Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 4

[FlyingArrow]

Let him sit out for 4 years if we don't get an offer we like. If he sits out, dock his pay. If he is injured, require doctor's visits daily to check for injuries. Dock his pay if he misses the "work" of going to the doctor.

Yeah, the hardball stuff surely won't happen. But we can definitely let him gather dust until we get an offer we like. I don't think Philly is going to lose any fans over that happening.

[76ciology]

1.) F Ben Simmons. Let him rot. Dont trade him. Just ruin his career by not allowing him to play until his contract run out.
2.) tank for a season. Every year you can get someone better than ben simmons in the lottery.

[76ciology]

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Double meaning?

[DWhiteMamba]

I hope after this no Sixer fan will ever complain about us trading Kawhi to Toronto and not LA (not that LA was offering a godfather package, or even a better one). This is what it's like. At least you won't have to deal with other people accusing your team of "mishandling" Kawhi somehow and treating him unfairly.

[XtremeDunkz]

I hope after this no Sixer fan will ever complain about us trading Kawhi to Toronto and not LA (not that LA was offering a godfather package, or even a better one). This is what it's like. At least you won't have to deal with other people accusing your team of "mishandling" Kawhi somehow and treating him unfairly.

All this player empowerment **** is turning me off big time from the NBA. If it wasn't for Embiid I'd probably be out.

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[76ciology]

I hope after this no Sixer fan will ever complain about us trading Kawhi to Toronto and not LA (not that LA was offering a godfather package, or even a better one). This is what it's like. At least you won't have to deal with other people accusing your team of "mishandling" Kawhi somehow and treating him unfairly.

All this player empowerment **** is turning me off big time from the NBA. If it wasn't for Embiid I'd probably be out.

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Its our fault tho.

One day embiid will also ask for a trade if we can’t build a winning team.

If you’re not gonna be the one that’s gonna trade a player, the player is gonna be the one who’s gonna ask to be traded. That is UNLESS you win a championship.

The purest of the pure, Giannis, even almost asked to be traded last offseason. Miami was already trying to lure him.

[76ciology]

And this is why Im favoring a short cycle rebuild. You can’t sustain a very long program nowadays.

Because the league created a very volatile environment for team construction. Teams trades 3-4 picks for a win now player while player have short contracts, very empowered and just jumps from team to team.

And this is good for the league because they get to have different storylines every season with all the movement.

The problem with this team is their concept of team building is just very ignorant of the trend.

While the league trends towards a very perimeter centric and short cycle rebuild, we try to build around bigs and try to build a long cycle program.

The spurs was an anomaly. You will never find guys who will be willing to give up personal legacy and fortune.

If Warriors havent won any championship, Steph would probably be with the Knicks by now.

[DWhiteMamba]

Toronto won a ring and Kawhi still wanted out. The Spurs were coming off back to back 60+ win seasons and Kawhi wanted out. This is not about winning, that is for most of these guys utter tripe. It's about a big market and perks. When Butler demanded a trade while sabotaging the team he gave Minny 3 teams originally, all in NY or LA. He eventually accepted big market Philly, before leaving to the plush beaches of Miami. Davis wanted LA or nothing. Irving and Harden wanted to go to NY, Boston and Houston weren't big enough and they can hang out with their friends, etc. Simmons is doing much the same now, demanding one of 3 LA teams. I thought the current CBA struck a good balance, but it seems like it doesn't go far enough.

[76ciology]

When we were building our squad, its part of the old landscape when there’s only a handful of teams who can win it.

Nowadays it’s really a lot more volatile. The league wants equal opportunities for every team. And the only way is thru volatility. And teams like the Pelicans knew this thats why they’re saving up for picks. Once an opportunity opens up, they can trade all their assets and instantly shift from a nobody to a contender. Once it fails, then they just rebuild from scratch.

Winning a championship is more like taking turns now. Similar set-up in roster and asset management cycle.

