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The Ben Simmons Megathread - Part III

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Re: The Ben Simmons Megathread - Part III 

Post#381 » by TheBallsDeeper » Fri May 10, 2019 12:40 am

Negrodamus wrote:
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https://www.philly.com/philly/sports/sixers/sixers-ben-simmons-jj-redick-shooting-hand-wrong-right-left-free-throw-podcast-ringer-20180406.html



I'll take the word of someone who sees him in person every day over someone who "follows" him.

Same article Reddick says that Simmons form looks better right handed and JJ has told him that he should change hands. As you say, I'll take the word of someone who sees him in person every day over someone who "follows" him.


Then surely you read this part too, right?

He seemed open to the idea. I don't want to mess with him. I also think since I said that to him, which was like October or November which was the first time I saw him shoot right-handed, he's gotten better left-handed. So I don't know if it's necessary with him. The other thing with Ben, too, is like — you need shooting around Ben, but I don't think Ben ever needs to have a jump shot to be an effective player.

Yes, he said he has gotten better so not sure if it is needed to change now - he has not gotten better, so obviously, he is just saying that part instead of leaving it at "I told him to change hands and he hasn't".
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Re: The Ben Simmons Megathread - Part III 

Post#382 » by Negrodamus » Fri May 10, 2019 12:46 am

TheBallsDeeper wrote:
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TheBallsDeeper wrote:Same article Reddick says that Simmons form looks better right handed and JJ has told him that he should change hands. As you say, I'll take the word of someone who sees him in person every day over someone who "follows" him.


Then surely you read this part too, right?

He seemed open to the idea. I don't want to mess with him. I also think since I said that to him, which was like October or November which was the first time I saw him shoot right-handed, he's gotten better left-handed. So I don't know if it's necessary with him. The other thing with Ben, too, is like — you need shooting around Ben, but I don't think Ben ever needs to have a jump shot to be an effective player.

Yes, he said he has gotten better so not sure if it is needed to change now - he has not gotten better, so obviously, he is just saying that part instead of leaving it at "I told him to change hands and he hasn't".


Thank you for clarifying for Mr. Redick.
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Re: The Ben Simmons Megathread - Part III 

Post#383 » by TheBallsDeeper » Fri May 10, 2019 12:52 am

Negrodamus wrote:
TheBallsDeeper wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
Then surely you read this part too, right?


Yes, he said he has gotten better so not sure if it is needed to change now - he has not gotten better, so obviously, he is just saying that part instead of leaving it at "I told him to change hands and he hasn't".


Thank you for clarifying for Mr. Redick.

You're welcome. Let me know if you need anything else cleared up.
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Re: The Ben Simmons Megathread - Part III 

Post#384 » by Negrodamus » Fri May 10, 2019 12:58 am

TheBallsDeeper wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
TheBallsDeeper wrote:Yes, he said he has gotten better so not sure if it is needed to change now - he has not gotten better, so obviously, he is just saying that part instead of leaving it at "I told him to change hands and he hasn't".


Thank you for clarifying for Mr. Redick.

You're welcome. Let me know if you need anything else cleared up.


Nope, I got my fill of nonsense.
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Re: The Ben Simmons Megathread - Part III 

Post#385 » by Daytonflores » Fri May 10, 2019 1:24 am

Negrodamus wrote:
TheBallsDeeper wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
Then surely you read this part too, right?


Yes, he said he has gotten better so not sure if it is needed to change now - he has not gotten better, so obviously, he is just saying that part instead of leaving it at "I told him to change hands and he hasn't".


Thank you for clarifying for Mr. Redick.


Lmao
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Re: The Ben Simmons Megathread - Part III 

Post#386 » by DaddyCool19 » Fri May 10, 2019 11:59 am

What else was Redick supposed to say? You can't throw your All Star teammate under the bus can you?
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Re: The Ben Simmons Megathread - Part III 

Post#387 » by XtremeDunkz » Mon May 13, 2019 4:31 am

Next season Ben NEEDS to take jumpers every single game in the regular season. Theres no more excuses for him.And not those free throw extended fade aways. Real jumpers
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Re: The Ben Simmons Megathread - Part III 

