Sixers Offseason thread/ sixerfan1976 updated to page 84

[NJ SixerFan]

Krazy, you've been pretty dead on with your posts. I will be so sad/upset if we pass on Drummond for Henson. I really will. Additionally, if we keep 15 we can likely get Perry Jones or Jared Sullinger and have our 4/5 of the future set along with our 1/2 or 1/3 in Holiday/Turner. But really, what world are we living in where Drummond is not an automatic pick over Henson?

Holiday
Turner
Jefferson/Wright
#15/Young/Allen
Drummond/Vucevic

One can only hope this is how it shakes out, use the amnesty money to address the shooting woes.
Also if the pick is someone like sullinger maybe we can find a beneficial way to get out of the mistake in Thads contract.. Really young team with big possible upside, probably not competing in year one putting sixers in possible situation for high draft pick in 2013..

Jrue
Shabazz?
ET
PJ3 or sullinger
Drummond

Now that's rebuilding I want to see.

[76erStu]

i like henson. i don't like him enough to pay richard jefferson $21 million over the next 2 years.

agree w/this to a T. Id rather do the Toronto deal. Henson will still be there at 8 if that is who we want. Id rather give up 15 then take on RJ's contract which takes us out of FA next off-season.

[Typeical]

The GSW trade is solid because get to keep the 15th pick and we also add some vets which we would need.John henson's frame worries me though. I'm not sure he puts on enough weight and strength to be a starter in this league.

@ sixersfan1976 . What about meyers leonard have they shown any interest in him?

[sixerfan1976]

Hence the dilemna. Toronto gets us calderon and say henson and maybe es davis but we lose 15.

[Do the Jrue]

Henson is a WINNING type of player and the best possible teammate you could ask for. He went against guys that were supposed to be bigger and stronger than him every game and they still couldn't get their shot off on him. Dude owned Terrence Jones and CJ Leslie's souls when he faced them this year. I'm really against trading with GS though if we have to take on Jefferson. We're trading away our best player so we can have our younger player play in his natural position....only to bring in an even older player that would hop into Iggy's spot and continue to have Turner playing out of position at SG for atleast the next two years. That would be the dumbest thing we could do. I think it would really benefit the Raptors to land Iguodala and we would still be able to draft Henson there since it would be before Detroit picks.

And if what Sixerfan said about wanting to trade for the Thunder's #28 pick is true then I hope we can get our hands on Evan Fournier. 6'6 shooting guard who's only 19 years old and can REALLY shoot the ball. He has Manu-like craftyness and can be our 2 guard of the future. That kid is gonna be the steal of the draft for someone in the late 1st/early 2nd.

[timbramblehashugeteeth]

We most likely would draft drummond and be instantly solid with bigs..than amnesty brand and Sign andre miller, carl landry, and steve novak...our bench woul be really good

[Sixerscan]

not just free agency. you don't trade iguodala for a lottery pick and then also expect to be a better team in the next two years. to rebuild properly you need to utilize cap space to acquire assets like future 1sts from teams over the luxury tax.

the plan has to either be:

Don't trade Iguodala, use other assets to make a contender
Trade Iguodala for a veteran at another position and use other assets to make a contender
Trade Iguodala for a draft pick and cap relief and start a multi-year rebuilding plan.

anything else makes zero sense.

[sixerfan1976]

Havent heard about meyers leonard

[EugeneBWhitaker]

anything else makes zero sense.

I really can't remember a sixers offense where moves (or lack thereof) as a whole made sense

[Sixerscan]

Hence the dilemna. Toronto gets us calderon and say henson and maybe es davis but we lose 15.

Really if they truly are crazy about Henson and don't see any other way to get him, I can live with losing 15. Much moreso than taking on a bad contract. Just think of Davis as the #15 pick.

*This is just picking between the two scenarios. I'd rather wait for them to drop the #15 request or just not do either deal. But if they did the deal with #15 it wouldn't be the end of the world.

[sixerfan1976]

Sorry bout thw post, my phone acting up

[JordanMars]

Id take on Jefferson, if it meant we were getting Drummond and PJ3.

[freshie2]

Hence the dilemna. Toronto gets us calderon and say henson and maybe es davis but we lose 15.

