2017-2018 College Basketball / '18 NBA Draft Thread

No-Man · Post #381 » by **No-Man** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 5:32 pm

Kobblehead wrote:Does Doncic's heightened basketball IQ give him a chance at being a good team defender?

a chance? he is gonna be that, more it's hard to say, I'd compare his D to Lonzo's and Ball is fairing well

No-Man · Post #382 » by **No-Man** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 5:33 pm

Kobblehead wrote:

Watch on YouTube

Sexton seems so legit. Franchise lead G talent.

please let me know where do you see that in that video

No-Man · Post #383 » by **No-Man** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 5:35 pm

JojoSlimbiid wrote:Sexton looks like he's gonna have zero touch at the next level. Like his competitiveness but I don't see stardom there. Looks like he'll be a solid bull-dog type point guard.

agreed, his touch is really troubling to me, feels like a 2-way PG that might be a bit too reckless to command an offense, sort of like a more creative Pat Bev

BoomBap · Post #384 » by **BoomBap** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 6:16 pm

Watch on YouTube

WTH guys, I want answers!

There is also an 15 year old Greek Freak, already with a ridiciulous wingspan. What's up with this family?

phiphan · Post #385 » by **phiphan** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 6:38 pm

BoomBap wrote:We have two 1st round picks(1 lottery) and 4 2nd round picks. Lakers pick around 7-10 and pick will be around 20-24. Who would you pick?

Miles Bridges with the lakers pick?

I don't want Miles Bridges. Strikes me as a college overperformer offensively (due to high motor and plus athleticism) who isn't long enough to be positionally versatile on defense.

Kobblehead · Post #386 » by **Kobblehead** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 9:03 pm

phiphan wrote:I don't want Miles Bridges. Strikes me as a college overperformer offensively (due to high motor and plus athleticism) who isn't long enough to be positionally versatile on defense.

I think he's an overperformer, defensively. He may have good shotblock timing, but his defense on the perimeter seems hit or miss. Reminds me of Justin Anderson, defensively. Except, minus the 6'11" wingspan.

I think his offensive skill level is somewhat legitimate, though. He's shooting 40% from the mid-range for his career and shooting 39% from three in 156 attempts. I think his shooting is real and could translate.

Kobblehead · Post #387 » by **Kobblehead** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 9:06 pm

I'll continue to ride the fence on whether or not I want Miles Bridges, though. I can see both sides.

clownclownclown · Post #388 » by **clownclownclown** » Sat Nov 18, 2017 12:21 am

Is anyone else really underwhelmed by Ayton? All size and little to no skill imo.

Kobblehead · Post #389 » by **Kobblehead** » Sat Nov 18, 2017 12:29 am

clownclownclown wrote:Is anyone else really underwhelmed by Ayton? All size and little to no skill imo.

I don't get that sense. He's shooting 43% from mid-range (40% of his offense) and nearly 77% from the free throw line.

I'm underwhelmed by him, defensively, in the early going. His block percentage should be DOUBLE what it is right now. If he doesn't raise it, it doesn't bode well for his rim protecting ability at the next level.

clownclownclown · Post #390 » by **clownclownclown** » Sat Nov 18, 2017 12:49 am

Kobblehead wrote:
clownclownclown wrote:Is anyone else really underwhelmed by Ayton? All size and little to no skill imo.

I don't get that sense. He's shooting 43% from mid-range (40% of his offense) and nearly 77% from the free throw line.

I'm underwhelmed by him, defensively, in the early going. His block percentage should be DOUBLE what it is right now. If he doesn't raise it, it doesn't bode well for his rim protecting ability at the next level.

Hmmm i wasnt aware of those numbers but given the competition so far i dont think he'll maintain that level.

Kobblehead · Post #391 » by **Kobblehead** » Sat Nov 18, 2017 1:04 am

Disregarding the competition he's faced and just focusing on his shooting form and touch, I think his skill level seems fine.

JojoSlimbiid · Post #392 » by **JojoSlimbiid** » Sat Nov 18, 2017 1:14 am

clownclownclown wrote:Is anyone else really underwhelmed by Ayton? All size and little to no skill imo.

He's pretty skilled on offense. Him in space on defense is a bit troubling but nothing too concerning. I personally think Bama>. Bamba might be my #1 right now. I got to see more of him but I really like him.

clownclownclown · Post #393 » by **clownclownclown** » Sat Nov 18, 2017 1:38 am

Acc. to espn he shot 9/34 from midrange (26%) and made 4/9 (45%) in his 3 games so far.

Kobblehead · Post #394 » by **Kobblehead** » Sat Nov 18, 2017 1:44 am

Shooting touch and skill level haven't ever been in question, regarding Ayton (that I'm aware of). It's his dedication and motor that were of concern.

clownclownclown · Post #395 » by **clownclownclown** » Sat Nov 18, 2017 1:55 am

Kobblehead wrote:Shooting touch and skill level haven't ever been in question, regarding Ayton (that I'm aware of). It's his dedication and motor that were of concern.

Im doubting his shooting, i think it will decrease once he gets more contested.
And im not really seeing special skills that scream franchise player.

phiphan · Post #396 » by **phiphan** » Sat Nov 18, 2017 2:27 am

Ayton is impressively coordinated and well balanced, and appears to have no trouble adding quality lbs. I don't see franchise talent right now but his floor is very high.

PLO · Post #397 » by **PLO** » Sat Nov 18, 2017 2:58 am

Fischella wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:

Watch on YouTube

Sexton seems so legit. Franchise lead G talent.

please let me know where do you see that in that video

How would you rank the guards from this college year and the current NBA rookie guards? (excluding Simmons)

No-Man · Post #398 » by **No-Man** » Sat Nov 18, 2017 8:57 am

PLO wrote:
Fischella wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:

Watch on YouTube

Sexton seems so legit. Franchise lead G talent.

please let me know where do you see that in that video

How would you rank the guards from this college year and the current NBA rookie guards? (excluding Simmons)

Fultz/DSJ
Ntilikina/Ball
Mitchell/Monk
Trae Young
Sexton
De'Aaron Fox
Nickeil Alexander-Walker (more of a 2 probably)
Andrew Jones/Frank Jackson
Trevon Duval
De'Anthony Melton/Derrick White
Jawun Evans

PLO · Post #399 » by **PLO** » Sat Nov 18, 2017 11:10 am

Fischella wrote:
PLO wrote:
Fischella wrote:please let me know where do you see that in that video

How would you rank the guards from this college year and the current NBA rookie guards? (excluding Simmons)

Fultz/DSJ
Ntilikina/Ball
Mitchell/Monk
Trae Young
Sexton
Nickeil Alexander-Walker (more of a 2 probably)
Andrew Jones/Frank Jackson
Trevon Duval
De'Anthony Melton/Derrick White
Jawun Evans

Thanks for the reply, the next draft seems to be not that great in terms of guard prospects.

Kolkmania · Post #400 » by **Kolkmania** » Sat Nov 18, 2017 11:42 am

Mikal Bridges 6/6 from deep, 9/10 from the field for 24 points. Watched their game against Nicholls and it seems like Bridges is getting a bigger role on the team. They're posting him up against smaller wings and guards, his passing out of the post is solid, not very advanced from a skill perspective though.

Very high on his shooting stroke though, it's a bit Klay-esque on how he prepares his shot from a lower body perspective. Squared up and a wide stance, capable to use a 1-2 motion and a hop as well. He shot a three on the move which impressed me, I see some potential as a shooter off screens in the future. His elbow does tend to flare out a bit at times.