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Sixers V Grizzlies 11/20/24 : Biggest Game of the season...i hate it here

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Re: Sixers V Grizzlies 11/20/24 : Biggest Game of the season...i hate it here 

Post#361 » by M2J » Thu Nov 21, 2024 11:52 pm

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76ciology wrote:After rewatching the Grizzlies game, it seems like Embiid sets screens more to get the ball back in a favorable position rather than to free up the shooter—especially when paired with McCain. This approach is noticeably different from how screeners like Kevon Looney or Draymond Green operate, where their screens are primarily focused on creating space for teammates. That said, I can understand Embiid’s perspective—he’s a generational scorer, and it might align with the game plan to prioritize getting him his rhythm, making him a happy camper or exploiting the mismatch tonight he had with Clarke.

On another note, I also noticed during tonight’s game that we ran some of those weave actions. However, when Embiid got the ball, he used the motion to throw his defender off balance, then attacked the rim instead of completing the handoff. Honestly, I’d prefer that approach rather than relying on Caleb Martin or Kelly Oubre to create offense. The issue arises when we run the same sets with Drummond—those plays often result in a Caleb or Oubre drive or even a Drummond isolation, which are less effective.


Joel has historically been a bad screen setter for this reason. Watch any other season and he'll set a screen and before the screened defender is truly on him he's slipping with his hands up to get the ball back.


I'm his defense, he's been one of the just feared offensive players most of his career. Him giving the defenses more to think about than just defending the ball handler and being a threat to score out of any screen is likely by design. I've seen Joel screens even for Harden or Maxey lead to open lanes for because it's expected the play is for Joel.
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Re: Sixers V Grizzlies 11/20/24 : Biggest Game of the season...i hate it here 

Post#362 » by Kova » Fri Nov 22, 2024 7:26 am

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Kova wrote:Let's start with the negatives, which are obvious at this point..
- complete mess on offense, people running into each other, poor timing on hand-offs, insecurity with passes, blocking our own passing lanes
- McCain, yes, we understand by now that you can score, but you can't just keep chugging every time you touch the ball. If that's the plan, then move him to the 6th man and let him do it with the second unit
- Rotations - I feel like at this point we need to find some stability; we're not going to be able to do that by playing a 12-man rotation, which includes 7 new players.
- we lost to a depleted Memphis team, which just shows that we are not favorites against anyone in the league; if Ja was playing, this game would've been over by mid 2nd quarter

A few positives:
- showed some spirit late in 4th, not giving up and allowing to be blown out after being down 18
- Embiid showed a better body language, and that he is not quite dead yet
- Yabusele - out of all acquisitions, he looks like most stable and consistent guy there; playing to his strengths, not trying to do too much and letting the game come to him

And that's about it.
PG is injured again, Maxey will need another week to get into the game rhythm, and Embiid is already rubbing his knees.


Did we watch the same game last night? McCain played 41 minutes and took a whopping 13 shots. Maxey played 20 and took...13 shots. McCain played 6 minutes longer than Joel and took 8 less shots than Joel. McCain also lead the team in assists with 5.

Like what game did you watch that you claim McCain was "chugging every time he touched the ball."


You're correct. I didn't take a look at the box score. I was more going off of some of his decisions where he could pass or switch sides for an easy bucket, and got annoyed with his decision making. I was more referring to some of the recent games where he was chugging away more.
In any case, we can't compare how many shots a rookie is taking vs how many Embiid takes.
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Re: Sixers V Grizzlies 11/20/24 : Biggest Game of the season...i hate it here 

Post#363 » by Negrodamus » Fri Nov 22, 2024 1:51 pm

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Black Mage wrote:
Kova wrote:Let's start with the negatives, which are obvious at this point..
- complete mess on offense, people running into each other, poor timing on hand-offs, insecurity with passes, blocking our own passing lanes
- McCain, yes, we understand by now that you can score, but you can't just keep chugging every time you touch the ball. If that's the plan, then move him to the 6th man and let him do it with the second unit
- Rotations - I feel like at this point we need to find some stability; we're not going to be able to do that by playing a 12-man rotation, which includes 7 new players.
- we lost to a depleted Memphis team, which just shows that we are not favorites against anyone in the league; if Ja was playing, this game would've been over by mid 2nd quarter

A few positives:
- showed some spirit late in 4th, not giving up and allowing to be blown out after being down 18
- Embiid showed a better body language, and that he is not quite dead yet
- Yabusele - out of all acquisitions, he looks like most stable and consistent guy there; playing to his strengths, not trying to do too much and letting the game come to him

And that's about it.
PG is injured again, Maxey will need another week to get into the game rhythm, and Embiid is already rubbing his knees.


