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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#361 » by mjkvol » Thu Nov 18, 2021 10:36 pm

Madd Squabbles wrote:Just visited the Kings board. It seems like the fans have turned on Fox and are ready to see him traded for just about anyone that can help the team. Some think they should have traded for Simmons during the Summer and now feel like the time has passed and that the Sixers are no longer interested because of Fox's poor play.

I would personally still love a Simmons for Fox trade. Simmons is a flawed player and he will bring back a flawed player in my opinion. It's frustrating when the people of this board love pointing out the flaws of every player considered for Simmons while forgetting the glaring flaws Simmons has.


I'm not sure you've paid very close attention here if you believe that this board in any way, shape or form downplays, much less forgets Simmons' glaring flaws.

The exceptions being the Aussie contingent that have come to be known as 'Ben-Stans'.
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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#362 » by MVP1992 » Thu Nov 18, 2021 10:49 pm

mjkvol wrote:
Madd Squabbles wrote:Just visited the Kings board. It seems like the fans have turned on Fox and are ready to see him traded for just about anyone that can help the team. Some think they should have traded for Simmons during the Summer and now feel like the time has passed and that the Sixers are no longer interested because of Fox's poor play.

I would personally still love a Simmons for Fox trade. Simmons is a flawed player and he will bring back a flawed player in my opinion. It's frustrating when the people of this board love pointing out the flaws of every player considered for Simmons while forgetting the glaring flaws Simmons has.


I'm not sure you've paid very close attention here if you believe that this board in any way, shape or form downplays, much less forgets Simmons' glaring flaws.

The exceptions being the Aussie contingent that have come to be known as 'Ben-Stans'.



Not all Aussies on here are "Ben-Stans"

I adopted the 76ers once Ben was drafted. I had no team. As good a reason as any. I now enjoy the love/hate relationship that comes with this team rollercoaster ride. :D :banghead:

Now I'd pack his bags for him :nod:
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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#363 » by Arsenal » Thu Nov 18, 2021 11:19 pm

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Arsenal wrote:The inevitable solution feels like De'Aaron Fox. It's good enough as he's a "star". After a year or two we can choose between keeping him or Maxey as our long-term PG. The other gets packaged for our 3rd star.


Agreed. Just get that done and let's move on to the next issue of Tobias.


If only it really was seen as an issue with management.


It wasn't an issue with the previous inept management, but it is now with Morey. But he's not a magician so it will take time.
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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#364 » by mjkvol » Thu Nov 18, 2021 11:30 pm

Arsenal wrote:
mjkvol wrote:
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Agreed. Just get that done and let's move on to the next issue of Tobias.


If only it really was seen as an issue with management.


It wasn't an issue with the previous inept management, but it is now with Morey. But he's not a magician so it will take time.


Is it really? If there has been the slightest indication, I've certainly missed it, but I hope you're right. I don't have high expectations for this season anyway, but by next season Morey should have the group he is working toward
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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#365 » by mjkvol » Thu Nov 18, 2021 11:30 pm

Arsenal wrote:
mjkvol wrote:
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Agreed. Just get that done and let's move on to the next issue of Tobias.


If only it really was seen as an issue with management.


It wasn't an issue with the previous inept management, but it is now with Morey. But he's not a magician so it will take time.


Is it really? If there has been the slightest indication, I've certainly missed it, but I hope you're right. I don't have high expectations for this season anyway, but by next season Morey should have the group he is working toward building.
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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#366 » by mjkvol » Thu Nov 18, 2021 11:44 pm

MVP1992 wrote:
mjkvol wrote:
Madd Squabbles wrote:Just visited the Kings board. It seems like the fans have turned on Fox and are ready to see him traded for just about anyone that can help the team. Some think they should have traded for Simmons during the Summer and now feel like the time has passed and that the Sixers are no longer interested because of Fox's poor play.

I would personally still love a Simmons for Fox trade. Simmons is a flawed player and he will bring back a flawed player in my opinion. It's frustrating when the people of this board love pointing out the flaws of every player considered for Simmons while forgetting the glaring flaws Simmons has.


I'm not sure you've paid very close attention here if you believe that this board in any way, shape or form downplays, much less forgets Simmons' glaring flaws.

The exceptions being the Aussie contingent that have come to be known as 'Ben-Stans'.



Not all Aussies on here are "Ben-Stans"

I adopted the 76ers once Ben was drafted. I had no team. As good a reason as any. I now enjoy the love/hate relationship that comes with this team rollercoaster ride. :D :banghead:

Now I'd pack his bags for him :nod:


I stand corrected - some Aussies.
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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#367 » by Tomjas » Thu Nov 18, 2021 11:52 pm

mjkvol wrote:
MVP1992 wrote:
mjkvol wrote:
I'm not sure you've paid very close attention here if you believe that this board in any way, shape or form downplays, much less forgets Simmons' glaring flaws.

The exceptions being the Aussie contingent that have come to be known as 'Ben-Stans'.



Not all Aussies on here are "Ben-Stans"

I adopted the 76ers once Ben was drafted. I had no team. As good a reason as any. I now enjoy the love/hate relationship that comes with this team rollercoaster ride. :D :banghead:

Now I'd pack his bags for him :nod:


I stand corrected - some Aussies.