[76ciology]

Toronto won a ring and Kawhi still wanted out. The Spurs were coming off back to back 60+ win seasons and Kawhi wanted out. This is not about winning, that is for most of these guys utter tripe. It's about a big market and perks. When Butler demanded a trade while sabotaging the team he gave Minny 3 teams originally, all in NY or LA. He eventually accepted big market Philly, before leaving to the plush beaches of Miami. Davis wanted LA or nothing. Irving and Harden wanted to go to NY, Boston and Houston weren't big enough and they can hang out with their friends, etc. Simmons is doing much the same now, demanding one of 3 LA teams. I thought the current CBA struck a good balance, but it seems like it doesn't go far enough.

Players dont really care about winning. But those teams that are trying to win care about winning. And those teams that care about winning will overpay for those players who dont care about winning.

Dont look at Harden and Dame.
Look at how our team is relative to Harden and Dame.

[Kova]

You all need to relax a bit. Ben Simmons and Klutch are not holding 76ers hostage here.

Simmons - he is under a contract, he cannot NOT report to the team. Unless he wants to be fined. So ok, sit out games, you're not getting money from your contract, and your value drops until you're out of the league.

Maxey - he has 3 years left on his contract and is RFA, which virtually means he is locked in for another 6-8 years. And there's no reason for him to request a trade.

Klutch sports & Rich Paul - they are the cancer of the league and should be extinct. They are not representing players but themselves. Can't wait for the day Lebron James retires. He created this monster.

[Tomjas]

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Double meaning?

Nah

Joel is a Real Madrid soccer fan and he was hoping that they completed a trade for Mbappe by today’s deadline

Didn’t happen so now have to wait until January window

[phifans]

Not surprised that Ben wants out at all.

Why act nothing has happened when everyone knows it's just a matter of time you will be traded sooner or later.

[Rastas]

Toronto won a ring and Kawhi still wanted out. The Spurs were coming off back to back 60+ win seasons and Kawhi wanted out. This is not about winning, that is for most of these guys utter tripe. It's about a big market and perks. When Butler demanded a trade while sabotaging the team he gave Minny 3 teams originally, all in NY or LA. He eventually accepted big market Philly, before leaving to the plush beaches of Miami. Davis wanted LA or nothing. Irving and Harden wanted to go to NY, Boston and Houston weren't big enough and they can hang out with their friends, etc. Simmons is doing much the same now, demanding one of 3 LA teams. I thought the current CBA struck a good balance, but it seems like it doesn't go far enough.

Thought most would be up to speed by now.
Ben or his reps have not made any Teams his preferred destination , that was just an ugly haters rumor designed for clicks.
He will gladly go anywhere.
But yeah that does not suit the he is a Diva agenda.
Tried to warn this board this was coming - though it came almost 2 weeks earlier than I expected. (something must of happened behind the scenes)
Next will be the Doctors Letter that will mean Philly has to pay him even without showing up.
All of the Negativeness seen today will be an added reason as to why Ben wont be returning.

Come on City of Brotherly Love, do you think Ben owes you still - even he played at AllStar levels , All NBA level and All NBA Defence Levels throughout his time here - Just let him leave and be classy about it - his problem is not so much with Philly or it wasn't, it was always with Embiid Ball.

[76ciology]

Toronto won a ring and Kawhi still wanted out. The Spurs were coming off back to back 60+ win seasons and Kawhi wanted out. This is not about winning, that is for most of these guys utter tripe. It's about a big market and perks. When Butler demanded a trade while sabotaging the team he gave Minny 3 teams originally, all in NY or LA. He eventually accepted big market Philly, before leaving to the plush beaches of Miami. Davis wanted LA or nothing. Irving and Harden wanted to go to NY, Boston and Houston weren't big enough and they can hang out with their friends, etc. Simmons is doing much the same now, demanding one of 3 LA teams. I thought the current CBA struck a good balance, but it seems like it doesn't go far enough.

