If it wasn't clear before, it's clear as day now

[FlipBaller31]

didn't Miami sweep the season series? just wondering.

[LongLiveHinkie]

Irrelevant. Half the games were when the Sixers were not playing great team basketball.

[FlipBaller31]

well, what happened on half the games when the Sixers played great team basketball?
i think they still lost.

[LongLiveHinkie]

Not really. The Sixers are pretty banged up right now and with pretty much half the team unhealthy and playing poor ball, they still had the overrated Heat on the ropes with 8 minutes left. The Heat were in the fight of their lives the entire game.

But that's pretty typical of a team who has the worst record of all playoff teams against the NBA's elite. They really only beat up on the lower tier teams of the NBA who are playing half-assed for ping pong balls anyway.

Lebron wouldn't know anything about playing with injuries though. He used his little elbow ailment as an excuse for his lack of production in the playoffs. Then you have Wade and Bosh who would miss a game with a broken fingernail.

[Kova]

I didn't realize we were among the NBA elite now.. So if Heat struggles against top 5 teams, why didn't we still beat them at least once??
There's a reason why we didn't play good team basketball against them every time we played them (3 times)..
And there's a reason why we played great team basketball against Boston, and beat them once, and had them 'on the ropes' the other two times, not with 8 minutes left, but with 8 seconds left!

[freshie2]

The longer this string of posts goes, there is one thing becoming clear as day, and it has nothing to do with the Sixers first round opponent.

[76ciology]

I'm OK with the 76ers facing the Heat because I think we stand a better chance relying on our perimeter defense than with our interior defense. We got two good perimeter defenders which are our team's best assets in Jrue and Iggy. And both these guys can match-up against D-Wade and LeBron. And I'd rather have those match-ups rather than facing a potential match-up nightmare for our team in Hawes vs D-12 match-up.

Yes, the Celtics looks like an aging team. But we all know that the Celtics does turn the switch during the play-offs. They are completely a different team in the play-offs than during the regular season. They are also very poised and experience come play-off time. And unlike the Heat, it would be hard for us to disrupt their team's flow/chemistry and change the series'/game's momentum in a serious play-off series.

Teams that I wouldn't want our team to be facing (in order):
1.) Bulls - Their defense would make give our half court offense a hard time.
2.) D12's Magic- D12
3.) Celtics - Refs (Lakers-Celtics again), Lots of offensive weapon, Rondo disrupting Jrue's game, Poise
4.) Heat- Big 2.

[dbodner]

Did everyone completely forget the Cavs series against Detroit in '07?

What have you done for me lately

[Kobblehead]

Westbrook36 just hates LeBron. I noticed that when he was on the Cavs a couple years back. LeBron is FAR from a loser that chokes at the end of games, but to a hater that's not the point.

I'm neutral on LeBron and LeBron is not far from that at all. Actually, it's pretty harshly accurate.

[Uptown Report]

It's all about matchups. If "stars" are so important, then how come Miami has the worst record in the NBA against the top 5 teams in each conference?

They don't. You made that up. "Worst record in the NBA? LOL. They have wins versus the Lakers (2), Spurs (1), OKC (1), Nuggets (1), Magic (2), Hawks (2), Sixers (3). Things changed drastically from 30 games ago when everybody was harping on that stat.

If it is about stars why do the Spurs have the best record in the NBA? It's about playing defense(which the Heat don't do)

WHAT? LOL. The Heat is the #2 defense in the NBA in FG% (which is the stat that matters, they are also in the top five in every major defensive category and have NEVER left the top 5 in Hollinger's Def. Efficiency rating. I am not sure how you can type that with a straight face. They are KNOWN for their GREAT defense.

, playing consistent basketball(which the Heat don't do) and have great coaching(which the Heat don't have).

You know what is "consistent" basketball? A team that is in the top 5 in Offensive and Defensive Efficency, while also being in the top 5 in Rebounding. They are the only team in the top 5 in all three categories. NO Team since the advent of the Hollinger eff. ratings has ever failed to make the finals with that trio of stats in their favor.

You know what else is "consistent"? They have 50 wins with 10 games to go. So I guess you can say that they are not consistent at losing.

BTW, you are in no position to say anything about Heat fans. They have bought up every seat this year and sold out the building for next year and have commitments for 4 more years for sellouts.

Since Dwyane Wade arrived, the Heat has been very good in attendance in the NBA and needless to say have had much better attendance than your Sixers since 2003.


