I'm sure Fultz will regain his ability to shoot. The Lakers/Kings pick is just a cherry on top of the cake at this point.


Can be, but I still would have liked it so much more if we could relax and see how it ends up for 2 years in a row.
We could have added 2 studs. You still have to go WCS when Embiid goes down or Fultz doesn't pan out.
Now we only have 1 asset to add.

Still don't like the trade, we made Celtics better.


Don't think that Jayson Tatum, Jonathan Isaac and DSJ (main candidates) deserve to be categorized as studs yet. At the time of the draft I labeled the first two in the ++ role player category (as their median outcome) and DSJ a higher ceiling, more risky gamble. Thus far I haven't seen anything that makes me regret that.

I didn't think that Fultz would become a superstar either, but his fit with our roster was a reason to justify giving up an additional pick. Also take into account that 5 core players are impossible to retain with the salary cap restrictions, there's a benefit in having three really complementary players in comparison with 4 equally good players, but with a questionable fit.
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Re: 2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc) 

Post#351 » by Wilfried » Mon Nov 6, 2017 11:03 am

Don't see the problem with having too much talent and rookies are on rookie contracts for 4 years.
Really don't see the problem.

And you can trade them for another player or pick.

We'll see how Fultz pans out, but I'm still not happy about it (wasn't at the time).

I can understand you not taking Tatum because of Covington, but tbh you can take him and have him for 4 years and he could have become our (small) PF.

And you give Covington a 4-year contract. After that (when he's 31) you go to Tatum as your SF.

Really didn't see the need to go all-in on a player a lot of us like because of fit, not because of overall superstar talent.
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Re: 2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc) 

Post#352 » by OleSchool » Mon Nov 6, 2017 11:57 am

76ciology wrote:So Lakers pick likely wont convey as of now?

Read on Twitter


Its a big win if that happens. I also think LAL pick can be a plan B if resigning RoCo ends up being a flop


I can’t see the Lakers winning 39 in the West. They’re projected to have more wins than us and we have more talent and play in a weaker conference?

I do agree that the Lakers pick will not convey. The only pick that we’ll lose is Sac’s next year. That’s why I was ok with the trade
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Re: 2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc) 

Post#353 » by Ericb5 » Mon Nov 6, 2017 12:43 pm

OleSchool wrote:
76ciology wrote:So Lakers pick likely wont convey as of now?

Read on Twitter


Its a big win if that happens. I also think LAL pick can be a plan B if resigning RoCo ends up being a flop


I can’t see the Lakers winning 39 in the West. They’re projected to have more wins than us and we have more talent and play in a weaker conference?

I do agree that the Lakers pick will not convey. The only pick that we’ll lose is Sac’s next year. That’s why I was ok with the trade


We are going to win more than 40 I think.


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Re: 2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc) 

Post#354 » by Wilfried » Mon Nov 6, 2017 12:50 pm

OleSchool wrote:I do agree that the Lakers pick will not convey. The only pick that we’ll lose is Sac’s next year. That’s why I was ok with the trade


Lakers' position at the end of the season should be around 5-8 worst.

Sacramento pick in 2019 could be a very good one (draft is another question). Luckily we still own it when #1
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Re: 2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc) 

Post#355 » by 76ciology » Mon Nov 6, 2017 2:10 pm

Ericb5 wrote:
OleSchool wrote:
76ciology wrote:So Lakers pick likely wont convey as of now?

Read on Twitter


Its a big win if that happens. I also think LAL pick can be a plan B if resigning RoCo ends up being a flop


I can’t see the Lakers winning 39 in the West. They’re projected to have more wins than us and we have more talent and play in a weaker conference?

I do agree that the Lakers pick will not convey. The only pick that we’ll lose is Sac’s next year. That’s why I was ok with the trade


We are going to win more than 40 I think.


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Re: 2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc) 

Post#356 » by Unbreakable99 » Mon Nov 6, 2017 4:33 pm

OleSchool wrote:
76ciology wrote:So Lakers pick likely wont convey as of now?

Read on Twitter


Its a big win if that happens. I also think LAL pick can be a plan B if resigning RoCo ends up being a flop


I can’t see the Lakers winning 39 in the West. They’re projected to have more wins than us and we have more talent and play in a weaker conference?

I do agree that the Lakers pick will not convey. The only pick that we’ll lose is Sac’s next year. That’s why I was ok with the trade


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Re: 2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc) 

Post#357 » by OleSchool » Mon Nov 6, 2017 7:04 pm

Unbreakable99 wrote:
OleSchool wrote:
76ciology wrote:So Lakers pick likely wont convey as of now?

Read on Twitter


Its a big win if that happens. I also think LAL pick can be a plan B if resigning RoCo ends up being a flop


I can’t see the Lakers winning 39 in the West. They’re projected to have more wins than us and we have more talent and play in a weaker conference?

I do agree that the Lakers pick will not convey. The only pick that we’ll lose is Sac’s next year. That’s why I was ok with the trade


Lonzo effect.



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Re: 2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc) 

Post#358 » by Sixerscan » Mon Nov 6, 2017 11:27 pm

It's not like the Lakers have ever started out playing .500 ball only to fade into hot garbage before.
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Re: 2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc) 

Post#359 » by Sixerscan » Mon Nov 6, 2017 11:36 pm

Wilfried wrote:Don't see the problem with having too much talent and rookies are on rookie contracts for 4 years.
Really don't see the problem.

And you can trade them for another player or pick.

We'll see how Fultz pans out, but I'm still not happy about it (wasn't at the time).

I can understand you not taking Tatum because of Covington, but tbh you can take him and have him for 4 years and he could have become our (small) PF.

And you give Covington a 4-year contract. After that (when he's 31) you go to Tatum as your SF.

Really didn't see the need to go all-in on a player a lot of us like because of fit, not because of overall superstar talent.


How the heck is that trade "going all in"?

I swear people are in way too deep about that trade. It's one thing that disagree with a transaction it's another to completely lose perspective about how important it was. Right now it looks like everyone involved in that draft around where we were picking and probably whoever will be available with the Lakers/Kings pick would be a role player to Simmons and Embiid.
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Re: 2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc) 

Post#360 » by Wilfried » Tue Nov 7, 2017 8:16 am

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How the heck is that trade "going all in"?

I swear people are in way too deep about that trade. It's one thing that disagree with a transaction it's another to completely lose perspective about how important it was. Right now it looks like everyone involved in that draft around where we were picking and probably whoever will be available with the Lakers/Kings pick would be a role player to Simmons and Embiid.


Because you gave away a top draft pick in this years draft or next year (I know it's not 100% certain but let's face reality)?

You don't give that away imo

People really think Joel Embiid is a 100% healthy for the next 5-6 years? I'm still anxious whenever I see him fall down again.

And if Embiid has a career ending injury (that is worst case but still realistic imo), than you threw away a draft pick.

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