The Sixerfan1976 Off-Season Thread (Update: Page 61)

[Skates]

I just find it funny how a month ago, Iggy wan't being shopped or moved. Now he is on the open market. LOL. He is going to be traded for financial reasons. They can't afford to keep him and sign Thad, Jrue, and Speights. I think he will be traded for a young player and maybe some saved money. This team is in rebuild mode. Iggy and ET are not the future together.

Everything SF76 has mentioned are teams calling us to inquire about Iggy. This isn't surprising. His contract overpays him a bit, but given the ridiculous contracts handed out to lesser players this summer it's really not out of line. The guy is a very good player and signed through his prime years. The teams that are calling are all ones that missed out on the big FA's at his position. This means a market is developing for Iggy, not that he is being shopped. We need to get back a quality big for him, or a deadeye shooter at SF. Other than that I see no reason to move him, we are better with him.

[radrmd216]

Wow the stance on Iggy seems to have changed a lot.

Sixerscan, you think Jrue has high value now? There was a thread about selling high on Jrue and most people thought trading Jrue now is selling low and his value can only get higher.

[83SixersRocked]

Nope it is a player option at least according to Hoopshype.com.

Storytellers shows it as a player option too. If he really hates in Philly (and not just last year's coaching), maybe he uses his option.

Anybody else have info on if he really does hate it in Philly... or has it just been the coaching?

[76erFixer]

we have no knoweledge that it is, or isnt on the table but Im Just curious. How many people would be on board with the Iggy for Kaman swap?

[ZzAzZ]

I personally want a defensive center.

[thaddeusyoungin]

we have no knoweledge that it is, or isnt on the table but Im Just curious. How many people would be on board with the Iggy for Kaman swap?

hell no

[ZarcMumoff]

Nope it is a player option at least according to Hoopshype.com.

Storytellers shows it as a player option too. If he really hates in Philly (and not just last year's coaching), maybe he uses his option.

Anybody else have info on if he really does hate it in Philly... or has it just been the coaching?

I hate Boston (Yankees and 76ers Fan) and I would live there for a year for 18 Million years.

[Gsraider]

we have no knoweledge that it is, or isnt on the table but Im Just curious. How many people would be on board with the Iggy for Kaman swap?

You know, that's a tough call because Kaman is a pretty good player who can score in a variety of ways and is also a pretty good rebounder. I just think Philly needs a defensive center that can block some shots and protect the lane. I would be on the fence for that one myself, but don't think it would matter because I doubt LA would do it.

[radrmd216]

I would have traded for Kaman a couple years ago, but now the Sixers have Jrue and Turner. I might trade other pieces for Kaman, but it still doesn't make the Sixers contenders in the future. Also Kaman's age doesn't fit with the roster.

[Bring Back 1983]

I like Iguodala and want to see what collins can do with him.

They definitely need another big and they know it.Its how do we get there.

SF76,

I'm just curious - you have mentioned that a substantial offer would be necessary for Iguodala. Just in your own opinion - what would be considered "substantial"? Because I don't know if any of the 3 teams you mentioned can meet that standard, which makes me wonder why we're answering the phone in the first place. (Or as Rick Pitino might say, "Carmelo Anthony is not walking through that door.......Al Horford is not walking through that door.....Greg Oden can't walk through that door.......")

[HartfordWhalers]

we have no knoweledge that it is, or isnt on the table but Im Just curious. How many people would be on board with the Iggy for Kaman swap?

I wrote up what I think of Kaman back in the viewtopic.php?f=26&t=1018443&start=465, but the gist is no.

[thaddeusyoungin]

dont know specifics but i know clips like deng so just speculating..maybe we get a pick from bulls, deandre jordan from clips..maybe taj gibson comes here too..i dont know..dont want this to be fantasy thread. So I will try and find out more.

I still dont think we want to trade iguodala right now unless we really really like the deal. Collins really wants to try and make it work with him,Jrue and Evan together. Dont know.

I want one more move such as this before we go to camp.

I kinda like what toronto and phoenix did. Lost their superstars but brought in some great pieces to make a team with.

Sixers out- Iggy
Sixers in- TPE, Jordan, 2011 1st round pick from Bulls, 1st round pick or young player with potential from 4th team

Bulls out- Deng, Gibson, 2011 1st round pick (lottery protected)
Bulls in- Iggy

Clippers out- TPE, Jordan
Clippers in- Deng

4th team out- 1st round pick or young player with potential
4th team in- Gibson

I would definitely do that deal. There's no point in bringing in Gibson with Brand and Speights already here so we'd have to ship him off to another team. I'm not sure who would be interested though.

I just realized that Gibson would be a perfect fit in New Jersey. He's a capable starter if Favors isn't ready and also wouldn't have a problem coming off the bench. So ship a top 8 protected 1st round pick from NJ to Philly and I'd love that deal.

