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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#361 » by M2J » Thu Feb 1, 2024 8:45 pm

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I don't think that'll happen, but I do recommend shutting him down until after the AS break. Kendrick Perkins is a buffoon, but I don't completely disagree with him here like I usually do. Also, Woj is spot on about us being lotto team if we do decide to call it.


I realize this is a crazy thought, but how about we shut Embiid down for the exact amount of time his knee requires instead of setting up random return dates based on sticking our pointer fingers in the air?

Why is this being approached like some impossibly difficult puzzle? Have a competent medical professional diagnose him (we admittedly might have to hire one first) and establish the timeline, whether it's a week, a month or a year. This isn't complicated.


Being rational has no place on the internet sir! There are plenty of Sixer fan knuckheads following this stoopid line of thought. There are like two and a half months to the playoffs. Unless some kind of testing comes back that says Embiid can't heal within this team frame he'll be back and should be back if he gets legit medical clearance from the team doctors. Kendrick Perkins is an idiot. Ive been as hard on the medical staff as anyone but what happened on Tuesday is not as negligent as it seems. Embiid has been suffereing from knee inflamation which is not the result of any kind of specific injury (its just his knee reacting poorly to the day to day grind of basketball on a huge frame) so its a day by day thing that is very difficult to judge whether a guy can play on it or not. Embiid was not 100% healthy when he put 70 on the Pistons. Where the Sixers should be dinged is he should have not come out for the second half of the game against the Warriors it was obvious the pain was too much.





But it is a bit negligent to make that player with those issues the highest usage player in the sport by far, and that's not including relying even heavier on him to do all of the rebounding and defense. When the team has assets available
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#362 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Thu Feb 1, 2024 10:40 pm

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Ahhh. Perkins :lol:

Bob Meyer thought that was insane.

Wilbon thought they could do it for the regular season and play him in postseason.

Woj: They would be a lottery :nod:


I don't think that'll happen, but I do recommend shutting him down until after the AS break. Kendrick Perkins is a buffoon, but I don't completely disagree with him here like I usually do. Also, Woj is spot on about us being lotto team if we do decide to call it.


I realize this is a crazy thought, but how about we shut Embiid down for the exact amount of time his knee requires instead of setting up random return dates based on sticking our pointer fingers in the air?

Why is this being approached like some impossibly difficult puzzle? Have a competent medical professional diagnose him (we admittedly might have to hire one first) and establish the timeline, whether it's a week, a month or a year. This isn't complicated.


That's not necessarily what I was doing. I was suggesting that Perkins is of course overreacting as he usually does. He's an idiot and that's no secret.

As for me personally, I suggested Feb 24 which would give an inflamed knee ample time to settle down. I'm not exactly sure on how long he would need to sit because I'm no doctor, but if the goal is to have him healthy and at 100% again, then that timeframe should give him plenty of time to not only get the inflammation down, but also physically get himself back where he needs to be for the stretch run.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#363 » by M2J » Thu Feb 1, 2024 10:52 pm

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:
GutUNC wrote:
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I don't think that'll happen, but I do recommend shutting him down until after the AS break. Kendrick Perkins is a buffoon, but I don't completely disagree with him here like I usually do. Also, Woj is spot on about us being lotto team if we do decide to call it.


I realize this is a crazy thought, but how about we shut Embiid down for the exact amount of time his knee requires instead of setting up random return dates based on sticking our pointer fingers in the air?

Why is this being approached like some impossibly difficult puzzle? Have a competent medical professional diagnose him (we admittedly might have to hire one first) and establish the timeline, whether it's a week, a month or a year. This isn't complicated.


That's not necessarily what I was doing. I was suggesting that Perkins is of course overreacting as he usually does. He's an idiot and that's no secret.

As for me personally, I suggested Feb 24 which would give an inflamed knee ample time to settle down. I'm not exactly sure on how long he would need to sit because I'm no doctor, but if the goal is to have him healthy and at 100% again, then that timeframe should give him plenty of time to not only get the inflammation down, but also physically get himself back where he needs to be for the stretch run.




