Sixers vs Raptors - Nov. 25th - 7:30pm ET

Mik317 · Post #381 » by **Mik317** » Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:15 pm

I think its as simple as JJ opened up the floor for him and no one on the current roster even comes close to it.

That goes to say he isn't absolved of all of it tho. He takes too long to make a decision, he needs to grab it and go instead of holding it and allowing the double to come or giving defense time to contest. Honestly beyond the times he forced it, he actually did a solid job on the double but still needs to improve. A optimistic look at this is that it is important for him to get game tape on this now rather than during the playoffs.

BUT yet again, the fact remains that it is easier than ever to double because teams will live w/ many of the other guys taking open looks or being able to get back and contest easy. JJ that was never the case. Its not just Simmons either. Horford can make open 3s but his best release is when he takes his time...and thats easy to contest. Tobias is pretty **** off the ball in terms of movement. So that leaves Josh and Scott as the only two real release valves (w/ the latter being really good at it lately in terms of moving to the right spots). But all year the main issue is that 4 of our better players all want to post up and we simply do not have the spacing for that...for any of them. Broken Record Time but the team screwed the pooch w/ bringing back Ennis (who has been fine) and drafting Mattise...when the team needed damn near the exact opposite of those two...and then going all in on Embiid insurance when KOQ and keeping Fernando might have been all we needed in that space.

The most frustrating part of this team is that a few tweaks is all that is really needed but we **** blew it at having the ability to do so. Its like we put all our points into size but at the expense of our current weaknesses and it drives me insane thinking about it lol. The Miami ,Boston, and Minnesota games are the peak this team should be able to hit but instead thats rarer and the margin of error is that of a .500 team....how sway? HOW

phillynative · Post #382 » by **phillynative** » Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:19 pm

maternal85 wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:Joel plays at his best when he can disrespect and belittle his opponent. Problem is that he has so much respect for Marc as a player and person that it's hard for him to get to the headspace he likes to play at when going up against him. It's the same thing with Horford.

Trying to avoid eye contact is an example of him trying to visualize Marc as just another adversary.

It's hard to disrespect and belittle your father.

He didnt do anything special but keep Embiid out of the post and held him untill the dbl came . Too bad the sixers dont have the personnel to really make them pay.

Kobblehead · Post #383 » by **Kobblehead** » Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:21 pm

Stanford wrote:Sometimes it's hard to tell if NBA fans love basketball or psychoanalysis.

Have you psychoanalyzed Jordan Myles or Big Cass?

phillynative · Post #384 » by **phillynative** » Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:41 pm

Kobblehead wrote:
phillynative wrote:I hope this isnt true because then it makes the fans from opposing teams right when they call him a coward and a fraud.

I mean, didn't we always know that Joel is a bully? Bullies usually prey on the weak because they have their own issues.

I never saw embiid as a bully he was pretty non discrimatory about who he would go at when he came into the league. I remember him going at guys like Cousins and Hasaan whiteside when they were in their prime I always saw him as more goofy than anything with part of his personality being a irritant to get under guys skin if he could.

Post #385 » by **Stanford** » Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:47 pm

Kobblehead wrote:
Stanford wrote:Sometimes it's hard to tell if NBA fans love basketball or psychoanalysis.

Have you psychoanalyzed Jordan Myles or Big Cass?

Mm, not the same thing. Those are rare outside-the-ring cases where mental health issues could be an explanation for a public meltdown. Every time a wrestler has a mediocre match, wrestling fans (who are ridiculous in their own way) don't take the opportunity to psychoanalyze them from their bedrooms. Shinsuke Nakamura seemingly hasn't had a great match in years. I've never seen anyone diagnose him or any other under performing wrestler with a social anxiety disorder. On this team alone we've head the phrase head case used to describe Fultz, Ben and Joel.

Grew · Post #386 » by **Grew** » Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:51 pm

You guys have no point guard. Ben simmons isn't a full time PG imo. You're starting lineup is basically 2 PFs 2 Cs and a SG/SF. You have a lot of talent but it doesn't fit. You either find a genius coach to put it together in some way no one else can see... or you trade one of Simmons/Embiid/Horford, for a full time playmaking guard of equal value. Until that happens, seems like calling the current version of your team "legit title contenders", is just wishful thinking. Last year I was more scared of your team than the bucks, but that was largely due to Jimmy Butler and JJ Reddick. I cant see the team I saw last night beating the Raptors or the Bucks in a 7 game series, and you might have to get through both of them to get out of the east. If you did get out of the east, you really think you can beat either LA team?

the_process · Post #387 » by **the_process** » Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:14 pm

Raptor fans really like piling on in this thread, eh?

eyeatoma · Post #388 » by **eyeatoma** » Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:14 pm

It's their m. O.

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phillynative · Post #389 » by **phillynative** » Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:31 pm

Imagine winning the chip last season because one of the best players in the league got traded to your team, he leaves in the offseason and now no one sees them as legitimate contenders after coming out of the gates swinging.