For the rest of you, I love how your team plays. In Jrue and Lou you have the best PG combo outside of all the all-star PG's. I am a huge fan of Iggy and Brand has done a resurgence. I am rooting for you guys. Doug Collins is a great guy and deserves this success.

In case we meet, I think the Sixers will be just what the Heat need. A team that can push them the entire series and steal a game and draw close in several others.

[LongLiveHinkie]

They don't. You made that up. "Worst record in the NBA? LOL. They have wins versus the Lakers (2), Spurs (1), OKC (1), Nuggets (1), Magic (2), Hawks (2), Sixers (3). Things changed drastically from 30 games ago when everybody was harping on that stat.

No, not really. They are the worst of all playoff teams against the NBA's elite. They can't beat the elite teams. The facts are the facts.

WHAT? LOL. The Heat is the #2 defense in the NBA in FG% (which is the stat that matters, they are also in the top five in every major defensive category and have NEVER left the top 5 in Hollinger's Def. Efficiency rating. I am not sure how you can type that with a straight face. They are KNOWN for their GREAT defense.

Since when do stats have anything to do with defense? There are too many factors to look at stats and make the call. Things like styles of play, game plans, schemes, etc. The Heat like to run so the opposing teams love to play a slow pace. The Heat can't defend anyone. Name me one all NBA defender on that roster, and if you even mention Wade or Lebron you've lost all credibility.

You know what is "consistent" basketball? A team that is in the top 5 in Offensive and Defensive Efficency, while also being in the top 5 in Rebounding. They are the only team in the top 5 in all three categories. NO Team since the advent of the Hollinger eff. ratings has ever failed to make the finals with that trio of stats in their favor.

That's not consistency. That's fluff. Where has it gotten the Heat? Again, they can't beat Boston, they can't beat Chicago, they can't beat any good teams. If that makes you feel good about beating up on the Bucks and Wizards then more power to you. But it's going to be funny when you don't win the Finals and won't have anything to say about that stat anymore. It will be proven as worthless as your pathetic team.

You know what else is "consistent"? They have 50 wins with 10 games to go. So I guess you can say that they are not consistent at losing.

That is not an accomplishment.

BTW, you are in no position to say anything about Heat fans. They have bought up every seat this year and sold out the building for next year and have commitments for 4 more years for sellouts.

Since Dwyane Wade arrived, the Heat has been very good in attendance in the NBA and needless to say have had much better attendance than your Sixers since 2003.

LOL... the Heat have not sold out a single game this season. You watch their games and see countless empty seats. The only chance you have at selling out a game is if Tiger Woods stops by after a Magic game and brings his women with him. Other than that, Miami will always be known as a joke of a sports town. Miami is a cool town though, I'll give it that. That's probably why they can't sell out a game down there. Too much to do.

I know someone who works with public relations for the Heat and it is a fact that they lie about attendance to not embarrass themselves like the Marlins have done for so many years.

[Uptown Report]

No, not really. They are the worst of all playoff teams against the NBA's elite. They can't beat the elite teams. The facts are the facts.

THEY ARE NOT. This is all verifiable. The "facts" are that you are demonstrably wrong.

Since when do stats have anything to do with defense? There are too many factors to look at stats and make the call. Things like styles of play, game plans, schemes, etc. The Heat like to run so the opposing teams love to play a slow pace. The Heat can't defend anyone. Name me one all NBA defender on that roster, and if you even mention Wade or Lebron you've lost all credibility.

Since when do stats determine how good a team is defensively? Are we on the same planet? How the hell else do you measure it? The Heat run rarely. Look up the numbers. That is just something the media picked up on and you bought into, since you don't watch the heat. They rank 20th in pace and midpack in fast break points. In pure transistion, they rank 10th. They really only run off of turnovers and long rebounds.

All NBA defenders? Lebron James has been a 1st teamer, Dwyane Wade has been a 2nd teamer, and they consistently rank in the top 5 in Def. Winshare. it is rather ridiculous to even try to argue that the Heat don't play GREAT defense. Not good..BUT Great defense.

That's not consistency. That's fluff. Where has it gotten the Heat? Again, they can't beat Boston, they can't beat Chicago, they can't beat any good teams. If that makes you feel good about beating up on the Bucks and Wizards then more power to you. But it's going to be funny when you don't win the Finals and won't have anything to say about that stat anymore. It will be proven as worthless as your pathetic team.

THEY. HAVE. 50. WINS. with 10 to go. So in your opinion, the Spurs, Lakers, Magic, Thunder, Nuggets, Hawks, Sixers, Knicks, etc...are not "good teams"? There is also no need to lob insults. I am trying to help you and am talking to you like an adult.

