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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#361 » by The Guilty Party » Fri Jul 2, 2010 8:37 pm

** I'm basing this off some "experts" and "insiders" belief that... 1) Portland is interested in David Lee (that's from David Aldridge) and... 2) LaMarcus Aldridge is on the trade block (Chad Ford).

Since I do prefer LaMarcus Aldridge and his contract over David Lee and the massive coin he's about to be paid, I would do the following deal...

To PHI: LaMarcus Aldridge
To NYK: Andre Iguodala
To POR: David Lee (S&T)

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Holiday
Turner
Young
Aldridge
Hawes/Brand

Knicks
Douglas
Iguodala
Chandler
Gallinari
Stoudemire

Blazers
Miller
Roy
Batum
Lee
Oden
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#362 » by ZarcMumoff » Fri Jul 2, 2010 8:42 pm

I would do that trade, TGP. 18/8 PF (I know there are some worries in his game so don't shoot the messenger), only 24. Probably the best offer we could get. Would do that SOB in a second.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#363 » by BringBackKorver » Fri Jul 2, 2010 8:46 pm

Personally I don't think a Lee S&T is worth Iguodala, so I'd like to try and get Chandler or something in the deal...

I'm just not a huge fan of Trading Iguodala to bring in Brand's replacement right now. I really want to see if Brand can come out of the gates strong this year, but maybe I'm a bit delusional.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#364 » by thaddeusyoungin » Fri Jul 2, 2010 9:48 pm

Sixers out- Iggy, Williams, Green, Smith, 2011 2nd round pick
Sixers in- Radmanovic, Foster, Horford, Rush

Hawks out- Williams, Bibby, Horford
Hawks in- Iggy, Williams, Smith, 2012 2nd round pick GSW

Warriors out- Radmanovic, 2011 2nd round pick, 2012 2nd round pick
Warriors in- Williams

Pacers out- Foster, Rush
Pacers in- Bibby, Green, 2011 2nd round pick from GSW, 2011 2nd round pick from PHI

For Sixers- Trading Iggy opens up playing time for Young. Rush is a sniper from 3 which is something the Sixers will need with Turner drawing all the defense's attention. Horford can come in and start at center. Radmanovic and Foster both expire after the 2010-2011 season.

For Hawks- Bibby and Williams are on the trading block already. Horford and Josh Smith can't continue to be starters together when both are barely over 6-9. Iggy would be a nice compliment to Joe Johnson. Lou would start at the point.

For Warriors- They've been rumored to be interested in Williams and giving up a useless expiring and 2 second round picks is a fair price.

For Pacers- They need a starting point guard and Bibby can be that guy for the next 2 years to help stabilize things. Rush is expendable with Granger at the 3 and the recent drafting of Paul George and Lance Stephenson.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#365 » by BringBackKorver » Fri Jul 2, 2010 9:53 pm

Don't see a reason why the Hawks would want to trade Horford.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#366 » by Foshan » Sat Jul 3, 2010 2:36 am

The Guilty Party wrote:** I'm basing this off some "experts" and "insiders" belief that... 1) Portland is interested in David Lee (that's from David Aldridge) and... 2) LaMarcus Aldridge is on the trade block (Chad Ford).

Since I do prefer LaMarcus Aldridge and his contract over David Lee and the massive coin he's about to be paid, I would do the following deal...

To PHI: LaMarcus Aldridge
To NYK: Andre Iguodala
To POR: David Lee (S&T)

76ers
Holiday
Turner
Young
Aldridge
Hawes/Brand

Knicks
Douglas
Iguodala
Chandler
Gallinari
Stoudemire

Blazers
Miller
Roy
Batum
Lee
Oden


oof, sorry TGP, but i think if we want Aldridge all we need to do is play Speights more. Soft jump shooting PF. I'd almost rather work out a deal with NY directly, maybe Gallo/Douglas/Curry/3M if they want Iggy. I think gallo/Thad would really compliment eachother at the 3/4.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#367 » by ZarcMumoff » Sat Jul 3, 2010 3:09 am

We would get raped if we had Young and Gallinari at 3 and 4.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#368 » by 76ciology » Sat Jul 3, 2010 3:17 am

The Guilty Party wrote:** I'm basing this off some "experts" and "insiders" belief that... 1) Portland is interested in David Lee (that's from David Aldridge) and... 2) LaMarcus Aldridge is on the trade block (Chad Ford).