I can see why their fans are emotional lol

A_Toney · Post #390 » by **A_Toney** » Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:50 pm

the_process wrote:Raptor fans really like piling on in this thread, eh?

Lol

No one is worried about Toronto. They play in Philly on December 8th. I suspect it’s a 20 point win for Philadelphia. Toronto Lolo
It was Phillys 3rd game in 4 days. Milwaukee is my ONLY concern in the East.

Ferry Avenue · Post #391 » by **Ferry Avenue** » Wed Nov 27, 2019 12:47 am

A_Toney wrote:
the_process wrote:Raptor fans really like piling on in this thread, eh?

Lol

No one is worried about Toronto. They play in Philly on December 8th. I suspect it’s a 20 point win for Philadelphia. Toronto Lolo
It was Phillys 3rd game in 4 days. Milwaukee is my ONLY concern in the East.

If Toronto had home-court advantage the Sixers would probably lose a seven-game series to them in the playoffs. There is nobody leading this team sufficiently to make it a favorite in the playoffs against any team with home-court advantage.

Ferry Avenue · Post #392 » by **Ferry Avenue** » Wed Nov 27, 2019 12:48 am

Grew wrote:You guys have no point guard. Ben simmons isn't a full time PG imo. You're starting lineup is basically 2 PFs 2 Cs and a SG/SF. You have a lot of talent but it doesn't fit. You either find a genius coach to put it together in some way no one else can see... or you trade one of Simmons/Embiid/Horford, for a full time playmaking guard of equal value. Until that happens, seems like calling the current version of your team "legit title contenders", is just wishful thinking. Last year I was more scared of your team than the bucks, but that was largely due to Jimmy Butler and JJ Reddick. I cant see the team I saw last night beating the Raptors or the Bucks in a 7 game series, and you might have to get through both of them to get out of the east. If you did get out of the east, you really think you can beat either LA team?

Right now I would rather have Terry Rozier than Ben Simmons.

A_Toney · Post #393 » by **A_Toney** » Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:03 am

Ferry Avenue wrote:
A_Toney wrote:
the_process wrote:Raptor fans really like piling on in this thread, eh?

Lol

No one is worried about Toronto. They play in Philly on December 8th. I suspect it’s a 20 point win for Philadelphia. Toronto Lolo
It was Phillys 3rd game in 4 days. Milwaukee is my ONLY concern in the East.

If Toronto had home-court advantage the Sixers would probably lose a seven-game series to them in the playoffs. There is nobody leading this team sufficiently to make it a favorite in the playoffs against any team with home-court advantage.

Only team I’m worried about in the playoffs is Milwaukee. Toronto would be a five game speed bump.

Kobblehead · Post #394 » by **Kobblehead** » Wed Nov 27, 2019 2:28 am

Toronto has the 2nd best margin of victory in the East this year. They're top 10 in both offensive and defensive efficiency. They're loaded with guys that can score buckets on the ball.

We can pretend that we'd wipe the floor with them in a series but that's just being ignorant and arrogant. They're outright better than us right now.

Mik317 · Post #395 » by **Mik317** » Wed Nov 27, 2019 2:33 am

pretty much.

doesn't excuse Embiid's **** show but they also locked down Kawhii, Lillard, Bron and Doncic too.

they ballin and have the long dudes to throw at fools. Its what Orlando seemed to be trying to do...but yknow actually successful lol

76ciology · Post #396 » by **76ciology** » Wed Nov 27, 2019 2:42 am

Regarding Embiid..

This is why ever since he was a rookie, we like to control him. He wasn’t happy about it. But now that we gave him too much freedom, we have to live with this.

Mik317 · Post #397 » by **Mik317** » Wed Nov 27, 2019 3:08 am

thats the NBA tho.

People keep going "well they should just tell him what to do or else bench him" like this is college...its not. With Agents , social media, and such the moment you make that hardline stand is the moment your team basically blackballs themselves lol. Look at the Knicks. The first guy to bring that franchise back to prominence will be a god...but no one wants to deal w/ that FO situation.

Thats just not how these things work.

tsmith · Post #398 » by **tsmith** » Wed Nov 27, 2019 3:17 am

Mik317 wrote:thats the NBA tho.

People keep going "well they should just tell him what to do or else bench him" like this is college...its not. With Agents , social media, and such the moment you make that hardline stand is the moment your team basically blackballs themselves lol. Look at the Knicks. The first guy to bring that franchise back to prominence will be a god...but no one wants to deal w/ that FO situation.

Thats just not how these things work.

The only coach with the league-wide respect to pull off challenging a player is Pop. Every other coach has no chance.

VDT · Post #399 » by **VDT** » Wed Nov 27, 2019 3:29 am

Has he challenged Derozan and Aldridge to change their playstyle?

tsmith · Post #400 » by **tsmith** » Wed Nov 27, 2019 4:23 am

VDT wrote:Has he challenged Derozan and Aldridge to change their playstyle?

Wasn't saying that he's out there challenging players currently, I said he's the only guy that could pull it off and not get massacred.