Really if they truly are crazy about Henson and don't see any other way to get him, I can live with losing 15. Much moreso than taking on a bad contract. Just think of Davis as the #15 pick.

*This is just picking between the two scenarios. I'd rather wait for them to drop the #15 request or just not do either deal. But if they did the deal with #15 it wouldn't be the end of the world.

Agree...Calderon is a solid backup, and you have your main guard rotation in place. You get the big you are targeting, and can always use the 2 second round picks to get another SF, or be aggressive in FA and try to bring in Green or Batum to be the SF of the future. You also have 4 young bigs, two of which give you additional length/athleticism which was sorely missed last year. I'd prefer keeping 15 as well, but if they are that high on Henson (there is a lot to like if he can stay healthy) then I'm OK with it...but I'm ok with the GSW deal as well...would prefer Biedrens over Jefferson, but it still is addressing a need through the draft pick.

[Do the Jrue]

Gerald Green should be NOBODY'S target as their SF of the future just because he had a nice second half of the season last year. Especially us since we're essentially saying Turner is our SF of the future with the Iggy trade. We need a SG, PF, C and backup PG.

[freshie2]

Gerald Green should be NOBODY'S target as their SF of the future just because he had a nice second half of the season last year. Especially us since we're essentially saying Turner is our SF of the future with the Iggy trade. We need a SG, PF, C and backup PG.

Jeff Green was my reference...sorry for the confusion. If they move Iguodala, I would like to have a long/versatil SF replace him...hence Green (more combo 3-4) or Batum (more combo 2-3).

[51X3RF4N]

Can someone explain rebouding percentage stat to me? I see numbers like 22.1 and 28.6 but I don't know what it means. Is it like rebounds per minute or something?

What's the deal with Dorrell Wright? I haven't seen him play since Miami, but I know he hits 3pt shots well. Is he an above average defender?

Would GS technically be able to amnesty Richard Jefferson and then just absorb Andre's contract? So the Sixers would get Wright and #7 for Iggy? If that's possible in any way, I'd hope the Sixers counter with that offer. Otherwise I'll take the Toronto deal or possibly look at Portland. Offer them Turner, #15, and a future pick for Wes Matthews and #6. Solves the SG/scorer problem and adds a big like Drummond or Henson. Then Dre can be traded for a PF or something.

[Do the Jrue]

I really don't like Jeff Green and he's more of a PF than anything. And even after trading Iguodala we won't be nearly bad enough to win the lottery next year.

[Typeical]

Hence the dilemna. Toronto gets us calderon and say henson and maybe es davis but we lose 15.

If they do acquire the 7th pick and get the guy they want(drummond or henson). Wouldnt it make since for them to trade back to the celtics and get the 21 & 22

That way we can walk away with say Drummond(hopefully) @ 7 than pick up Quincy Miller and Doron Lamb. That way we walk away from the draft with high potential guys that fit a need and a shooter in Lamb.

[phillysixed]

Would rather deal with GS for their pick instead of TOR....... Stefanski knows Iguodala's value better than anyone out there and we can do better than moving up 7 spots and giving up our pick in the process.

[Sixerscan]

Can someone explain rebouding percentage stat to me? I see numbers like 22.1 and 28.6 but I don't know what it means. Is it like rebounds per minute or something?

Also, consider this: The Sixers have made the decision to build a team like the OKC Thunder. Henson or Drummond become your defensive bigs like Ibaka and Perkins. Then they go sign a defensive big FA to fill the other slot. Jrue is your Westbrook type player at PG (he needs a LOT more motivation to be that good). Ross is your Sefalosha/Harden type player. Turner is the unknown that OKC really doesn't have at the moment. Vucevic is your Nick Collison look a like. And you get rid of Iggy to make it happen, so you suck real bad and win the lottery next season, drafting your Durant in Shabazz.

Jrue
Ross
Shabazz
Free agent
Drummond

with Turner/Allen/Vucevic/Thad off the bench. Sign me up!

It's how many rebounds you grab divided by an estimate of the total rebounds that occur while you are on the floor. If there are 100 total rebounds in a game, and you grab 10 while playing half the game (so its assumed that there are 50 available boards while you are in) your rebound percentage is 20% (10/50)

Again like I said, I'm pretty sure knobbles numbers are wrong, or maybe we are talking about two different things.