Tank Watch 2025

[Arsenal]

Every decision at this point should be to target finishing in the 4th slot. Gives us 80% chance to keep the pick and 25% chance to grab Flagg or Harper.

[sixers hoops]

Yeah. You just can’t be dumb. Morey is so sloppy at his job that he gets caught trying to hide player injuries in trades, misrepresenting injuries on the injury report, tampering with free-agents, and making backroom promises to players.

It’s very easy to navigate these issues, but Morey is a sloppy liar and keeps getting caught. He should never attempt an affair because he lacks the attention to detail. He would tell his wife he is going to Red Lobster and come home with some chicken chow mein on his lapel.

Resting PG wouldn’t be an issue. PG has a torn tendon in his finger and is taking injections to play through the pain.

Dallas was fined twice for tanking. Mark Cuban publicly admitted to tanking once, then a few years later he rested healthy players to keep their draft pick. You can’t be dumb, but the draft pick tank paid off for them anyway.

Part of the reason Morey is "sloppy" this job is because dudes don't really like him so they don't cover for him.

On the flip side, Elton probably wouldn't make those mistakes and dudes do like him. However, I don't want him in charge of basketball ops for my team.

Give me a dumb, sloppy, lying Morey with chicken chow mein all over his lapel over a squeaky clean, well liked Brand every day of the week. The fact that he's still even with the organization after the summer of Butler-Simmons-Brown-Tobias is an indication why this franchise is the mess that it is.

I’ve been back-and-forth on my overall opinion of Morey.

I wonder how good Elton is an identifying draft prospects. His limited track record is pretty decent, and he was rumored to be interested in Maxey prior to Morey being hired. Ultimately, Morey had final say on Maxey, but he was hired only two weeks before the draft. Nevertheless, Elton was a horrible GM and I hope he isn’t waiting in the wings for a job.

Morey has two huge flaws. His obsession with acquiring stars, which is why i was excited to hire him, leads him to make franchise crippling mistakes. From Chris Paul to Westbrook to Harden to George, he is willing to overpay for declining stars. Paul contract was a disaster. Then he added picks to move from Paul to Westbrook. Harden trade was a good trade in my opinion, but didn’t work. And George looks like a disaster.

His other major flaw is his affinity to fill the bench with aging players. Eric Gordon, Reggie Jackson, Drummond, Lowry, DeAndre Jordan, PJ Tucker, Daniel House, etc. And most of his trade deadline acquisitions, George Hill, McDaniels, and Buddy Hield ended-up not in the playoff rotation of their respective coaches.

Looking at his ability to identify young talent, Morey identifying Harden as his signature, superstar acquisition wasn’t exactly a no-brainer. Harden had the potential, but he was the star that OKC didn’t re-sign. Definitely some risk there.

Maxey, McCain, Edwards, Yabu, Oubre, Grimes, and Melton were all valuable finds. Morey and his team are really good at finding valuable young players to add to the program.I liked the idea of acquiring Lowry and Drummond, but Morey should have mixed in more young players in the program.

I was on record as saying Howie Roseman should have been fired in the winter of 2021, and honestly he probably deserved it. I saw some of his genius but he was riding a streak of draft, free agent, and quarterback disasters. Morey is in the same position and you hope he is learning from his mistakes.

Perhaps Morey identifies his areas of weakness and puts it all together. If Embiid doesn’t return, he has two massive contracts weighing this team down, but he has an opportunity to pair Maxey with a star, and build a sustainable contender. Thanks to Morey nabbing a star and a promising prospect in the second half of the draft, rebuilding on the fly with no cap space is a possibility. Morey has this team in a really bad position, but if he learns from his mistakes, I think he has the potential to be an excellent GM.

Having a reputation that comes with not being forthcoming about injuries in trades, avoiding the media when times get tough, getting caught tampering with free-agents, lying about player’s availability, and telling players in the backroom that he won’t trade them or promising contracts, leaves little confidence in his leadership abilities. Most of these rewards aren't worth the risk. Every GM dabbles in this stuff, but most of the other GMs have the discipline to manage their interactions so they don’t compromise their organization and reputation.

Ultimately, Morey has instincts and team-building strategy that Elton Brand could only dream of. Morey has us in a pretty bad spot, but I have some confidence that he could still be the guy for the job. At the same time, if he doesn’t recognize his clear flaws and adjust, then we are in trouble.