That is not an accomplishment.

yes it is. Teams play all year for playoff position.

LOL... the Heat have not sold out a single game this season. You watch their games and see countless empty seats. The only chance you have at selling out a game is if Tiger Woods stops by after a Magic game and brings his women with him. Other than that, Miami will always be known as a joke of a sports town. Miami is a cool town though, I'll give it that. That's probably why they can't sell out a game down there. Too much to do.

Again, you are either joking or you don;t know that these things are verifiable. They have PERFECT attendance.

http://espn.go.com/nba/attendance/_/sort/homePct

100.9% attendance is PERFECT. period. We do have a late arriving crowd for most night games due to where the arena is. But the place is packed EVERY NIGHT. You know how you get attendnace that exceeds capacity? By selling standing room only which the Heat and 4 other teams in the NBA do.

I know someone who works with public relations for the Heat and it is a fact that they lie about attendance to not embarrass themselves like the Marlins have done for so many years.

LOL.

What is a lie is this statement above. GIVE ME THE GUY'S NAME. I know most everybody in the Heat's PR department, so I probably know him if he exists, which he doesn't. it is NEVER to a team's advantage to exaggerate attendance because, attendance equals DOLLARS and DOLLARS equal revenue and most teams want to cry poor.

AT EVERY GAME, the turnstiles are tallied by officials from the team as well as officials from the NBA. Ticket sales are monitored by the LEAGUE and those numbers are 100% accurate.

[LongLiveHinkie]

THEY ARE NOT. This is all verifiable. The "facts" are that you are demonstrably wrong.

They lost to the Spurs by 30, can't beat the Celtics, can't beat the Bulls, can't beat the Thunder. They can't even beat the Knicks with Anthony who have lost countless games in a row. Those are the facts. They are an embarrassment.

Since when do stats determine how good a team is defensively? Are we on the same planet? How the hell else do you measure it? The Heat run rarely. Look up the numbers. That is just something the media picked up on and you bought into, since you don't watch the heat. They rank 20th in pace and midpack in fast break points. In pure transistion, they rank 10th. They really only run off of turnovers and long rebounds.

How about watch the games? Look, I know you are new to this basketball thing and just got into the team this past offseason when the most overrated player in NBA history signed with your team making you the most overrated team in sports history; but stats have nothing to do with the quality of defense. Stats really don't tell you anything. They are for fantasy football, people who are unathletic and aren't good enough to play sports, and people who need ink on paper to tell them the story because they can't watch a game and interpret it for themselves.

Stop blaming the media and stop being a homer. Your team is garbage defensively. Lebron plays zero defense, can't stay in front of his man, can't body anyone up. Lebron's defense is one thing: running down slower/smaller players from behind and pinning their layups against the glass. Which may or may not be goaltending. You probably have the worst defensive PG in the NBA too in Bibby. and if Bosh ever made a play defensive it would be his first. Wade is a good defender, but not great. Certainly better than Lebron though. I'd go to your bench, but you don't have one.

All NBA defenders? Lebron James has been a 1st teamer, Dwyane Wade has been a 2nd teamer, and they consistently rank in the top 5 in Def. Winshare. it is rather ridiculous to even try to argue that the Heat don't play GREAT defense. Not good..BUT Great defense.

Absolutely asinine homer drivel and not even worthy of a response. I'll just wait until the Heat lose in the playoffs and troll all over your boards with this quote. I just saved it to a Word document.

THEY. HAVE. 50. WINS. with 10 to go. So in your opinion, the Spurs, Lakers, Magic, Thunder, Nuggets, Hawks, Sixers, Knicks, etc...are not "good teams"? There is also no need to lob insults. I am trying to help you and am talking to you like an adult.

B.F.D. The Sixers and Knicks are mediocre teams. The Hawks are sometimes good, sometimes not. The Heat are garbage. Your bandwagon fan base will see that in a few weeks.

yes it is. Teams play all year for playoff position.

If your team didn't play like a bunch of whiny ****es and keep losing to the top eastern teams then maybe you'd have that #1 spot. Sorry, but not good enough.

Again, you are either joking or you don;t know that these things are verifiable. They have PERFECT attendance.

