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Re: Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized 

Post#341 » by FlightBrothers » Mon May 7, 2018 2:02 pm

He just needs a little help. The issue is not Embiid not by a mile. We need a much better player at the 2/3 and that will make everything so much easier for Embiid. Covington faded after his fast start and JJ is great but he can't take it to the hole on his own or really carry the offense for stretches to allow Embiid to save some energy on the court (on the offensive end of the court). Embiid is a top 10 player right now.

Our team is not even close to a finished product we need to see what happens this offseason. You bring in a Kawhi, George, or Lebron and everything changes and Embiid is probably a top 3 player in the league with Kawhi or Lebron out there.

My only fear is more BC screwing up another offseason for us.

Our future is bright.
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Re: Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized 

Post#342 » by 76ciology » Mon May 7, 2018 11:08 pm

Rozier was on Ben but Bid decides to iso
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Re: Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized 

Post#343 » by 76ciology » Mon May 7, 2018 11:09 pm

Damn it.. took us till 4th qtr of G3 to trap the PnR and realize they dont have a playmaker
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Re: Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized 

Post#344 » by Sixerscan » Tue May 8, 2018 2:43 pm

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Re: Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized 

Post#345 » by USWAY » Tue May 8, 2018 4:21 pm

How the hell does Horford keep swatting his sh*t lol
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Re: Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized 

Post#346 » by JojoSlimbiid » Tue May 8, 2018 4:36 pm

USWAY wrote:How the hell does Horford keep swatting his sh*t lol


Because Horford is a great defender and Embiid only has a right handed hook. Easy to sit and wait for it.
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Re: Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized 

Post#347 » by 76ciology » Tue May 8, 2018 5:07 pm

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USWAY wrote:How the hell does Horford keep swatting his sh*t lol


Because Horford is a great defender and Embiid only has a right handed hook. Easy to sit and wait for it.


This. Biid is predictable with his post moves.
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Post#348 » by Kobblehead » Tue May 8, 2018 5:30 pm

Horford is an extremely high IQ player that can read and react. Embiid is still in the beginning stages of learning how to use his size to dominate in the post.
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Post#349 » by Chris76 » Tue May 8, 2018 6:12 pm

Kobblehead wrote:Horford is an extremely high IQ player that can read and react. Embiid is still in the beginning stages of learning how to use his size to dominate in the post.


Simmons backed down Horford and got a good entry pass for an easy bucket. Embiid tried and got an offensive foul.

Definitely an area that Embiid can improve and be almost unstoppable.
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Post#350 » by Winejk » Tue May 8, 2018 6:46 pm

If the game plan is to kill the Celtics in the paint, Embiid needs to establish better position in the post instead of the mid post where he usually faces up. Plant his a$$ right on the lower block and play back to the basket post offense. It will also make it harder for double teams to come.
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Post#351 » by Bum Adebayo » Tue May 8, 2018 9:28 pm

Chris76 wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:Horford is an extremely high IQ player that can read and react. Embiid is still in the beginning stages of learning how to use his size to dominate in the post.


Simmons backed down Horford and got a good entry pass for an easy bucket. Embiid tried and got an offensive foul.

Definitely an area that Embiid can improve and be almost unstoppable.


Simmons is stronger than Embiid when posting up. Why, because Simmons has strong legs, Embiid has a weak core.
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Re: Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized 

Post#352 » by FireMorey » Tue May 8, 2018 10:01 pm

I think "great" is a little extreme, but semantics I guess. Horford is a good defender, not a great defender. Embiid gets his shot blocked because he leans away losing leverage instead of leaning into him, creating leverage. I think Embiid is afraid of getting called for offensive fouls against smaller players so he doesn't want to put his weight into them.
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Re: Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized 

Post#353 » by gdog2004 » Tue May 8, 2018 10:56 pm

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Kobblehead wrote:Horford is an extremely high IQ player that can read and react. Embiid is still in the beginning stages of learning how to use his size to dominate in the post.


Simmons backed down Horford and got a good entry pass for an easy bucket. Embiid tried and got an offensive foul.

Definitely an area that Embiid can improve and be almost unstoppable.


