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Re: Sam Hinkie steps down per Marc Stein 

Post#381 » by CoreyGallagher » Thu Apr 7, 2016 4:53 am

0 - 100 wrote:This is definitely a dream job for any new GM coming in with all the flexibility and draft picks coming up. Draft night should be interesting for you guys (I hope Lakers lose their pick for the crap they surrounded Kobe with).

Not consoling, lol. This being a dream job makes Bryan Colangelo as our new GM even more disturbing.
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Post#382 » by spikeslovechild » Thu Apr 7, 2016 4:54 am

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0 - 100 wrote:This is definitely a dream job for any new GM coming in with all the flexibility and draft picks coming up. Draft night should be interesting for you guys (I hope Lakers lose their pick for the crap they surrounded Kobe with).

Not consoling, lol. This being a dream job makes Bryan Colangelo being our new GM even more disturbing.


He wasn't good enough for the Nets who literally have the worst situation in the NBA. This is nepotism pure and simple.
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Re: Sam Hinkie steps down per Marc Stein 

Post#384 » by 0 - 100 » Thu Apr 7, 2016 4:58 am

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0 - 100 wrote:This is definitely a dream job for any new GM coming in with all the flexibility and draft picks coming up. Draft night should be interesting for you guys (I hope Lakers lose their pick for the crap they surrounded Kobe with).

Not consoling, lol. This being a dream job makes Bryan Colangelo as our new GM even more disturbing.


I don't think it's so bad. BC is a good GM and a good eye for talent. His biggest downfall was overpaying mediocre FA's in Toronto but that may be tied to guys not wanting to play up here. Being with his dad is huge. I honestly think he will do a nice job and turn that team around. The draft coming up is huge.
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Re: Sam Hinkie steps down per Marc Stein 

Post#385 » by 0 - 100 » Thu Apr 7, 2016 5:02 am

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0 - 100 wrote:This is definitely a dream job for any new GM coming in with all the flexibility and draft picks coming up. Draft night should be interesting for you guys (I hope Lakers lose their pick for the crap they surrounded Kobe with).

Not consoling, lol. This being a dream job makes Bryan Colangelo being our new GM even more disturbing.


He wasn't good enough for the Nets who literally have the worst situation in the NBA. This is nepotism pure and simple.


Ah I don't buy this. Prokorov and his Russian buddy don't know anything about the NBA and just got all giddy because Marks came from San Antonio.
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Post#386 » by AAKing23 » Thu Apr 7, 2016 5:05 am

I just hope we don't lose Embiid, Noel or Grant out of this.
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Post#387 » by XtremeDunkz » Thu Apr 7, 2016 5:07 am

AAKing23 wrote:I just hope we don't lose Embiid, Noel or Grant out of this.

2 of Noel, Embiid, or Saric will be gone before next season. And you won't like the return.
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Re: Sam Hinkie steps down per Marc Stein 

Post#388 » by Sixerscan » Thu Apr 7, 2016 5:08 am

If they really want to force Hinkie out that's fine. He has strengths and weaknesses, and we're arguably coming to a point where his strengths are less important and his weaknesses would be more glaring.

But the fact that they hired Junior Colangelo to do it just looks awful. I don't care if he had some positives in Toronto. The fact of the matter is he failed, no team that didn't have his direct family member running the show wanted to hire him, and all of this stinks of Jerry wanting his son to get another shot. Which is sweet and all but not exactly the thought process that I want to go into hiring the guy that's going to run the basketball team I root for.

Who knows, maybe it will work out fine. Hinkie left a pretty awesome situation for someone to come in and do whatever it is they want to do. He doesn't exactly have to do everything perfect for there to be massive improvement next year. It just stinks really bad.
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Re: Sam Hinkie steps down per Marc Stein 

Post#389 » by spikeslovechild » Thu Apr 7, 2016 5:12 am

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CoreyGallagher wrote:Not consoling, lol. This being a dream job makes Bryan Colangelo being our new GM even more disturbing.


He wasn't good enough for the Nets who literally have the worst situation in the NBA. This is nepotism pure and simple.


Ah I don't buy this. Prokorov and his Russian buddy don't know anything about the NBA and just got all giddy because Marks came from San Antonio.


He was interviewed for the job so yeah he lost the job. You really think Colangelo wanted to be hired by and work for his daddy? This is his only shot.
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Re: Sam Hinkie steps down per Marc Stein 

Post#390 » by 0 - 100 » Thu Apr 7, 2016 5:23 am

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He wasn't good enough for the Nets who literally have the worst situation in the NBA. This is nepotism pure and simple.


Ah I don't buy this. Prokorov and his Russian buddy don't know anything about the NBA and just got all giddy because Marks came from San Antonio.


He was interviewed for the job so yeah he lost the job. You really think Colangelo wanted to be hired by and work for his daddy? This is only shot.


Give it a chance. He will do a nice job especially with Jerry overlooking everything.
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Re: Sam Hinkie steps down per Marc Stein 

Post#391 » by spikeslovechild » Thu Apr 7, 2016 5:28 am

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Ah I don't buy this. Prokorov and his Russian buddy don't know anything about the NBA and just got all giddy because Marks came from San Antonio.


He was interviewed for the job so yeah he lost the job. You really think Colangelo wanted to be hired by and work for his daddy? This is only shot.


Give it a chance. He will do a nice job especially with Jerry overlooking everything.


I'll give Brian the same chance Hinkie was given...none.