[sixers hoops]

Charlotte is favored tonight to get their 15th win. Utah and Charlotte are unlikely to catch us, but still interesting if they creep closer to us.

[sixerguy]

Well, you can still grade the Fultz trade

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=1577750&hilit=Fultz

Remember when I said I'd rather trade #3 for D'Angelo Russell than move up to get Fultz? I'm standing by that.

Boy of all my quotes, this is certainly one of them. Technically not incorrect, but a real Jigsaw type scenario there.

Unless you had inside info on Fultz’s shoulder, nobody saw it coming.

If Fultz had stayed healthy, there’s no way you pass on him. He was still one of the best guard prospects in the modern NBA—a three-level scorer, versatile defender, and solid playmaker. He checks out on both eyetest and the numbers. I’d say in 10 simulations, you’d be right 10 times out of 10.

He’s still in the league despite a busted shoulder. That says a lot.

He was the consensus number 1 pick in all of those mock drafts, as far as i can remember.



https://www.theringer.com/2016/12/02/college-basketball/washington-markelle-fultz-2017-nba-draft-bc5913d07fc2

There is no analytic for psychology in the Sixers organization. We seek highly talented shallow numbers type players without looking at psychological makeup.

[mjkvol]

Part of the reason Morey is "sloppy" this job is because dudes don't really like him so they don't cover for him.

On the flip side, Elton probably wouldn't make those mistakes and dudes do like him. However, I don't want him in charge of basketball ops for my team.

Give me a dumb, sloppy, lying Morey with chicken chow mein all over his lapel over a squeaky clean, well liked Brand every day of the week. The fact that he's still even with the organization after the summer of Butler-Simmons-Brown-Tobias is an indication why this franchise is the mess that it is.

I’ve been back-and-forth on my overall opinion of Morey.

I wonder how good Elton is an identifying draft prospects. His limited track record is pretty decent, and he was rumored to be interested in Maxey prior to Morey being hired. Ultimately, Morey had final say on Maxey, but he was hired only two weeks before the draft. Nevertheless, Elton was a horrible GM and I hope he isn’t waiting in the wings for a job.

Morey has two huge flaws. His obsession with acquiring stars, which is why i was excited to hire him, leads him to make franchise crippling mistakes. From Chris Paul to Westbrook to Harden to George, he is willing to overpay for declining stars. Paul contract was a disaster. Then he added picks to move from Paul to Westbrook. Harden trade was a good trade in my opinion, but didn’t work. And George looks like a disaster.

His other major flaw is his affinity to fill the bench with aging players. Eric Gordon, Reggie Jackson, Drummond, Lowry, DeAndre Jordan, PJ Tucker, Daniel House, etc. And most of his trade deadline acquisitions, George Hill, McDaniels, and Buddy Hield ended-up not in the playoff rotation of their respective coaches.

Looking at his ability to identify young talent, Morey identifying Harden as his signature, superstar acquisition wasn’t exactly a no-brainer. Harden had the potential, but he was the star that OKC didn’t re-sign. Definitely some risk there.

Maxey, McCain, Edwards, Yabu, Oubre, Grimes, and Melton were all valuable finds. Morey and his team are really good at finding valuable young players to add to the program.I liked the idea of acquiring Lowry and Drummond, but Morey should have mixed in more young players in the program.

I was on record as saying Howie Roseman should have been fired in the winter of 2021, and honestly he probably deserved it. I saw some of his genius but he was riding a streak of draft, free agent, and quarterback disasters. Morey is in the same position and you hope he is learning from his mistakes.

Perhaps Morey identifies his areas of weakness and puts it all together. If Embiid doesn’t return, he has two massive contracts weighing this team down, but he has an opportunity to pair Maxey with a star, and build a sustainable contender. Thanks to Morey nabbing a star and a promising prospect in the second half of the draft, rebuilding on the fly with no cap space is a possibility. Morey has this team in a really bad position, but if he learns from his mistakes, I think he has the potential to be an excellent GM.

Having a reputation that comes with not being forthcoming about injuries in trades, avoiding the media when times get tough, getting caught tampering with free-agents, lying about player’s availability, and telling players in the backroom that he won’t trade them or promising contracts, leaves little confidence in his leadership abilities. Most of these rewards aren't worth the risk. Every GM dabbles in this stuff, but most of the other GMs have the discipline to manage their interactions so they don’t compromise their organization and reputation.