When was the last time anyone defended Ben?
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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#368 » by MVP1992 » Thu Nov 18, 2021 11:59 pm

Tomjas wrote:
mjkvol wrote:
MVP1992 wrote:

Not all Aussies on here are "Ben-Stans"

I adopted the 76ers once Ben was drafted. I had no team. As good a reason as any. I now enjoy the love/hate relationship that comes with this team rollercoaster ride. :D :banghead:

Now I'd pack his bags for him :nod:


I stand corrected - some Aussies.


When was the last time anyone defended Ben?



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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#369 » by Tomjas » Fri Nov 19, 2021 12:04 am

MVP1992 wrote:
Tomjas wrote:
mjkvol wrote:
I stand corrected - some Aussies.


When was the last time anyone defended Ben?



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We have two overall No.1 drafted players in the NBA and both are non playing head-cases

Our pain is real :nonono:


Don’t forget Bogut

3/3 first pick headcases :lol:
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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#370 » by Bum Adebayo » Fri Nov 19, 2021 12:05 am

Fox would be a steal for Simmons, we shouldn't feel disappointed if we get him. Simmons is a bit overrated even by non Aussie fans here, the truth is that he feasts on RS when there is not much defense played, and because All Star Game motivates him like there is no tomorrow, but dude just isn't very good when it matters.
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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#371 » by MVP1992 » Fri Nov 19, 2021 12:28 am

Tomjas wrote:
MVP1992 wrote:
Tomjas wrote:
When was the last time anyone defended Ben?



@mjkvol
We have two overall No.1 drafted players in the NBA and both are non playing head-cases

Our pain is real :nonono:


Don’t forget Bogut

3/3 first pick headcases :lol:



Yeah true.

Another reason to build a wall around Melbourne :lol:

I've been suffering on the South East coast of Vic thanks to the COVID cesspool that is Melbourne and surrounding areas.
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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#372 » by Tomjas » Fri Nov 19, 2021 12:42 am

MVP1992 wrote:
Tomjas wrote:
MVP1992 wrote:

@mjkvol
We have two overall No.1 drafted players in the NBA and both are non playing head-cases

Our pain is real :nonono:


Don’t forget Bogut

3/3 first pick headcases :lol:



Yeah true.

Another reason to build a wall around Melbourne :lol:

I've been suffering on the South East coast of Vic thanks to the COVID cesspool that is Melbourne and surrounding areas.


My sympathies

The situation down there has been truly bleak

Hope that you’re not near Lorne as it’s about to be invaded by disease ridden schoolies
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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#373 » by Kobblehead » Fri Nov 19, 2021 12:56 am

I want Fox on the Sixers just so some of ya'll can see how much of a defensive stud he really is. Crazy to me that some view him as a sieve.
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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#374 » by dkb965 » Fri Nov 19, 2021 1:39 am

This works in the ESPN trade machine. Who says no?

Ben Simmons
Paul Reed

for

Dejoute Murray
Keldon Johnson
Lonnie Walker IV
Thad Young

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MurrayMaxey/Milton
Curry/Green/Korkmaz/Walker IV
Johnson/Thybulle/Niang
Harris/Young
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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#375 » by KramerDSP » Fri Nov 19, 2021 1:43 am

Pompey just put something up:

https://www.inquirer.com/sixers/sixers-ben-simmons-trade-rumors-james-harden-jerami-grant-20211118.html

Basically, it sounds like there is smoke around us chasing for Jeremi Grant, with some variations including Olynyk and/or Bey, and others focusing on picks going out with Grant.

Then there’s a nugget about half the FO wanting to hold Simmons all year so they can pursue a Harden sign and trade.

”The team has engaged in ongoing discussions with the Detroit Pistons to acquire Grant, another forward, a young player, and a draft pick in exchange for Simmons, league sources said. One source said power forward/center Kelly Olynyk and second-year swingman Saddiq Bey were mentioned as players who could be included in a possible deal. However, a source said the Pistons are unlikely to include Bey, a Villanova product, or Olynyk.

A person close to the Sixers said the team would want a more high-profile player than Grant in exchange for Simmons. The source added that the team hasn’t spoken to the Pistons lately.

But multiple sources said the Sixers have, and that the discussions were centered around Grant. The Athletic reported Thursday the Sixers have a list of 30 players they’d accept in a Simmons trade.

However, several members of the front office are keen on the idea of keeping Simmons this season and pursuing Harden from the Brooklyn Nets for a sign and trade, according to multiple sources.”
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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#376 » by jotachase » Fri Nov 19, 2021 1:48 am

The source added that the team hasn’t spoken to the Pistons lately.
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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#377 » by SixthStreet » Fri Nov 19, 2021 1:48 am

Pompey just lifted that entire thing from Sam Amick's piece in the Athletic from this morning. He doesn't do any of his own work.
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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#378 » by KramerDSP » Fri Nov 19, 2021 1:51 am

Who bites on Simmons and Shake for Grant, Olynyk, DET 23, DET 25?
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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#379 » by Kobblehead » Fri Nov 19, 2021 1:59 am

Morey definitely demanded Cunningham which is probably why talks stopped lmao.
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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#380 » by KramerDSP » Fri Nov 19, 2021 2:35 am

jotachase wrote:The source added that the team hasn’t spoken to the Pistons lately.


He uses “but multiple sources say the Sixers have, with discussions...,” suggesting they actually have talked recently. But it is Pompey so who knows.
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