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Noel's Trade Value is at its Highest Now

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Which option do you prefer?

Keep Noel knowing he won't play more than 20 minutes per night but you get 48 minutes of rim protection with him and Embiid while paying Noel max or near max money
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61%
Trade Noel for someone like Ross or Powell or a player of that caliber who will get more minutes and could play 25-30 minutes at a position of need
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39%
 
Total votes: 98

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Re: RE: Re: Noel's Trade Value is at its Highest Now 

Post#361 » by kukenotas » Wed Feb 1, 2017 11:22 pm

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bedjawII wrote:
mithrandir17 wrote:
I'm not sure if I want to tie up our capspace to lowry for the max contract until he is 34 yrs old. His cap numbers would be 36M, 37.8M, 39.6M and 41.4M. If we match max offer to Nerlens, that is already 50M for just 2 players and we are not yet sure if we can compete with Cleveland for the next 4 years.


Don't worry about competing with Cleveland. It would quite ok to use cap space on Lowry (or anyone else) even if we don't compete during their contract. This team will be competitive as long as JE and BS are playing and the trick will be to find another "max guy" to filter in. We have about 10 years with these two guys in their prime. They will have a changing cast surrounding them. No problem in starting now and seeing who fits where with these two. What you can't do is blow cap space on guys who just aren't worth it. Lowry is worth it, fills a need nd should be an impact player through the life of a 5 year deal.


Agree that Lowry is one of the few free agents who is worth a MAX. He's been sensational this year. And it would only be a 4 year deal, so we'd have him from age 31-34. Sure it would probably be an overpay the last 2 years, however this team would be an instant contender next year by adding Lowry.

No, no and one more time no to lawry! Havent u all seen last years raptors playoffs??? Derezan and lawry since playoffs game 1 were the 2 worst shooters in all playoffs! Raptors got so far in last years playoofs cos other players carried them all until cavs destroyed them.
Lawry and derozan are the most selfish and overated players in entire league. So why we need to give max to veteran who possible will get 41 mil at age 34- how many players are worth 41 mil at age 34? Plus very soon we will have to pay and pay a lot to our players like corvington, noel, saric, embiid will get max very soon.
So we in 3 years we would have:
Embiid max; lawry max, noel max, will be paying real money to corvington, tj, and we will have soon to exteand simons. No money no honey

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Re: Noel's Trade Value is at its Highest Now 

Post#362 » by AI_Efficiency » Wed Feb 1, 2017 11:26 pm

Arsenal wrote:
AI_Efficiency wrote:Can we offer Covington an extension this summer. I think he's in the last year of his deal next year. With him seemingly improving each year I wonder if it makes sense to try and lock him up longterm this summer rather than let him play out his last year.


Absolutely yes. If we aren't able to land a big fish (e.g. Lowry) and have cap room to spare, the best use of it would be to Renegotiate and Extend Covington. We give him a lot more money ($20M?) next season, then get him for much less the 3-4 seasons after that. That way he's locked in for a bargain contract (ala Jae Crowder) in the future when we need to pay the big bucks to Embiid and everyone else.

I was just reading and if i'm understanding the CBA correctly we should be able to give Covington an extension over the summer where 15% of the salary can go towards the cap in the form of a signing bonus. Because we will have his Bird rights we could also structure his contract so that it decreases by 7.5% each year. I wonder if we could ask him to take a lot of money up front so the cap hit is much smaller on the back end when we are looking to commit big money to our other guys.

Edit: actually the extension part might not make sense since I think he would be capped on how high the new contract could go and given hes paid so little now its unlikely he would do it.
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Re: Noel's Trade Value is at its Highest Now 

Post#363 » by kukenotas » Wed Feb 1, 2017 11:31 pm

If we are thinkin about lawry and max- then instead i would throw all i' ve got for buttler- lakers pick, sacramento 2019 maybe one 2nd rounder and okafor and would give stauskas as present so i dont have to hope that his menthal issues are gone or comming back

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Re: Noel's Trade Value is at its Highest Now 

Post#364 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Thu Feb 2, 2017 12:06 am

Are you misspelling Lowry on purpose? Lawry reminds me of Bad Boys where Martin Lawrence is all "Mike Lawry".
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Re: Noel's Trade Value is at its Highest Now 

Post#365 » by Arsenal » Thu Feb 2, 2017 12:19 am

kukenotas wrote:If we are thinkin about lawry and max- then instead i would throw all i' ve got for buttler- lakers pick, sacramento 2019 maybe one 2nd rounder and okafor and would give stauskas as present so i dont have to hope that his menthal issues are gone or comming back

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So your plan is to trade away a ton of assets for Butler, but you don't want to sign Lowry where it only costs money? I really hope Snake and Son don't think this way.

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