I should also add that Woj confirmed that Philadelphia is in no way considering shutting down Joel for any extended stretch other than what he needs.

Windy has confirmed that Philly still plans to be aggressive at the deadline, but I don't know what that means.
I clearly think they need an aggressive 3rd scorer, but I certainly wouldn't be made at 2 moves that bring in an irrationally confident guy that will be aggressive when the defense is disrespecting him (as Tobias has proven he won't, and Maxey last 2 years in the playoffs hadn't proven it, but he seems to have turned a corner), and also a real backup center. Especially if those 2 guys are quality enough to be trade assets in case of a bigger move down the line.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#364 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Thu Feb 1, 2024 10:59 pm

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I realize this is a crazy thought, but how about we shut Embiid down for the exact amount of time his knee requires instead of setting up random return dates based on sticking our pointer fingers in the air?

Why is this being approached like some impossibly difficult puzzle? Have a competent medical professional diagnose him (we admittedly might have to hire one first) and establish the timeline, whether it's a week, a month or a year. This isn't complicated.


That's not necessarily what I was doing. I was suggesting that Perkins is of course overreacting as he usually does. He's an idiot and that's no secret.

As for me personally, I suggested Feb 24 which would give an inflamed knee ample time to settle down. I'm not exactly sure on how long he would need to sit because I'm no doctor, but if the goal is to have him healthy and at 100% again, then that timeframe should give him plenty of time to not only get the inflammation down, but also physically get himself back where he needs to be for the stretch run.




I should also add that Woj confirmed that Philadelphia is in no way considering shutting down Joel for any extended stretch further than what he needs.


Why would we? I agree it's stupid. It's a setback in the middle of the season. This is going to happen to other teams. It's important to remember that this is a marathon and not a race. We're not getting the top seed in the playoffs, but with what Miami did last year, the whole top-seed thing is becoming less of an aid. We had the top seed and lost to Atlanta a few years ago. Joels health is obviously at the forefront and it's a huge overreaction on the part of social media which then led to an even bigger overreaction by the village idiot of ESPN who goes by the name of Kendrick Perkins. Perkins is HANDS DOWN the dumbest person on ESPN right now or in the history of its existence. It was comedy gold last year when JJ Reddick schooled him in the Nikola Jokic discussion and all Perkins could do was race bait and scream.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#365 » by mjkvol » Thu Feb 1, 2024 11:06 pm

GutUNC wrote:I realize this is a crazy thought, but how about we shut Embiid down for the exact amount of time his knee requires instead of setting up random return dates based on sticking our pointer fingers in the air?

Why is this being approached like some impossibly difficult puzzle? Have a competent medical professional diagnose him (we admittedly might have to hire one first) and establish the timeline, whether it's a week, a month or a year. This isn't complicated.


100% agree, and I've always felt this way. The NBA is about the playoffs, and only the playoffs, regardless what Silver and the rest of his henchmen want everyone to believe with their foolish rules for games played to win awards and idiotic gimmicky "in season tournaments".

Bringing back a heavy-usage player like Embiid before he is fully healthy to play some mid-season game is nothing short of asinine, and always comes back to haunt you later on. I don't give a rat's ass about fans paying 'hard earned money' to see him, having a team ready for the playoffs should be the priority. He's won his MVP - the only thing left, even according to him, is the brass ring.
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Post#367 » by zaz102 » Fri Feb 2, 2024 12:15 am

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Post#368 » by JRoy » Fri Feb 2, 2024 12:17 am

That sucks.

Having such a great year too.

Get well soon, big man.
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Post#370 » by zaz102 » Fri Feb 2, 2024 12:33 am

On a better note, Maxey was named an all-star
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Post#371 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Fri Feb 2, 2024 12:43 am

Well, that's that I guess. He's looking at a couple of months at least.
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Post#372 » by Stanford » Fri Feb 2, 2024 12:55 am

What can you even say
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#373 » by XtremeDunkz » Fri Feb 2, 2024 1:05 am

Next season I want Joel on the kawhi plan. The NBA can go **** themselves with their fines too.

