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Re: Welcome Tyrese Maxey 

Post#341 » by HotelVitale » Fri Dec 18, 2020 4:36 pm

rzzzzz wrote:
HotelVitale wrote: he was kind of herky jerky.
So this is why I even made reference to our former disaster artist. Maxey likewise does not strike me as being blazing fast, but am I wrong in attributing to him that talent to find the open spot and the timing to cut to the basket? I think he’s got the knack to develop into an efficient scoring machine.

I don't know, I think of Maxey's skill as more his ability to race into gaps and get a shot off within them. That in and of itself could describe a junk player though--someone who ballstops and jacks up tough shots or plays too fast, etc. Since Maxey's not very big or athletic--even compared to someone like Fultz--I think his key is sort of mastering space and small gaps; i.e. in the NBA he's not going to get to ideal spots all the time (big man will cut him off outside the lane, the pn'r will be well defended, etc), so how is he able to still make use of the smaller gaps the defense gives him in those situations? Can he become awesome at quick pull-ups/floaters, or develop great timing and vision on passes (like CP3), or manipulate the defense while hunting driving gaps (like Mitchell or SGA), or even just hit enough shots and bait fouls like Lou Will? He has potential to develop some of those skills, but he's not starting off being particularly good (or at least NBA good) at any of them, and he's not starting off with any physical/athletic advantages, so his game will all a big question mark to me. He's shown enough ability and instinct for that to know it's possible but not enough to know he's going to be able to bank on any of it. My guess is he'll be able to do some but probably not all of those things, no idea if he'll be good enough at them to be a decent or good player but it'll be fun to watch.
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Re: Welcome Tyrese Maxey! 

Post#342 » by Eyeamok » Fri Dec 18, 2020 4:36 pm

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kriss73 wrote:Anyway, many thanks to our old boy Muscala.

I've seen people say thanks Muscala. I don't get it. We got this pick for Fultz... and if you really want to get technical, we got it for Jeremi Grant.

1. Out OKC pick '20 to 76ers for Jeremi Grant
2. Out OKC pick '20 to Magic for Anzejs Pasecnik's rights
3. Out OKC pick '20 to 76ers for Markelle Fultz

So basically Elton Brand traded Markelle Fultz for Tyrese Maxey, after Colangelo traded Jeremi Grant for Pasecniks.


Personally I'm sending Chris Paul a Christmas card and thanking him for not making OKC suck to badly.
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Post#343 » by Eyeamok » Fri Dec 18, 2020 4:49 pm

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Stanford wrote:I agree with Lloyd: Fultz did not have a beautiful outside shot

Also, it's tragic that I'm so in on Maxey. My disappointment is going to be big time.


Disagree. It was beautiful before whatever happened, happened:

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So that was the injury that caused all of his problems. Got it ! That clip should make all 76ers fans weep. He had something going on in summer league and then he got to the pros that was it. Amazing and not in a good way.
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Re: Welcome Tyrese Maxey! 

Post#344 » by Eyeamok » Fri Dec 18, 2020 4:57 pm

eyeatoma wrote:Can we please stop discussing Fultz. It was one of the darkest moments of this franchise. He has lost whatever semblance of a shot he has, and he's never going to be the same player. What's the point on harping what it once was, when it was never even displayed even once in the NBA outside of the preseason. Time to move on. This thread should really only be about Maxey. If people do want to keep bitching about Fultz, make another thread.


When you talk about past failures and provide insight, statistics and timelines it helps (1) Paint a clearer picture (2) hopefully stops you, organizations, from making the same mistake. And maybe just maybe we have a few new posters who are recent 76ers fans who don't know all the ins and outs of the Fultz saga.

And I don't think this board beats the Fultz thing to death the way it used to. So IMHO it's all good.
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Re: Welcome Tyrese Maxey! 

Post#345 » by LloydFree » Fri Dec 18, 2020 5:57 pm

Negrodamus wrote:I don't think speed is particularly necessary to be a great guard, but if you're not going to beat your man easily, you better draw fouls and hit your jumper. SGA, Dinwiddie are studs and they aren't known as burners at the PG position. Tyrese has the body to be physical, I just hope he figures out how to generate more trips to the line.

Speed helps, but body control is more important. Dwayne Wade wasn't fast, but he had other world body control. Andrew Wiggins is fast, but has no body control and that's what keeps him from being close to the prospect people thought.
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Re: Welcome Tyrese Maxey! 

Post#346 » by blargh » Fri Dec 18, 2020 6:25 pm

LloydFree wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:I don't think speed is particularly necessary to be a great guard, but if you're not going to beat your man easily, you better draw fouls and hit your jumper. SGA, Dinwiddie are studs and they aren't known as burners at the PG position. Tyrese has the body to be physical, I just hope he figures out how to generate more trips to the line.

Speed helps, but body control is more important. Dwayne Wade wasn't fast, but he had other world body control. Andrew Wiggins is fast, but has no body control and that's what keeps him from being close to the prospect people thought.


Wade didn’t have end-to-end speed like a De’Aaron Fox, but he had more burst in his first step than Maxey seems to have. Would agree that Wade’s body control was key, and I do think Maxey can learn a lot from Wade on how to best use his existing skills to score. He may just need more screens to start his moves.
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Re: Welcome Tyrese Maxey! 

Post#347 » by phillynative » Fri Dec 18, 2020 9:05 pm

LloydFree wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:I don't think speed is particularly necessary to be a great guard, but if you're not going to beat your man easily, you better draw fouls and hit your jumper. SGA, Dinwiddie are studs and they aren't known as burners at the PG position. Tyrese has the body to be physical, I just hope he figures out how to generate more trips to the line.

Speed helps, but body control is more important. Dwayne Wade wasn't fast, but he had other world body control. Andrew Wiggins is fast, but has no body control and that's what keeps him from being close to the prospect people thought.