Did we watch the same game last night? McCain played 41 minutes and took a whopping 13 shots. Maxey played 20 and took...13 shots. McCain played 6 minutes longer than Joel and took 8 less shots than Joel. McCain also lead the team in assists with 5.

Like what game did you watch that you claim McCain was "chugging every time he touched the ball."


You're correct. I didn't take a look at the box score. I was more going off of some of his decisions where he could pass or switch sides for an easy bucket, and got annoyed with his decision making. I was more referring to some of the recent games where he was chugging away more.
In any case, we can't compare how many shots a rookie is taking vs how many Embiid takes.


I'd agree with you if our team FG% wasn't completely dependent on McCain's ability to score. In the last 7 games, we're shooting 31% from 3FG as a team while Jared McCain is shooting 9 per game at a 44% clip. Until our superstars get their heads out of their collective asses, we need McCain to be as aggressive as possible.
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Re: Sixers V Grizzlies 11/20/24 : Biggest Game of the season...i hate it here 

Post#364 » by WentzerWuver » Fri Nov 22, 2024 2:10 pm

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Kova wrote:Let's start with the negatives, which are obvious at this point..
- complete mess on offense, people running into each other, poor timing on hand-offs, insecurity with passes, blocking our own passing lanes
- McCain, yes, we understand by now that you can score, but you can't just keep chugging every time you touch the ball. If that's the plan, then move him to the 6th man and let him do it with the second unit
- Rotations - I feel like at this point we need to find some stability; we're not going to be able to do that by playing a 12-man rotation, which includes 7 new players.
- we lost to a depleted Memphis team, which just shows that we are not favorites against anyone in the league; if Ja was playing, this game would've been over by mid 2nd quarter

A few positives:
- showed some spirit late in 4th, not giving up and allowing to be blown out after being down 18
- Embiid showed a better body language, and that he is not quite dead yet
- Yabusele - out of all acquisitions, he looks like most stable and consistent guy there; playing to his strengths, not trying to do too much and letting the game come to him

And that's about it.
PG is injured again, Maxey will need another week to get into the game rhythm, and Embiid is already rubbing his knees.


Did we watch the same game last night? McCain played 41 minutes and took a whopping 13 shots. Maxey played 20 and took...13 shots. McCain played 6 minutes longer than Joel and took 8 less shots than Joel. McCain also lead the team in assists with 5.

Like what game did you watch that you claim McCain was "chugging every time he touched the ball."
He is simply a rookie hater and didn't even watch the game. Joel deserves the most shots when he's on the court, being a former MVP who can still get his shots in the paint. Maxey also needs his shots as part of the Big 3.
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Re: Sixers V Grizzlies 11/20/24 : Biggest Game of the season...i hate it here 

Post#365 » by Kova » Sat Nov 23, 2024 7:54 am

WentzerWuver wrote:
Black Mage wrote:
Kova wrote:Let's start with the negatives, which are obvious at this point..
- complete mess on offense, people running into each other, poor timing on hand-offs, insecurity with passes, blocking our own passing lanes
- McCain, yes, we understand by now that you can score, but you can't just keep chugging every time you touch the ball. If that's the plan, then move him to the 6th man and let him do it with the second unit
- Rotations - I feel like at this point we need to find some stability; we're not going to be able to do that by playing a 12-man rotation, which includes 7 new players.
- we lost to a depleted Memphis team, which just shows that we are not favorites against anyone in the league; if Ja was playing, this game would've been over by mid 2nd quarter

A few positives:
- showed some spirit late in 4th, not giving up and allowing to be blown out after being down 18
- Embiid showed a better body language, and that he is not quite dead yet
- Yabusele - out of all acquisitions, he looks like most stable and consistent guy there; playing to his strengths, not trying to do too much and letting the game come to him

And that's about it.
PG is injured again, Maxey will need another week to get into the game rhythm, and Embiid is already rubbing his knees.


Did we watch the same game last night? McCain played 41 minutes and took a whopping 13 shots. Maxey played 20 and took...13 shots. McCain played 6 minutes longer than Joel and took 8 less shots than Joel. McCain also lead the team in assists with 5.

Like what game did you watch that you claim McCain was "chugging every time he touched the ball."
He is simply a hater and didn't even watch the game but make things up.


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