LMFAO... stop. ESPN is paid off by the league to skew stats. That is a proven fact. Also that is number of tickets sold. Brokers buy them up to make attendance look better on paper. Happens all the time. That arena is empty night-in and night-out. No one cares about sports in that town and all you need to do is turn a TV on and hear a pin drop in that pathetic arena.

http://espn.go.com/nba/attendance/_/sort/homePct

100.9% attendance is PERFECT. period. We do have a late arriving crowd for most night games due to where the arena is. But the place is packed EVERY NIGHT. You know how you get attendnace that exceeds capacity? By selling standing room only which the Heat and 4 other teams in the NBA do.

LOL.

What is a lie is this statement above. GIVE ME THE GUY'S NAME. I know most everybody in the Heat's PR department, so I probably know him if he exists, which he doesn't. it is NEVER to a team's advantage to exaggerate attendance because, attendance equals DOLLARS and DOLLARS equal revenue and most teams want to cry poor.

AT EVERY GAME, the turnstiles are tallied by officials from the team as well as officials from the NBA. Ticket sales are monitored by the LEAGUE and those numbers are 100% accurate.

[/quote]

You don't know anyone in the Heat's organization. You are lying to try to sound important. Of course I'm not going to give you the name of my source, but he has told me countless times how embarrassed he is to be in that arena. As overrated as your team is(and boy is it overrated) and as overrated as Lebron is, it is a shame they can't sell out a game at that place. The Cavs have like 10 times the sellouts the Heat do and they have arguably the worst team in basketball.

[Sixerlover]

Westbrook36 just hates LeBron. I noticed that when he was on the Cavs a couple years back. LeBron is FAR from a loser that chokes at the end of games, but to a hater that's not the point.

I'm neutral on LeBron and LeBron is not far from that at all. Actually, it's pretty harshly accurate.

FALSE. It's just that no one cares about the times when he owns the 4th quarter, everyone wants to harp on the games where he misses the last shot.

[Uptown Report]

They lost to the Spurs by 30, can't beat the Celtics, can't beat the Bulls, can't beat the Thunder. They can't even beat the Knicks with Anthony who have lost countless games in a row. Those are the facts. They are an embarrassment.

They also BEAT The Spurs by 30. They beat the Thunder. A Billups 37 foot shot beat the Heat. Not what Melo did. They will beat this Celtics team, but that is just opinion. The Bulls? LOL. They are so much better than us that they needed to win at the buzzer at home for the first two. Teh last one they flat out needed to rob us of a win with 4 bogus ft's.

How about watch the games? Look, I know you are new to this basketball thing and just got into the team this past offseason when the most overrated player in NBA history signed with your team making you the most overrated team in sports history; but stats have nothing to do with the quality of defense. Stats really don't tell you anything. They are for fantasy football, people who are unathletic and aren't good enough to play sports, and people who need ink on paper to tell them the story because they can't watch a game and interpret it for themselves.

Again, you can stop with the insults. I am an adult and I TRYING to speak to you as if you are one as well. You are in no position to talk about ANYBODY's basketball knowledge since it is YOU and not ME that is becoming a celebrity online due to your ridiculous pronouncements in this thread.

Stop blaming the media and stop being a homer. Your team is garbage defensively. Lebron plays zero defense, can't stay in front of his man, can't body anyone up. Lebron's defense is one thing: running down slower/smaller players from behind and pinning their layups against the glass. Which may or may not be goaltending. You probably have the worst defensive PG in the NBA too in Bibby. and if Bosh ever made a play defensive it would be his first. Wade is a good defender, but not great. Certainly better than Lebron though. I'd go to your bench, but you don't have one.

This is just ignorant. Right down to who is the Heat's starting point guard. Bibby is only starting due to Chalmers injury. There is not one person that will agree with your assessment of the Heat's defense. Since you don;t care about stats (how convenient) then I guess you don;t want to hear about Def. Winshares that prove you wrong on EVERY count in this quote. Bibby however is not very good defensively. You are right about that...but he is NOT the Heat's starter. He is a 15 minute a game guy off the bench. He is only starting due to injury.

Absolutely asinine homer drivel and not even worthy of a response. I'll just wait until the Heat lose in the playoffs and troll all over your boards with this quote. I just saved it to a Word document.

Irony.

B.F.D. The Sixers and Knicks are mediocre teams. The Hawks are sometimes good, sometimes not. The Heat are garbage. Your bandwagon fan base will see that in a few weeks.

Garbage? they are favored to win the rest of the games. So 60 wins is within reach. 60 win team= Garbage. OKAY.

If your team didn't play like a bunch of whiny ****es and keep losing to the top eastern teams then maybe you'd have that #1 spot. Sorry, but not good enough.

The #2 spot is fine. good enough for the #2 spot which is not bad. Certainly not "garbage".