Since I do prefer LaMarcus Aldridge and his contract over David Lee and the massive coin he's about to be paid, I would do the following deal...

To PHI: LaMarcus Aldridge
To NYK: Andre Iguodala
To POR: David Lee (S&T)

76ers
Holiday
Turner
Young
Aldridge
Hawes/Brand

Knicks
Douglas
Iguodala
Chandler
Gallinari
Stoudemire

Blazers
Miller
Roy
Batum
Lee
Oden


Again, I'd do that trade.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#369 » by thaddeusyoungin » Sat Jul 3, 2010 3:18 am

PK5 wrote:We would get raped if we had Young and Gallinari at 3 and 4.


Young would be the 6th man. Or we could look to trade him.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#370 » by 76ciology » Sat Jul 3, 2010 3:58 am

mhd wrote:Min trades:
1) Jefferson
2) Webster
3) Brewer
for:
1) Iggy
2) Diaw

Bobcats trade:
1) Diaw
2) Diop
for:
1) Brand

Philly trades:
1) Brand
2) Iggy
for:
1) Jefferson
2) Corey Brewer
3) Diop
4) Webster

NEW LINEUPS:
Philly:
PG: Holliday/Williams
SG: Turner/Green
SF: Webster/Brewer
PF: Young/Nocioni
C: Jefferson/Sepights/Diop

Bobcats:
PG: Felton/Augustine
SG: Jackson/Henderson
SF: Wallace/Brown
PF: Brand/Thomas
C: Chandler/Nazr/Ajinca

Min:
PG: Flynn/Sessions
SG: Iggy/Ellington
SF: Johnson/Hayward
PF: Love/Diaw
C: Darko/Perkovic

WHY FOR THE T'Wolves?
1) Get a perfect slasher to slide next to Johnson and Flynn.
2) Diaw is a good 6th man type.

WHY FOR THE Bobcats?
1) Its actually cap neutral for 2 years as Diaw+Diop make roughly the same as Brand, then Brand becomes an expiring (same time as Diop). Bobcats gamble on Brand.

WHY FOR THE 76ers?
1) Webster provides needed outside shooting to pair with Turner and Holliday. Young can slide to the PF slot, while Brewer provides a nice reserve at the wing positions.
2) Jefferson provides the low post threat for Turner. Jefferson is still quite young as well.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#371 » by sem3376 » Sat Jul 3, 2010 4:09 am

Jefferson although listed at 6'10" when drafted was mesured at 6'8" so I don't want noooo parts of jefferson unless we are giving up, speights,williams or young. He is not worth anyone worth as much as iggy or close.and with young and jefferson starting we would get pounded on the boards and are shots blocked 10 times a game. Another thing is jefferson played for a horendous 15 win team with no offensive talent and he only could score 20 a game. Put him on a decesnt team and that drops at least 5 points a game. Could you imagine that front line against any team with legit size, sorta like an NBA team they would get crushed!!!
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#372 » by youngcrev » Sat Jul 3, 2010 4:15 am

I'd do that Jefferson/Webster for Iguodala/Brand trade. He forgot Hawes in his rotations.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#373 » by sixerswillrule » Sat Jul 3, 2010 4:16 am

sem3376 wrote:Jefferson although listed at 6'10" when drafted was mesured at 6'8" so I don't want noooo parts of jefferson


6'8.5", and heights are supposed to be according to players in shoes, so yeah he's about 6'10". If you want to laugh at listings, look at Iguodala and Beasley. Beasley is 1 inch taller but according to those websites he is 4 inches taller.