Besides Brian has a long history of bad decision making. He had seven years in Toronto.
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Re: Sam Hinkie steps down per Marc Stein 

Post#392 » by underpressure » Thu Apr 7, 2016 5:31 am

I am completely devastated as well. The day could not have started worse with such type of news. What really irks me is that only hours after Hinkie stepped down, we immediately come up with his successor whose dad is consulting the Sixers. What is up with that?

Right now, I have zero confidence in the Sixers brass that they make the right choices down the road. Bryan Colangelo is exactly the guy the Sixers would have settled with after they canned Billy King. This is just a terrible situation all around.
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Post#393 » by CoreyGallagher » Thu Apr 7, 2016 5:42 am

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Re: Sam Hinkie steps down per Marc Stein 

Post#394 » by the_process » Thu Apr 7, 2016 5:48 am

Bryan should have this bungled in no time...

Bender with the number 1 pick
Trade Okafor for Rudy Gay
Cut Embiid
Trade the Laker pick for Dragic
Draft the Villanova kids at 23 and 27

Seriously, part of the fun of this was the process. Now, were just waiting to see how much Harris sells the team for. Hopefully sooner rather than later.
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Re: Sam Hinkie steps down per Marc Stein 

Post#395 » by marcush » Thu Apr 7, 2016 5:53 am

The nepotism is a bad look but doesn't really worry me. What worries me is that Bryan is terrible at being a GM of an NBA team. His list of transactions is pretty awful. The Raps went from a joke to a serious organisation when they brought in Ujiri. Just another poor sixer decisions.

Here's an idea, open your wallet Wall St dudes and poach a serious GM. The decks are clear, plenty of assets and anyone not named Hinkie is going to get a great run with the media. It's a great time to get this job, there should be a lot of interest.
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Re: Sam Hinkie steps down per Marc Stein 

Post#396 » by RaptorNews » Thu Apr 7, 2016 6:05 am

BC is truly a hack and slimeball of the first order. He made being a Raptors fan a living hell for many years.

To see Hinkie get traded in for the most short sighted executive in NBA history this side of Billy King is an outrage. I'm hoping for the best for you guys, truly. I'm just not optimistic, especially considering the pressure to "turn the ship around". Which for Bryan means cashing in potential for guaranteed mediocrity at any cost.
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Re: Sam Hinkie steps down per Marc Stein 

Post#397 » by mad-man » Thu Apr 7, 2016 6:11 am

The low down on BC...

-Great track record for drafting 1st round talent
-Spends cap space frivolously
-Tendency to get swindled in trades (often very short sighted)
-Undervalues 2nd round picks
-Demar Derozan: "We haven't did nothing"
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Post#398 » by Wonderllama » Thu Apr 7, 2016 6:17 am

The draft is literally only a few months away. Hinkie couldn't stay for that?

Oh, the horror when the Colangelos screw it up...
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Re: Sam Hinkie steps down per Marc Stein 

Post#399 » by Jojothewhale » Thu Apr 7, 2016 6:21 am

I don't blame Jerry or Bryan Colangelo one bit for this mess. I have zero faith in the latter, but he's not the worst GM in the league. I doubt we'll ever have an answer, but Adam Silver sharing some blame would not surprise me in the least. Even then, I understand why he feels the need to discourage this league wide.

Who I do blame is Joshua Harris and the rest of the ownership group. What we as a fan base were sold was that this was a long-term process they had every intention to see through and most importantly that there was a plan in place for the first time in 30 years. It keeps coming back to hiring Bryan Colangelo means they panicked. If they were giving us a viable alternative, it wouldn't be nearly this catastrophic. The setup is there for a successful talent base. The Colangelo clan certainly may succeed, but as some of us have been arguing for 3 years, the process matters more than the results.

For the majority of my adult life, I have been more of a basketball fan than a Sixers fan because there was literally zero hope in choosing the latter. I enjoyed following the team so closely for the last 3 years and that's really all we can ask. I may change my mind next week or month, but as of today, I don't want these people to succeed more than I want to root for the Sixers. More than anything, I feel terrible for the hardcore lifelong Sixers fans who got on board and are now staring at a critically important draft and offseason run by someone who is hopelessly behind.
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Post#400 » by Swervin81 » Thu Apr 7, 2016 6:25 am

Bryan Colangelo... I'll be as blunt as possible, he's a hack. While BC is good at drafting and getting talent, the guy has zero vision. He waffles and flip flops more than a teenage girl at the mall. One minute, he's rebuilding, and then out of nowhere, he decides to go all in and win now in some desperate attempt for the 8th seed. He looked like he was patient, with a young core of DeMar and JV (both of whom we could've traded for Harden), and then he decides to have a big boner for Steve Nash and give Landry Fields insane money to prevent the Knicks from signing him, only for Nash to go elsewhere anyways. Have a solid backcourt in DeMar and Lowry and have no more touches to go around to other players since we need to feed JV for the good of his development? Trade for Rudy goddamn Gay. Desperate to keep Bosh? Trading a 1st for Jermaine O'Neal, flip O'Neal for Marion a few weeks later, and then let Marion go and sign Turkoglu to a ridiculous deal. That's not even getting into drafting Air Bargnani 1st overall, and then basically giving him preferential treatment and firing Smitch who, as bad a coach as he was, was only fired because he wouldn't go easy on poor Bargnani.

He has no clue how pieces on team fit and no long term vision and just has a corporate stench above him. The amount of times you'll hear him say "organic growth" will make you punt puppies in anger. Everyone says he drafted and traded for most of the Raps core. I guarantee you, however, that we wouldn't be the team we are today if not for Masai, who actually has vision and knows how to build a TEAM and not a collection of talent like BC.
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