Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3

Slacktard · Post #361 » by **Slacktard** » Fri Jun 28, 2024 2:30 pm

Negrodamus wrote:
76ciology wrote:Btw, I’d like to take a chance again on Charlie Brown Jr.

Sorry, only one player named after a fictional character allowed per team. We already have Davey Jones.

Maybe he is named after the singer from the Monkees.

Covi_Marsh · Post #362 » by **Covi_Marsh** » Fri Jun 28, 2024 2:36 pm

FireMorey wrote:Klay and Ingram wouldn’t be a bad haul. I actually think fit wise it’s better than Ingram and KCP since Ingram and KCP are both 3’s and I’m not sure who would be your 2 guard. Im sure they could make it work with both of them, but your 2 would probably Melton or something.

When has KCP played the 3? He’s always been a SG at every stop of his career I believe.

ProcessDoctor · Post #363 » by **ProcessDoctor** » Fri Jun 28, 2024 2:39 pm

Covi_Marsh wrote:
FireMorey wrote:Klay and Ingram wouldn’t be a bad haul. I actually think fit wise it’s better than Ingram and KCP since Ingram and KCP are both 3’s and I’m not sure who would be your 2 guard. Im sure they could make it work with both of them, but your 2 would probably Melton or something.

When has KCP played the 3? He’s always been a SG at every stop of his career I believe.

This. He played the 2 in Denver between Murray and Porter Jr.

I take him in a landslide over Klay given his defensive presence. Klay can’t move laterally anymore.

the_process · Post #364 » by **the_process** » Fri Jun 28, 2024 2:55 pm

Slacktard wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
76ciology wrote:Btw, I’d like to take a chance again on Charlie Brown Jr.

Sorry, only one player named after a fictional character allowed per team. We already have Davey Jones.

Maybe he is named after the singer from the Monkees.

+1. Well played.

ProcessDoctor · Post #365 » by **ProcessDoctor** » Fri Jun 28, 2024 2:56 pm

I think our big trade gets made the moment PG opts in. I think Daryl is just waiting to see if he’s actually opting in or not.

FireMorey · Post #366 » by **FireMorey** » Fri Jun 28, 2024 2:56 pm

Size-wise he's more a SG than a forward, but I don't really think he has an ideal SG's game. He doesn't really put the ball on the floor. He can move off the ball so he's not strictly a 3 & D, but he basically creates zero offense for himself. If you're paying 20-25m per season for a SG, they better be able to put the ball on the floor a little bit and generate offense on their own. KCP can't do that, Klay can, even though his ability to do that has significantly declined, he can still shoot really well and get you 17-20 per night. As a 4th option that would be good, he's just not a #2 option anymore.

The Sixers could get away with KCP and Ingram in the lineup together, I'm just saying I think Klay and Ingram's games compliment each other better.

I'd take either I just think Klay gives you more offensively and I always lean offense.

Negrodamus · Post #367 » by **Negrodamus** » Fri Jun 28, 2024 3:01 pm

the_process wrote:
Slacktard wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
Sorry, only one player named after a fictional character allowed per team. We already have Davey Jones.

Maybe he is named after the singer from the Monkees.

+1. Well played.

You guys are showing your age.

kriss73 · Post #368 » by **kriss73** » Fri Jun 28, 2024 3:23 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:I think our big trade gets made the moment PG opts in. I think Daryl is just waiting to see if he’s actually opting in or not.

I think the only doubt is if the Clips are going to give PG13 the 4th year at the very last deadline (tomorrow).

If Morey is waiting is because PG isn't opting in. Otherwise, there will be many other teams (on the west coast too) more equipped for a sign and trade.

Negrodamus · Post #369 » by **Negrodamus** » Fri Jun 28, 2024 3:25 pm

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Negrodamus · Post #370 » by **Negrodamus** » Fri Jun 28, 2024 3:26 pm

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Unless they are insanely lowballing him, I'm expecting him to resign with them. Sounds like he likes New Orleans based on other reports.

the_process · Post #371 » by **the_process** » Fri Jun 28, 2024 3:30 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:I think our big trade gets made the moment PG opts in. I think Daryl is just waiting to see if he’s actually opting in or not.