I think Iguodala and Jefferson's values are close. Not saying that I would make the trade because the fit isn't great right now, but just in general. Put a defensive big like Noah next to Jefferson and they would complement each other very nicely.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#374 » by sem3376 » Sat Jul 3, 2010 4:25 am

I have higher expectations for the sixers long term bigs then for one of the to be al jefferson. He is a good player not great and to ever win anything with him you would probobly have to pair him with a future hall of famer at power forward. He is to limited and at 6'8" he will be chasing a lot of balls to half court with the slop he likes to throw up.on espn they only show his highlights, I have watched a ton of minn games with the ticket and he's nothing special and by the way I am not trying to be fresh here but since when did we start measuring or careing how big a guy is in sneakers??? Remember the movie fletch? He was 6' but 6'6" with the afro.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#375 » by 76ciology » Sat Jul 3, 2010 4:28 am

sem3376 wrote:Jefferson although listed at 6'10" when drafted was mesured at 6'8" so I don't want noooo parts of jefferson unless we are giving up, speights,williams or young. He is not worth anyone worth as much as iggy or close.and with young and jefferson starting we would get pounded on the boards and are shots blocked 10 times a game. Another thing is jefferson played for a horendous 15 win team with no offensive talent and he only could score 20 a game. Put him on a decesnt team and that drops at least 5 points a game. Could you imagine that front line against any team with legit size, sorta like an NBA team they would get crushed!!!


Jefferson has 9'2" standing reach. That's the same reach with guys like Hawes (7'1"). That's like having two seven footers on the PF and C position.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#376 » by sixerswillrule » Sat Jul 3, 2010 4:32 am

and by the way I am not trying to be fresh here but since when did we start measuring or careing how big a guy is in sneakers???


For a long time. Do you call Young 6'6", Ben Gordon 6'1", etc. ?
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#377 » by ZarcMumoff » Sat Jul 3, 2010 4:45 am

sem3376 wrote:I have higher expectations for the sixers long term bigs then for one of the to be al jefferson. He is a good player not great and to ever win anything with him you would probobly have to pair him with a future hall of famer at power forward. He is to limited and at 6'8" he will be chasing a lot of balls to half court with the slop he likes to throw up.on espn they only show his highlights, I have watched a ton of minn games with the ticket and he's nothing special and by the way I am not trying to be fresh here but since when did we start measuring or careing how big a guy is in sneakers???

Because they play in sneakers...
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#378 » by BringBackKorver » Sat Jul 3, 2010 5:36 am

I personally go off their actual height, but that's just because I'm a stickler for facts. I don't think you should have to adjust your feelings about a player just because he switches from some low Reeboks to some platform Jordans.

For example, Aldrich gains 2.25 inches with his shoes, while Turner / Aminu gain 1.25 inches. Does this mean Aldrich is an extra inch taller when it comes down to it? Because to me, Aldrich is 6'9 and Turner is 6'5.75, not Aldrich at 6'11.25 and Turner at 6'7

Heck, if Turner gets some platforms do we start calling him 6'8? That's what I don't like. Shoes aren't set throughout the league, so it biases the statistics in my mind.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#379 » by sixerswillrule » Sat Jul 3, 2010 5:55 am

Ignore the in shoes measurements from the combine. Those are pointless. Just add 1-1.5 inches to their heights without shoes. That way it's the same for everyone. Right?
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Post#380 » by BringBackKorver » Sat Jul 3, 2010 6:03 am

sixerswillrule wrote:Ignore the in shoes measurements from the combine. Those are pointless. Just add 1-1.5 inches to their heights without shoes. That way it's the same for everyone. Right?


Well no, because not everyone wears the same shoes in the games. That's what I'm saying...For something so exact, I find it ridiculous to use such an inexact method. There aren't many players in the league that it makes much of a difference for, but when I go to the doctor, I take off my shoes. When they go to the combine, they take off their shoes. If it doesn't matter whatsoever, why do they do it? They do it so you know exactly what you're getting into.

It's really not a big deal, but when someone asks me how tall I am, I answer my real height, not "well I'm between 6'1 and 6'3 depending on what shoes I'm wearing..." So I go off the same for players. Aldrich is 6'9 and that's a scientific fact. How high he is off the ground when he steps on the court, I don't know, you don't know, and he probably doesn't know. But everyone knows he is 6 foot 9.

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