Thought most would be up to speed by now.
Ben or his reps have not made any Teams his preferred destination , that was just an ugly haters rumor designed for clicks.
He will gladly go anywhere.
But yeah that does not suit the he is a Diva agenda.
Tried to warn this board this was coming - though it came almost 2 weeks earlier than I expected. (something must of happened behind the scenes)
Next will be the Doctors Letter that will mean Philly has to pay him even without showing up.
All of the Negativeness seen today will be an added reason as to why Ben wont be returning.

Come on City of Brotherly Love, do you think Ben owes you still - even he played at AllStar levels , All NBA level and All NBA Defence Levels throughout his time here - Just let him leave and be classy about it - his problem is not so much with Philly or it wasn't, it was always with Embiid Ball.

While reading your post, this is what i have in mind

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[76ciology]

Toronto won a ring and Kawhi still wanted out. The Spurs were coming off back to back 60+ win seasons and Kawhi wanted out. This is not about winning, that is for most of these guys utter tripe. It's about a big market and perks. When Butler demanded a trade while sabotaging the team he gave Minny 3 teams originally, all in NY or LA. He eventually accepted big market Philly, before leaving to the plush beaches of Miami. Davis wanted LA or nothing. Irving and Harden wanted to go to NY, Boston and Houston weren't big enough and they can hang out with their friends, etc. Simmons is doing much the same now, demanding one of 3 LA teams. I thought the current CBA struck a good balance, but it seems like it doesn't go far enough.

Thought most would be up to speed by now.
Ben or his reps have not made any Teams his preferred destination , that was just an ugly haters rumor designed for clicks.
He will gladly go anywhere.
But yeah that does not suit the he is a Diva agenda.
Tried to warn this board this was coming - though it came almost 2 weeks earlier than I expected. (something must of happened behind the scenes)
Next will be the Doctors Letter that will mean Philly has to pay him even without showing up.
All of the Negativeness seen today will be an added reason as to why Ben wont be returning.

Come on City of Brotherly Love, do you think Ben owes you still - even he played at AllStar levels , All NBA level and All NBA Defence Levels throughout his time here - Just let him leave and be classy about it - his problem is not so much with Philly or it wasn't, it was always with Embiid Ball.

While reading your post, this is what i have in mind

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But deep inside we know you like this

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[DWhiteMamba]

I think Ben has far more reason to ask for a trade than say Kawhi or Butler or even Harden. That doesn't make it any less unprofessional, and the people who are defending him by acting like he never said this or never said that; I mean these rumours are coming from his people, and he could easily dispel them. Klutch also has an MO, and this fits it. They don't get much benefit of the doubt. When Magic was doing terrible job trying to negotiate horrible offers to the Spurs for Kawhi, Klutch was trying to get Dejounte sent to LA as part of the deal (which didn't even include Ingram at that stage, if it ever did).

[Rastas]

I think Ben has far more reason to ask for a trade than say Kawhi or Butler or even Harden. That doesn't make it any less unprofessional, and the people who are defending him by acting like he never said this or never said that; I mean these rumours are coming from his people, and he could easily dispel them. Klutch also has an MO, and this fits it. They don't get much benefit of the doubt. When Magic was doing terrible job trying to negotiate horrible offers to the Spurs for Kawhi, Klutch was trying to get Dejounte sent to LA as part of the deal (which didn't even include Ingram at that stage, if it ever did).

Ok so you don't want to change your beliefs here - that's fine I totally understand that.
But if Ben ends up in say OKC or Detroit or somewhere like that (Please God not the Raps) then just maybe you may have been wrong in this occasion.
I'm under more pressure to be wrong as 2 of the leading contenders for him are in Cali already, and I personally believe Philly don't want to trade him in the East.
Let's see how this all plays out - been a very unboring offseason.

[DWhiteMamba]

Simmons may very well be talked down to being more flexible in his location. I just note that it's very believable that they tried to get him to an Cali team.

[GuideDog]

I'm content if we can trade Ben to Detroit for Jerami Grant and Kilian Hayes.