Simmons is stronger than Embiid when posting up. Why, because Simmons has strong legs, Embiid has a weak core.

Simmons has a little lower center of gravity and is in better condition than Embiid. His legs and core are stronger as well most likely.
Embiid probably has way more upper body strength than Simmons, but that isnt getting you post position.
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Re: Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized 

Post#354 » by shlo » Wed May 9, 2018 12:49 am

Winejk wrote:If the game plan is to kill the Celtics in the paint, Embiid needs to establish better position in the post instead of the mid post where he usually faces up. Plant his a$$ right on the lower block and play back to the basket post offense. It will also make it harder for double teams to come.


Embiid doesn't know how to use his size to his advantage. He's often outmuscled in the post by much smaller players because he doesn't use his a$$ and legs. He's all upper body when he is trying to post up.
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Post#355 » by 76ciology » Wed May 9, 2018 1:43 am

Overall, Im please from what I saw from Biid. He was able to keep up with teams when they play fast and also defend at the perimeter unlike Gobert.

My issues are more with his lack of PnR offense (which may not be his fault) and inconsistent jumper (he’s still one of our better shooter in the playoffs).
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Re: Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized 

Post#356 » by 76ciology » Wed May 9, 2018 1:49 am

shlo wrote:
Winejk wrote:If the game plan is to kill the Celtics in the paint, Embiid needs to establish better position in the post instead of the mid post where he usually faces up. Plant his a$$ right on the lower block and play back to the basket post offense. It will also make it harder for double teams to come.


Embiid doesn't know how to use his size to his advantage. He's often outmuscled in the post by much smaller players because he doesn't use his a$$ and legs. He's all upper body when he is trying to post up.


Partly his fault. But it’s more natural that drives > post. Only way to make up for that is Biid post up smaller guys that we can create via screen plays.

If he wants to post guys his size, then he needs to learn how to finish with his left and make the defense guess. If he can’t then he is better with his face-up game. Even Bb said this
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Re: Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized 

Post#357 » by shlo » Wed May 9, 2018 3:22 pm

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shlo wrote:
Winejk wrote:If the game plan is to kill the Celtics in the paint, Embiid needs to establish better position in the post instead of the mid post where he usually faces up. Plant his a$$ right on the lower block and play back to the basket post offense. It will also make it harder for double teams to come.


Embiid doesn't know how to use his size to his advantage. He's often outmuscled in the post by much smaller players because he doesn't use his a$$ and legs. He's all upper body when he is trying to post up.


Partly his fault. But it’s more natural that drives > post. Only way to make up for that is Biid post up smaller guys that we can create via screen plays.

If he wants to post guys his size, then he needs to learn how to finish with his left and make the defense guess. If he can’t then he is better with his face-up game. Even Bb said this

But he also has difficulty posting smaller guys because he doesn't know how to use his size and strength advantage.
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Re: Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized 

Post#358 » by Winejk » Thu May 10, 2018 5:23 am

It might be just a product of all of Embiid's injuries, but he needs to work on his lower body and core strength over the off season. He needs to establish better position in the low post and he needs to hold it. For such a big guy, he gets knocked around a lot and for as good as hands he has, he's weak when it comes on to holding the ball. If he gets lower body strength he'll be able to hold and establish better post position. Better core strength will help him immensely too.
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Re: Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized 

Post#359 » by Kolkmania » Thu May 10, 2018 12:03 pm

This will be the first summer for Embiid to work on his skill set while having NBA experience, I'm hyped.
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Re: Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized 

Post#360 » by shlo » Thu May 10, 2018 12:12 pm

Winejk wrote:It might be just a product of all of Embiid's injuries, but he needs to work on his lower body and core strength over the off season. He needs to establish better position in the low post and he needs to hold it. For such a big guy, he gets knocked around a lot and for as good as hands he has, he's weak when it comes on to holding the ball. If he gets lower body strength he'll be able to hold and establish better post position. Better core strength will help him immensely too.



This. It drives me nuts watching how often he gets pushed around. He should dominate in the post against some of these guys who give him trouble. I'd also love to see him cut down on the stupid turnovers. Coming off his first healthy season and first fully health off-season, I can't wait to see how he develops for next year.

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