Ultimately, Morey has instincts and team-building strategy that Elton Brand could only dream of. Morey has us in a pretty bad spot, but I have some confidence that he could still be the guy for the job. At the same time, if he doesn’t recognize his clear flaws and adjust, then we are in trouble.

Agree completely on your take of Morey. My comment was more about wanting no part of Brand than an endorsement of Morey.

I love Morey's eye for young talent and his ability to find under the radar talent at bargain prices, and for that reason would like him to have a shot at rebuilding this thing. The work he did to get out of Horford and Simmons and getting Harden, which got us to a 3-2 lead on Boston before it all went wrong, is why I think he deserves a shot to fix this mess, one that he created.

I would hope that the "3 stars" myth and chasing older players part of his makeup has been tempered by the disaster that approach created, and that he doesn't stick with Nurse too long the way he did with Glenn.

[the_process]

Since ownership here has an in with Bob Myers, I'd rather hire him and let him sweep the FO clean and rebuild it all.

However, none of that is happening this offseason. They have already internally chalked this all up to injuries and are going to run it back.

[zaz102]

I hate the Raptors and Hornets...

[76thBearCub]

Wer not guna get to a good mathematical position.

So ask yourself, are we lucky?

[76ciology]

With Embiid, we always need a Big 3 structure since someone has to lead when he’s out. We also need veteran players with alot of “wisdom” because neither Maxey nor Embiid (i find both to have average basketball IQ at best to lead a championship team) can thrive alongside three Kelly Oubres. Maxey plays best with another point guard—whether it’s Harden, Lowry, or Point George. Meanwhile, Embiid is most effective alongside an experienced PF like Ilyasova, Tucker, Batum, or Yabu.

[Sixteen]

Wer not guna get to a good mathematical position.

So ask yourself, are we lucky?

we're due

[mithrandir17]

If we finish as a 10th seed in the east and somehow get into the playoffs, do we still get to participate in the lottery or do we automatically get the 15th pick even if our record is lower than that?

[Jhawk03]

If we finish as a 10th seed in the east and somehow get into the playoffs, do we still get to participate in the lottery or do we automatically get the 15th pick even if our record is lower than that?

If we survive the play-in and get the 8th seed, our pick (it will be 15th) goes to OKC.

The thing to understand is this, at the start of the season the plan was to compete for a title while giving OKC our first round pick... whatever it would end up becoming (as if they needed another one to begin with).

OKC best case scenario of getting the sixers pick was it either landing at 7th or 15th, with no inbetween. The odds are pretty high that they end up with one of those two numbers. That's the worst case scenario operating at 1000% right now.

If we finisth 10th, and somehow get into the playoffs, they get our 15th pick
Currently OCK has the best odds at landing the 7th pick

[Iverson Armband]

Still a lot of time left to suck. We’ll get to #5. That BS four game winning streak is what’s killing us.

[Arsenal]

Look what they're doing to my boy! Let him sit you god damn clown show!!!

[Negrodamus]

Look what they're doing to my boy! Let him sit you god damn clown show!!!

“Coach, that three finger shot didn’t work… and now my shoulder is starting to hurt.”

[mjkvol]

Look what they're doing to my boy! Let him sit you god damn clown show!!!

Hey, what's another adjustment for a kid that has spent his entire (very short) career thus far making adjustment after adjustment for the 'good of the team'? Gotta get that play-in and a potential home playoff game at any cost.

That's the kind of schiit you can't even make up.

[JordanMars]

Look what they're doing to my boy! Let him sit you god damn clown show!!!

he is getting paid max salary to play.. enough of this soft sit through injury nonsense.

[Eyeamok]

I'm sure Maxey wants to play. He probably sees himself now more than ever as the leader of this team. He's gonna set an example to the rest of the team and play.


Make the play in. Give OKC the 15th pick.
Embiid comes back healthy next season.
McCain comes back healthy and better.
The 76ers give up the Clippers pick and something else for Durant.
The 76ers win it all the next season with George or Durant coming off the bench.

What could go wrong.

[mjkvol]

I'm sure Maxey wants to play. He probably sees himself now more than ever as the leader of this team. He's gonna set an example to the rest of the team and play.


Make the play in. Give OKC the 15th pick.
Embiid comes back healthy next season.
McCain comes back healthy and better.
The 76ers give up the Clippers pick and something else for Durant.
The 76ers win it all the next season with George or Durant coming off the bench.

What could go wrong.

I'll have some of what he's drinking.

[ivysixer2000]

This might be the dumbest franchise in NBA history.

Hard to be a fan of them right now.