Post#388 » by PhillyPhilly » Mon May 13, 2019 5:47 am

Ben has to make a decision when he wakes up tomorrow. Does he want to be an all-time great or not? If he does then he needs to work with as many decent shooting coaches/NBA vets as possible In an effort to develop a proper form and mechanics that can produce a workable jumper from fifteen feet. The only way he's gonna cure himself of this deficiency is by allowing himself to be taught by professionals and to then put in serious hard work in the gym. Surely he cannot be comfortable with how these last two playoffs have gone? Yes he was decent defensively but offensively he just kills the team tbh.
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Re: The Ben Simmons Megathread - Part III 

Post#389 » by XtremeDunkz » Mon May 13, 2019 6:31 am

PhillyPhilly wrote:Ben has to make a decision when he wakes up tomorrow. Does he want to be an all-time great or not? If he does then he needs to work with as many decent shooting coaches/NBA vets as possible In an effort to develop a proper form and mechanics that can produce a workable jumper from fifteen feet. The only way he's gonna cure himself of this deficiency is by allowing himself to be taught by professionals and to then put in serious hard work in the gym. Surely he cannot be comfortable with how these last two playoffs have gone? Yes he was decent defensively but offensively he just kills the team tbh.


50% of Embiids offensive struggles in this series were due to Toronto being able to rotate away from Ben without a care in the world. He doesnt get a pass for this anymore. He is actively hurting the team.
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Re: The Ben Simmons Megathread - Part III 

Post#390 » by Tomjas » Mon May 13, 2019 7:06 am

XtremeDunkz wrote:
PhillyPhilly wrote:Ben has to make a decision when he wakes up tomorrow. Does he want to be an all-time great or not? If he does then he needs to work with as many decent shooting coaches/NBA vets as possible In an effort to develop a proper form and mechanics that can produce a workable jumper from fifteen feet. The only way he's gonna cure himself of this deficiency is by allowing himself to be taught by professionals and to then put in serious hard work in the gym. Surely he cannot be comfortable with how these last two playoffs have gone? Yes he was decent defensively but offensively he just kills the team tbh.


50% of Embiids offensive struggles in this series were due to Toronto being able to rotate away from Ben without a care in the world. He doesnt get a pass for this anymore. He is actively hurting the team.


And when they rotate, Ben is wide open but we haven’t got anybody who can find him with a GPS and a guide

Ben needs to get a shot, others (including Joel) need to work on their passing
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Re: The Ben Simmons Megathread - Part III 

Post#391 » by PhillyPhilly » Mon May 13, 2019 7:06 am

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PhillyPhilly wrote:Ben has to make a decision when he wakes up tomorrow. Does he want to be an all-time great or not? If he does then he needs to work with as many decent shooting coaches/NBA vets as possible In an effort to develop a proper form and mechanics that can produce a workable jumper from fifteen feet. The only way he's gonna cure himself of this deficiency is by allowing himself to be taught by professionals and to then put in serious hard work in the gym. Surely he cannot be comfortable with how these last two playoffs have gone? Yes he was decent defensively but offensively he just kills the team tbh.


50% of Embiids offensive struggles in this series were due to Toronto being able to rotate away from Ben without a care in the world. He doesnt get a pass for this anymore. He is actively hurting the team.


Our guard duo consisted of a 6'10 kid who can't shoot and a 35 year old shooter who can't defend or create his own shot. That's not a title winning duo imo and it needs to be addressed. I truly believe if Ben takes his right-hand push shot and develops it into a jumper he would have a shot he could rely on and develop. But if he stays shooting them lefties then I don't see him having a competent shot moving forward tbh.
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Re: The Ben Simmons Megathread - Part III 

Post#392 » by kio80 » Mon May 13, 2019 7:19 am

I have witnessed at least 3 times Ben wide open waving his hand, basically yelling for the ball under the post, Embiid and tobis both ignored him.
And here we go blaming Simmons not being aggressive and shot only 5 shots, when he’s surrounded by idiots.


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Re: The Ben Simmons Megathread - Part III 

Post#393 » by phifans » Mon May 13, 2019 8:24 am

kio80 wrote:I have witnessed at least 3 times Ben wide open waving his hand, basically yelling for the ball under the post, Embiid and tobis both ignored him.
And here we go blaming Simmons not being aggressive and shot only 5 shots, when he’s surrounded by idiots.


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Lol nobody blame Ben for only taking 5 shots. 5 shots is an ok number to take in a crutial playoff game for a guy who has no idea how to score points outside the paint.

You want to take more shots ? Go get to the gym and shoot that damn ball into the net.
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Re: The Ben Simmons Megathread - Part III 

Post#394 » by ConstableChaos » Mon May 13, 2019 8:36 am

Simmons should be at the 4, and should be the 76ers Draymond Green with a top 5 player in the game upside.

