** Official 2025 Trade Deadline Thread **

[Redemption76]

Soooo, it’s all about saving money for Josh to take his private jet to DC to slurp Jayden Daniels jockstrap. Nice.

Makes that beatdown at the Linc in the NFC championship even more satisfying.

Sell the team, you crook. And take Morey with you. There’s obviously a reason Morey has never even gotten to the Finals. He is very bad at his job.

[Wilfried]

Soooo, it’s all about saving money for Josh to take his private jet to DC to slurp Jayden Daniels jockstrap. Nice.

Makes that beatdown at the Linc in the NFC championship even more satisfying.

Sell the team, you crook. And take Morey with you. There’s obviously a reason Morey has never even gotten to the Finals. He is very bad at his job.

To be fair: you only go into the lux tax when you really are a contending team imo. No need to pay a lot of money for a team fighting to get into the play-ins

It makes sense. Too bad we had to attach some stuff to trade him, it means we overvalue KJ probably if we thought we could get something in return.

[Slacktard]

Soooo, it’s all about saving money for Josh to take his private jet to DC to slurp Jayden Daniels jockstrap. Nice.

Makes that beatdown at the Linc in the NFC championship even more satisfying.

Sell the team, you crook. And take Morey with you. There’s obviously a reason Morey has never even gotten to the Finals. He is very bad at his job.

To be fair: you only go into the lux tax when you really are a contending team imo. No need to pay a lot of money for a team fighting to get into the play-ins

It makes sense. Too bad we had to attach some stuff to trade him, it means we overvalue KJ probably if we thought we could get something in return.

Honestly, I never really thought much of him as a player. I always just viewed him as a trade exception. His contract and salary was generated via bird rights to be used for a trade.

The fact his salary is being dumped is that the idea of using him to bring back a player isn't deemed worth it for the quality and performance and outcome expected for the rest of this season.

[NYSixersFan]

Does this move do ANYTHING to help the team? They could have just cut him after the year to get under the tax and re-sign Yabu, no?

[zaz102]

Wish I could bump up the old thread where everyone armchair GM'd what player the Sixers would trade for using KJ Martin's contract.

DFS?
Bogdan?
Herb Jones?

Reality: give up draft picks to dump him. LOL this organization never ceases to amaze. Every year it's Morey having to undo moves he made mere months ago.

Sign PJ Tucker, trade PJ Tucker
Sign Caleb Martin, trade Caleb Martin
Sign KJ Martin, trade KJ Martin

You're leaving out a lot of context. It was a good idea at the time. And it makes sense to pivot now. Morey even put safeguards in place to make it a team option for a second year.

My only issue is that KJ's contract was unguaranteed, so I obviously rather have Harris pay the extra tax and keep the 2nds.

[Arsenal]

The Sixers specifically signed KJ Martin to his deal to have as a trade-chip to acquire a player at the deadline. He's got a non-guaranteed contract for next year. There's no additional cost to him beyond this season.

As I said after the Caleb Martin trade. This trade deadline is showing the Sixers are shifting into reducing payroll because they're not going anywhere and Josh Harris wants to spend less money. He no longer has to pretend to try to get an arena deal through. He gave up on Center City.

Teams will sometimes spend $1m or $2M to buy a second pick. Sixers just gave up some to save a little bit of money this season.

I agree and everyone knows I'm the #1 hater of little Joshy.

That said, the REPEATER TAX is a killer, so it makes no sense to be in the tax in this lost year. Instead, better to reset the clock on the repeater tax allowing us to spend more in future years.

[Arsenal]

Does this move do ANYTHING to help the team? They could have just cut him after the year to get under the tax and re-sign Yabu, no?

Yes it helps. It allows us to spend more in future years where we may actually be a contender, unlike this lost season.

[Slacktard]

Does this move do ANYTHING to help the team? They could have just cut him after the year to get under the tax and re-sign Yabu, no?

I mean the cynical take (which is usually where I fall) is that it's basically going to save money for Josh Harris. The talk about resetting the 'repeater tax' it really only delays it a year. The Sixers had already *reset* it. The Sixers were not in the luxury tax the last two seasons. Repeater tax is 3 out of 4 seasons. So if the Sixers were in the luxury tax this season, they would still need to be in it 2 out of the next 3 seasons to trigger a repeater tax.

If you want to say does it help them this year. They could now sign a buy-out who made more than the MLE... because they are under the first Apron *and* have the ability to sign a player to a minimum contract and remain under the first apron.

Someone with better cap understanding may also explain how it might let them do something with Justin Edwards contract, but that's a bit above my pay grade.

[FireMorey]

Wish I could bump up the old thread where everyone armchair GM'd what player the Sixers would trade for using KJ Martin's contract.

DFS?
Bogdan?
Herb Jones?

Reality: give up draft picks to dump him. LOL this organization never ceases to amaze. Every year it's Morey having to undo moves he made mere months ago.

Sign PJ Tucker, trade PJ Tucker
Sign Caleb Martin, trade Caleb Martin
Sign KJ Martin, trade KJ Martin

You're leaving out a lot of context. It was a good idea at the time. And it makes sense to pivot now. Morey even put safeguards in place to make it a team option for a second year.

My only issue is that KJ's contract was unguaranteed, so I obviously rather have Harris pay the extra tax and keep the 2nds.

I didn't say it wasn't a good idea. It was an obersvation of how everything goes wrong with this organization, not necessarily a criticism of Morey on the KJ Martin move itself. If I had to blame anyone in particular for the trade, it would be Harris, but still. Signing a guy when the expectation is to trade him for a good player and you end up having to give up picks to dump him is just a bad look on the organization.