Dwade had an explosive first step
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Re: Welcome Tyrese Maxey! 

Post#348 » by HotelVitale » Fri Dec 18, 2020 9:45 pm

blargh wrote:
LloydFree wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:I don't think speed is particularly necessary to be a great guard, but if you're not going to beat your man easily, you better draw fouls and hit your jumper. SGA, Dinwiddie are studs and they aren't known as burners at the PG position. Tyrese has the body to be physical, I just hope he figures out how to generate more trips to the line.
Speed helps, but body control is more important. Dwayne Wade wasn't fast, but he had other world body control. Andrew Wiggins is fast, but has no body control and that's what keeps him from being close to the prospect people thought.

Wade didn’t have end-to-end speed like a De’Aaron Fox, but he had more burst in his first step than Maxey seems to have. Would agree that Wade’s body control was key, and I do think Maxey can learn a lot from Wade on how to best use his existing skills to score. He may just need more screens to start his moves.

Wade was in another universe than Maxey athletically but it'd be huge if Maxey could develop even a mall amount of Wade's or D Mitchell's ability to dance in space and use quick footwork and anticipation to beat defenders. Little guys who can drive and finish at high volume need to be able to attack in whatever the defender gives them--if a big is leaning to cut off his left they need to seamlessly/instinctively beeline to the gap to the right, or freeze a big with a stutter step and immediately dive past him, etc.

Maxey for now tends to look for ways to get off shots over defenders rather than go around/through them to get to the cup (or he takes straight lines to the hoop). I wouldn't put money on him developing awesome footwork and control but it could happen and I'd bet he'll be working on it hard throughout this year.
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Re: Welcome Tyrese Maxey! 

Post#349 » by Negrodamus » Fri Dec 18, 2020 9:50 pm

If we wanted a chance at Dwyane Wade, we should have drafted RJ Hampton.
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Post#350 » by ankle420breaker » Sat Dec 19, 2020 2:00 pm

He drives with intent and is strong with the ball. TJ has a knack for infuriating inexperienced guards and was impressed with how Maxey handled that match up.

Maxey and Shake should keep opposing 2nd units on their heels.

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Post#351 » by Kobblehead » Sat Dec 19, 2020 4:35 pm

We secured a 19 year old 6'3" 200 pound shotcreater that can drill his free throws when he gets to the line. That's a major score with a late first round pick.
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Post#352 » by 6ers83 » Sat Dec 19, 2020 4:43 pm

Like him but he won’t play much this year.
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Re: Welcome Tyrese Maxey! 

Post#353 » by Aussiepiston1 » Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:57 am

Eyeamok wrote:
LloydFree wrote:
kriss73 wrote:Anyway, many thanks to our old boy Muscala.

I've seen people say thanks Muscala. I don't get it. We got this pick for Fultz... and if you really want to get technical, we got it for Jeremi Grant.

1. Out OKC pick '20 to 76ers for Jeremi Grant
2. Out OKC pick '20 to Magic for Anzejs Pasecnik's rights
3. Out OKC pick '20 to 76ers for Markelle Fultz

So basically Elton Brand traded Markelle Fultz for Tyrese Maxey, after Colangelo traded Jeremi Grant for Pasecniks.


Personally I'm sending Chris Paul a Christmas card and thanking him for not making OKC suck to badly.

Lloyd the reason Muscala is being thanked is because he hit the game winning 3 to give OKC the record which made the pick 21st instead of 20th which would’ve stayed protected.
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Post#354 » by Aussiepiston1 » Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:01 am

I heard him saying that he compares himself to CJ McCollum.
If he can be 75% of him then we’re popping champagne bottles in a year or two haha
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Post#355 » by Negrodamus » Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:06 am

6ers83 wrote:Like him but he won’t play much this year.


It's pretty evident that we're going to lean on him quite a bit for ball handling. He clearly can keep the ball on a string while playing PG which is for whatever reason a major issue for everyone else on this team.
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Post#356 » by Iverson Armband » Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:18 am

Aussiepiston1 wrote:I heard him saying that he compares himself to CJ McCollum.
If he can be 75% of him then we’re popping champagne bottles in a year or two haha

If his shot is improved that’s not a terrible comparison.
always a jump shot away.
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Post#357 » by VDT » Sun Dec 20, 2020 3:36 am

Didnt see him in college at all. From what i saw in the preseason i think it will be hard for him to find minutes in the league without a jumper. He needs at least a three point shot to be playable and he needs a pull up jumper if he wants to be something more. Based on his physical profile it doesnt look like he can get away with just being a slasher. He plays hard and with confidence though which is always good.
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Post#358 » by Kobblehead » Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:19 pm

Maxey at Kentucky:
35.7% on mid-range jumpers, 10.9% assisted

Even his mid-range jumper was pretty weak at Kentucky. He definitely needs significant jumpshot improvement. The free throw percentage in the clinging point for optimism.

I'd go as far to say even Fultz was a more promising jumpshooter in 2017 than Maxey is right now.
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Post#359 » by stormi » Tue Dec 22, 2020 7:31 pm

I don't like the Fultz comparison at all. Maybe busted Fultz, but Fultz as a prospect was >>>>>> Maxey

I still think Maxey is a good candidate to get solid bench minutes this year and he and Shake along with Dwight can be a foundation for a Raptors style 'bench mob' when they had Delon and FVV coming up together. He's still raw offensively, and vets like Brogdon were playing around with him defensively in the spurt of action we saw of him. As a situational attacker though on constructed plays off screens, or in some improv'd iso situations he can provide a dynamic nobody else on this roster can.
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Post#360 » by Mik317 » Tue Dec 22, 2020 7:34 pm

he can dribble and take step backs.

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