[Skates]

I would rather have Gibson than Jordan. For a guy who has sone nothing of significance in college or the NBA, Deandre Jordan is extremely over rated and underskilled. He has some physical talnet, but that is about it. He reminds me of all of those toolsy ahtletes like Anthony Hewitt that the Phillies overdraft with no regards to the fact that they have no skills. To me Jordan is a throw in player at best, he has done nothing to prove he is any better than the 35th pick where he was taken. He looks like a career 20 mpg shotblocker type. A slightly tougher Steven Hunter.

I just don't see the fascination with the guy.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

Jordan has the physical abilities to be a good defensive minded center which is something we need but i'll take the rugged inside player in Taj Gibson over Jordan in a second. I also fail to see the hate for Luol Deng. Sure he doesn't have the most attractive game in the league but he would be another solid mid range scorer to put on the floor. I do the deal in a second and if we wouldn't keep Deng then I would flip him to a team that wants him. If it's the Clippers I'd rather we move Lou as well so that we could get Eric Gordon... Or....Or yes imma say it... Baron Davis. Baron Davis could backup Holiday and be an electric sixth man off the bench. Contract size aside that is what I would ask for if this were to happen. Gordon or Davis in return... Or possibly Randy Foye whom they just signed.

[bebopdeluxe]

I thinkl that there is a good chance that a deal for Thad could go down...but not until the start of the season - after Collins has had a training camp, sopme preseason games and perhaps a few regular season games to restore some of his value. Didn't the Billups-for-AI deal happen like three games into the regular season? Let others see that Thad can recover from the disaster that was "Life with Brace-Face"...and then we can hopefully get the young, defensive big we need.

[freshie2]

Can't see Dallas as a fit, but Jordan, Gibson is worth considering...an additional pick makes it real interesting.

Would the Sixers traxe a future #1 for Mullens or Koufos?? They still need to develop further, but showed some signs in Orlando.

Agree on the comments regarding Monroe on another post...still a rookie, but looked pretty good in the game I saw. Didn't see Cousins yet.

[ChuckS]

Also Kaman's age doesn't fit with the roster.

Wow! Kaman is 28. But I suppose if Andre must go at 26, Chris is now ready for the "Old Ballplayers' Home".

I'm reminded of a movie called "Logan's Run". It's not really a classic, and some might even think it corny, but you would probably love it.

It takes place in a society where everyone must be put to death at the age of 30. The title character was a "Sandman" whose job it was to hunt down and kill those who tried to escape. When he reached his own "final day", however, he found that he was still horny (my interpretation) and escaped with his girlfriend to some space colony near Mars.

Well -- in retrospect -- that ending might depress you.

[51X3RF4N]

If an Iggy trade can bring in Jordan, Gibson, AND no returning salaries, plus a future 1st, then that is excellent value.

First of all, some may disagree but Gibson could be a starting PF in the NBA and would likely play very well next to a Center like Hawes. Jordan is not yet ready, but if he can turn into even half of what many believe he is capable, he will be a very good center. He has athleticism, defense, shot-blocking and is a very good rebounder. That would work very well in a lineup with Speights.

Jordan/Hawes
Brand/Speights/Gibson
Thad/Nocioni
Turner/Meeks
Jrue/Lou

That is a much better lineup in the front-court than what the Sixers currently have. 4 young bigs fighting for 2 starting spots. Gotta love that. As opposed to Brand, Thad, Speights, Hawes.

[HotSauce77]

These updates are a bit odd. A salary dump would mean he goes to a team that has $14 million of cap space and we don't have to take players back, only picks or a guy on a rookie contract. He's a 26 year old stud defender who is an 18, 6 and 5 guy, so obviously we would want at least a rotation player back. That's like an update telling us that the Sixers want to get LeBron James but don't have the money or the assets to do it. It's obvious that we have too many small forwards on the team and that it will be difficult to play Holiday, Turner and Iguodala because all 3 need to handle the ball and none of them are great spot up shooters or consistent long distance threats, meaning they aren't best fits. Being that we just drafted Holiday and Turner, it's unlikely they are the guys being shopped, so it's obvious to anyone and everyone that the one guy we might move is Iguodala. An update is a credible rumor that's not already reported in the press - an offer of Deng, Gibson and a first rounder for Iguodala, if true, is an update. Others seem more in like with someone giving opinions.

[illastrate]

Clipper fan here.

After reading all of these comments, I can tell you Clips will not include Kaman in a deal for Deng or Iggy. Jordan could probably be had for Iggy, I'm not sure for Deng. But considering how SF-starved the Clips are, they might have to go that route. Al-Farouq Aminu just doesn't look ready to start.