Green probably better switching 2-5 and a better interior defender, Simmons definitely better switching 1-4 with the lateral quickness to defend anyone on the perimeter.

BS definitely needs some kind of outside threat to reach his ceiling - which might not be the best player on a championship team, but he could be the most important player on a championship team
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Re: The Ben Simmons Megathread - Part III 

Post#395 » by phillynative » Mon May 13, 2019 9:41 am

Tomjas wrote:
XtremeDunkz wrote:
PhillyPhilly wrote:Ben has to make a decision when he wakes up tomorrow. Does he want to be an all-time great or not? If he does then he needs to work with as many decent shooting coaches/NBA vets as possible In an effort to develop a proper form and mechanics that can produce a workable jumper from fifteen feet. The only way he's gonna cure himself of this deficiency is by allowing himself to be taught by professionals and to then put in serious hard work in the gym. Surely he cannot be comfortable with how these last two playoffs have gone? Yes he was decent defensively but offensively he just kills the team tbh.


50% of Embiids offensive struggles in this series were due to Toronto being able to rotate away from Ben without a care in the world. He doesnt get a pass for this anymore. He is actively hurting the team.


And when they rotate, Ben is wide open but we haven’t got anybody who can find him with a GPS and a guide

Ben needs to get a shot, others (including Joel) need to work on their passing


This is where not having a PG comes into play especially with TJ being unplayable at times.
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Re: The Ben Simmons Megathread - Part III 

Post#396 » by shlo » Mon May 13, 2019 12:28 pm

ConstableChaos wrote:Simmons should be at the 4, and should be the 76ers Draymond Green with a top 5 player in the game upside.

Green probably better switching 2-5 and a better interior defender, Simmons definitely better switching 1-4 with the lateral quickness to defend anyone on the perimeter.

BS definitely needs some kind of outside threat to reach his ceiling - which might not be the best player on a championship team, but he could be the most important player on a championship team


Draymond Green stretches the court and plays with passion all the time, Simmons won't be the next Draymond Green and does not have top 5 player in the game upside. Not even close.
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Re: The Ben Simmons Megathread - Part III 

Post#397 » by Negrodamus » Mon May 13, 2019 2:11 pm

It might not be hot takey here, but I have a sneaking suspicion that Ben gets traded this offseason. I think the Sixers likely feel handcuffed by what Embiid offers and what he offers. It's also before he's to get a massive contract.
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Re: The Ben Simmons Megathread - Part III 

Post#398 » by sodmoraes » Mon May 13, 2019 2:28 pm

I may be wrong, but t i think our team would be better with kemba walker, instead of ben simmons. He´s not a PG, and never will be. The game is "guard heavy" nowadays, you need a guard who can create his own shot. Even if Simmons develop a decent shot( 15 ft), he will never be a guard who can break the offense and get easy shots. Embid is great, but in the playoffs is hard for him to be the first option.
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Re: The Ben Simmons Megathread - Part III 

Post#399 » by PhillyFan11 » Mon May 13, 2019 2:34 pm

sodmoraes wrote:I may be wrong, but t i think our team would be better with kemba walker, instead of ben simmons. He´s not a PG, and never will be. The game is "guard heavy" nowadays, you need a guard who can create his own shot. Even if Simmons develop a decent shot( 15 ft), he will never be a guard who can break the offense and get easy shots. Embid is great, but in the playoffs is hard for him to be the first option.


We have a #1 scoring option that isn’t good enough...so we need to go find a completely new #1 scoring option? While also keeping Butler and Harris? Just not realistic.
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Re: The Ben Simmons Megathread - Part III 

Post#400 » by theo42 » Mon May 13, 2019 3:13 pm

shlo wrote:
ConstableChaos wrote:Simmons should be at the 4, and should be the 76ers Draymond Green with a top 5 player in the game upside.

Green probably better switching 2-5 and a better interior defender, Simmons definitely better switching 1-4 with the lateral quickness to defend anyone on the perimeter.

BS definitely needs some kind of outside threat to reach his ceiling - which might not be the best player on a championship team, but he could be the most important player on a championship team


Draymond Green stretches the court and plays with passion all the time, Simmons won't be the next Draymond Green and does not have top 5 player in the game upside. Not even close.

I don't know how you can say Ben doesn't have top 5 player potential? If he had a shot, he is in that category. GRANTED ...it is a big IF but that is a possibility.

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