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Post#374 » by sixers hoops » Fri Feb 2, 2024 1:31 am

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:Well, that's that I guess. He's looking at a couple of months at least.


I hope he just gets the surgery and comes back in two months. My fear is they try to “manage” the pain, and then he is unavailable for big playoff games.

If they add a player next week, they could prob hang onto the six seed. So they would start the series on the road, but there is no reason they shouldn’t be able to beat the Knicks, Cavs, or Pacers with a healthy Embiid.
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Post#375 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Fri Feb 2, 2024 1:33 am

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ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:Well, that's that I guess. He's looking at a couple of months at least.


I hope he just gets the surgery and comes back in two months. My fear is they try to “manage” the pain, and then he is unavailable for big playoff games.

If they add a player next week, they could prob hang onto the six seed. So they would start the series on the road, but there is no reason they shouldn’t be able to beat the Knicks, Cavs, or Pacers with a healthy Embiid.


I'd say we'll know more on Monday whether or not he has the surgery or just tries to rehab it. Personally, I think surgery is probably his best route and he shuts it down until next season. You hate to see him try and come back only to re-aggravate it again or worse. I've seen that happen to a lot of athletes over the years.
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Post#376 » by PhillyFan11 » Fri Feb 2, 2024 1:34 am

A 60 day recovery to full clearance gives Jo the final 7 regular season games and about 20 days to get back into some sort of game shape for the playoffs. If it’s any longer than 70 days you just shelf him for the season. Out of shape Jo is an ugly sight and only asking for him to injure himself again somehow.

Completely changes the trade deadline narrative though…how do we get more picks now?
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Post#377 » by the_process » Fri Feb 2, 2024 1:46 am

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:
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ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:Well, that's that I guess. He's looking at a couple of months at least.


I hope he just gets the surgery and comes back in two months. My fear is they try to “manage” the pain, and then he is unavailable for big playoff games.

If they add a player next week, they could prob hang onto the six seed. So they would start the series on the road, but there is no reason they shouldn’t be able to beat the Knicks, Cavs, or Pacers with a healthy Embiid.


I'd say we'll know more on Monday whether or not he has the surgery or just tries to rehab it. Personally, I think surgery is probably his best route and he shuts it down until next season. You hate to see him try and come back only to re-aggravate it again or worse. I've seen that happen to a lot of athletes over the years.


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Post#378 » by Sixteen » Fri Feb 2, 2024 1:47 am

The way Embiid was treated after the Denver game took me out a bit. Lets ignore that this is 7'2 240+ man, lets ignore that he plays and moves like a guard, and above all, lets forget that he has an extensive injury history. We'll all just come to the conclusion that he's ducking the guy he just cooked two weeks ago. They rarely even guard each other during their matchups, that's what makes the ducking acquisitions even more absurd. Embiid shouldn't have been playing if was hurt vs GSW, and the Sixers have to ignore the outside noise and do what's best for us. Very disappointed but not surprised
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#379 » by NYSixersFan » Fri Feb 2, 2024 1:47 am

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We're F'ed! Let's start there.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#380 » by sixers hoops » Fri Feb 2, 2024 1:48 am

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:
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ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:Well, that's that I guess. He's looking at a couple of months at least.


I hope he just gets the surgery and comes back in two months. My fear is they try to “manage” the pain, and then he is unavailable for big playoff games.

If they add a player next week, they could prob hang onto the six seed. So they would start the series on the road, but there is no reason they shouldn’t be able to beat the Knicks, Cavs, or Pacers with a healthy Embiid.


I'd say we'll know more on Monday whether or not he has the surgery or just tries to rehab it. Personally, I think surgery is probably his best route and he shuts it down until next season. You hate to see him try and come back only to re-aggravate it again or worse. I've seen that happen to a lot of athletes over the years.


I believe when he had meniscus surgery in 2017, he was out for the season. I am not sure if surgery would mean he is out for the season. An article referring to Kawhi’s meniscus, said surgery would require a 3-6 month recovery.

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