Gonna be tough to actually execute a trade. They want to just sign guys outright. Trading for a guy and taking him into space hard caps you at the 1st apron. And paying Maxey after using cap space is going to take them over the 1st apron. Ad that's without touching the room exception.

If they're making trades, they're staying over the cap and S&T guys.

FireMorey · Post #372 » by **FireMorey** » Fri Jun 28, 2024 3:40 pm

Ingram has been listed among Philadelphia’s targets this offseason, sources said, somewhere below George, although it’s not exactly clear where Ingram ranks among the Sixers’ proverbial group of wing targets to slot between Joel Embiid and Tyrese Maxey. In the event George spurns Philadelphia, the Sixers could easily acquire Ingram into their $60-plus million in cap space, but could Philly’s three first-round picks prove enough for Ingram?

3 firsts GTFOH.

Reason 3,289 why the NBA is the worst league: can't trade your own firsts in back to back years, so teams have to trade picks 10 years down the line. It's so stupid. The NBA is not obligated to protect teams from destroying themselves. It's the only league that allows trading picks that you don't have full control over which picks of yours you can trade. In the NFL you're allowed to trade 5 straight years of picks if you desire. Not the NBA. To trade for a star you need to trade picks into the 2030's, it's absurd. And somehow that is protecting teams? Having their fates out of their hands 7 years down the line?

Just the worst league.

Jailblazers7 · Post #373 » by **Jailblazers7** » Fri Jun 28, 2024 3:48 pm

3 firsts feels like a lot for Ingram but the going rate these days is insanely high. Compare that to what it took to get Bridges & it looks like a steal.

Mik317 · Post #374 » by **Mik317** » Fri Jun 28, 2024 3:49 pm

I wonder if KCP still has some of the on ball juice he had at Georgia hidden in there

yes I am in cope mode

FireMorey · Post #375 » by **FireMorey** » Fri Jun 28, 2024 3:51 pm

I've already made the case for Ingram, but I'm sorry, I can't palate not having firsts in the 2030s because you traded for him.

If it was a normal league where you could trade picks normally, it would be through 2027 instead of into the next decade, which makes it a much more compelling debate.

NYSixersFan · Post #376 » by **NYSixersFan** » Fri Jun 28, 2024 3:52 pm

I'd sign Klay over KCP.

AI_Efficiency · Post #377 » by **AI_Efficiency** » Fri Jun 28, 2024 3:59 pm

I would prefer PG signed outright over Ingram for 3 firsts, but if PG says no, I would trade the picks and get Ingram. He is entering his prime and a core of Ingram, Maxey and Embiid should at least keep the 76ers relevant for the next few years. Who knows if we would ever break through, but I would at least tune in every year to see.

PhillyNj · Post #378 » by **PhillyNj** » Fri Jun 28, 2024 4:04 pm

AI_Efficiency wrote:I would prefer PG signed outright over Ingram for 3 firsts, but if PG says no, I would trade the picks and get Ingram. He is entering his prime and a core of Ingram, Maxey and Embiid should at least keep the 76ers relevant for the next few years. Who knows if we would ever break through, but I would at least tune in every year to see.

hell no. Ingram isn’t worth 1 FRP at 36 mil this year and a max extension coming. I’ll take him for a TPE. But no FRP’s. If that’s the cost I’ll go for Bridges, he’s the better player anyway.

Post #379 » by **Stanford** » Fri Jun 28, 2024 4:05 pm

3 PROTECTED picks, sure

ExplosionsInDaSky · Post #380 » by **ExplosionsInDaSky** » Fri Jun 28, 2024 4:06 pm

I wouldn't trade multiple firsts...No way. For the last 48 hours the draft analysts have been hammering home the importance of home grown talent. Denver and Boston just won rings with essentially home grown talent. I'm a firm believer that you build through the draft, you make smart signings in free agency, and you make low risk/high reward trades. I don't like the idea of giving away future draft picks unless you can afford to do so. We are in no position to be doing this.