[Arsenal]

Does this move do ANYTHING to help the team? They could have just cut him after the year to get under the tax and re-sign Yabu, no?

I mean the cynical take (which is usually where I fall) is that it's basically going to save money for Josh Harris. The talk about resetting the 'repeater tax' it really only delays it a year. The Sixers had already *reset* it. The Sixers were not in the luxury tax the last two seasons. Repeater tax is 3 out of 4 seasons. So if the Sixers were in the luxury tax this season, they would still need to be in it 2 out of the next 3 seasons to trigger a repeater tax.

If you want to say does it help them this year. They could now sign a buy-out who made more than the MLE... because they are under the first Apron *and* have the ability to sign a player to a minimum contract and remain under the first apron.

Someone with better cap understanding may also explain how it might let them do something with Justin Edwards contract, but that's a bit above my pay grade.

I believe the tax line is $170.8m and we're at $169.7m after the KJ trade. Leaving $1.1m to sign a buyout guy and stay under the tax.

Not sure if we can convert Edwards to a standard contract also since that may increase his cap hit. As an example Ricky Council got converted from a 2-Way last April and Spotrac shows him around an $890k cap hit last year.

[Arsenal]

Man I wish we could've got rid of Drummond, but I guess we're stuck with him.

[sammorey]

Soooo, it’s all about saving money for Josh to take his private jet to DC to slurp Jayden Daniels jockstrap. Nice.

Makes that beatdown at the Linc in the NFC championship even more satisfying.

Sell the team, you crook. And take Morey with you. There’s obviously a reason Morey has never even gotten to the Finals. He is very bad at his job.

To be fair: you only go into the lux tax when you really are a contending team imo. No need to pay a lot of money for a team fighting to get into the play-ins

It makes sense. Too bad we had to attach some stuff to trade him, it means we overvalue KJ probably if we thought we could get something in return.

Morey is getting roasted for no reason. Sure, Harris is cheap, but delaying going into the tax, allows us to not pay the repeater tax next year.

KJ Martin was basically a human trade exception and Morey cut bait on that plan when he realized we were going nowhere. I'll take the GM who waits until the last minute when he has as much information as possible before committing to a strategy. It's like a dealer going after the player in blackjack. Better to wait to see our situation and evaluate at the deadline. Morey is smart.

Martin was never a contract that was signed to be positive value. It was a trade exception in player form.

[Mik317]

every deadline is the same.

Oh man look out the Sixers are ready to deal

other teams makes moves

well...the market is tough yknow

we make a deal that is lateral at best that saves money

lie to ourselves that we actually got a steal

guy plays well, we get hyped.

guy struggles and falls out of the lineup

bu-but wait until the buyout...

we get no one in the buyout.

well what did you expect we didn't have assets yknow

playoff failure

every single deadline has gone this way lol.

I am not even saying that Morey should go super agressive either its just funny how it often turns out.

[Murray_17]

Man I wish we could've got rid of Drummond, but I guess we're stuck with him.

Funny enough... we could use Paul Reed now.

[Arsenal]

Man I wish we could've got rid of Drummond, but I guess we're stuck with him.

Funny enough... we could use Paul Reed now.

BBall last year was MUCH BETTER than Drummond has been this year. Unfortunately, we couldn't afford to keep BBall, but I'd welcome BBall back with open arms!

[zaz102]

Wish I could bump up the old thread where everyone armchair GM'd what player the Sixers would trade for using KJ Martin's contract.

DFS?
Bogdan?
Herb Jones?

Reality: give up draft picks to dump him. LOL this organization never ceases to amaze. Every year it's Morey having to undo moves he made mere months ago.

Sign PJ Tucker, trade PJ Tucker
Sign Caleb Martin, trade Caleb Martin
Sign KJ Martin, trade KJ Martin

You're leaving out a lot of context. It was a good idea at the time. And it makes sense to pivot now. Morey even put safeguards in place to make it a team option for a second year.

My only issue is that KJ's contract was unguaranteed, so I obviously rather have Harris pay the extra tax and keep the 2nds.

I didn't say it wasn't a good idea. It was an obersvation of how everything goes wrong with this organization, not necessarily a criticism of Morey on the KJ Martin move itself. If I had to blame anyone in particular for the trade, it would be Harris, but still. Signing a guy when the expectation is to trade him for a good player and you end up having to give up picks to dump him is just a bad look on the organization.

It gives fuel for haters, but it's small potatoes. Celtics just attached a second to get off of Springer after a year of trading for him. The difference is the Celtics are a contender and the Sixers are not.

They have a much bigger problem that's going to make the job hell for Morey or whomever the GM is for the next few years.

[NYSixersFan]

Ok, if this allows them to sign a decent buyout player, I get it. Otherwise, pure nonsense.

[zaz102]

Ok, if this allows them to sign a decent buyout player, I get it. Otherwise, pure nonsense.

It's to save Harris money. I'm more hoping as a side benefit it allows them to sign Edwards to a deal now if anything, but we'll see.

[NearingZero]

Ok, if this allows them to sign a decent buyout player, I get it. Otherwise, pure nonsense.

It's to save Harris money. I'm more hoping as a side benefit it allows them to sign Edwards to a deal now if anything, but we'll see.

I don't think it changes anything about being allowed to sign Edwards.

[the_process]

Does this move do ANYTHING to help the team? They could have just cut him after the year to get under the tax and re-sign Yabu, no?

No. The team sucks and it's not winning anything. Why spend extra money on a loser? They don't, and you wouldn't.