LMFAO... stop. ESPN is paid off by the league to skew stats. That is a proven fact. Also that is number of tickets sold. Brokers buy them up to make attendance look better on paper. Happens all the time. That arena is empty night-in and night-out. No one cares about sports in that town and all you need to do is turn a TV on and hear a pin drop in that pathetic arena.

What? So your theory is that ESPN is making up attendance numbers and Brokers are purposely losing money by buying tickets that will never be sold? Interesting theory.

again. the arena is packed, night in and night out. There is video/pictures of it.

You don't know anyone in the Heat's organization. You are lying to try to sound important. Of course I'm not going to give you the name of my source, but he has told me countless times how embarrassed he is to be in that arena. As overrated as your team is(and boy is it overrated) and as overrated as Lebron is, it is a shame they can't sell out a game at that place. The Cavs have like 10 times the sellouts the Heat do and they have arguably the worst team in basketball.

I think everybody on this board knows WHO is lying here. You keep making these hyperbolic statements and you think they help to drive your point home (They "NEVER" sellout...when they sellout every game) yet, all they serve to do is to make you sound deranged.

[Uptown Report]

Westbrook36 just hates LeBron. I noticed that when he was on the Cavs a couple years back. LeBron is FAR from a loser that chokes at the end of games, but to a hater that's not the point.

I'm neutral on LeBron and LeBron is not far from that at all. Actually, it's pretty harshly accurate.

FALSE. It's just that no one cares about the times when he owns the 4th quarter, everyone wants to harp on the games where he misses the last shot.

This is true. Lebron also vastly outperforms his regular season numbers in the playoffs. Just like Wade.

But it is true that LBJ makes the ball stick down the stretch at times and Wade is a better closer.

[Uptown Report]

OH and BTW, the Heat have such trouble selling out that they are now charging people to be able to BUY tickets for the playoffs.

http://www.nba.com/heat/tickets/heat_pr ... _club.html

[LongLiveHinkie]

They also BEAT The Spurs by 30. They beat the Thunder. A Billups 37 foot shot beat the Heat. Not what Melo did. They will beat this Celtics team, but that is just opinion. The Bulls? LOL. They are so much better than us that they needed to win at the buzzer at home for the first two. Teh last one they flat out needed to rob us of a win with 4 bogus ft's.

Just full of excuses aren't you? The fact is the Knicks are garbage and are the worst defensive team in NBA history, and you couldn't outscore them in your own building. Billups hit a big shot. I know that is a shock to you, since you aren't used to them with Lebron on your squad, but that's what happens. It should have never come to that. How's that great defense by the way? Aren't they supposed to get big stops in big moments?

Again, you can stop with the insults. I am an adult and I TRYING to speak to you as if you are one as well. You are in no position to talk about ANYBODY's basketball knowledge since it is YOU and not ME that is becoming a celebrity online due to your ridiculous pronouncements in this thread.

Insults? There have been no insults here. Get off your high horse with the "adult" garbage while you're at it. I don't care how adult you think you are or how adult you want to come off as on the internet for your bandwagon fans over on the Heat boards. Like I said, I welcome this "celebrity" status and will take all comers because Heat fans just don't have the basketball acumen to debate with me. As you are proving right here.

This is just ignorant. Right down to who is the Heat's starting point guard. Bibby is only starting due to Chalmers injury. There is not one person that will agree with your assessment of the Heat's defense. Since you don;t care about stats (how convenient) then I guess you don;t want to hear about Def. Winshares that prove you wrong on EVERY count in this quote. Bibby however is not very good defensively. You are right about that...but he is NOT the Heat's starter. He is a 15 minute a game guy off the bench. He is only starting due to injury.

Chalmers isn't anything special defensively either. The fact still remains that Bosh can't defend, Anthony can't defend, Bibby can't defend, Lebron can't defend, Miller can't defend, House can't defend, Jones can't defend. You have one good defensive player on YOUR WHOLE TEAM.... if you want to call it a team. I think it's a disgrace to the word personally. Teams play together. Not one on one playground-style basketball.

Garbage? they are favored to win the rest of the games. So 60 wins is within reach. 60 win team= Garbage. OKAY.

Ooohh, they are favored are they? Weren't they favored against the Knicks too? What happened there. The Heat are awful this year against the spread. One of the all-time worst among playoff teams. They are well below .500 if you talk to big-time bettors in Vegas.

The #2 spot is fine. good enough for the #2 spot which is not bad. Certainly not "garbage".

The Heat kind of are though and it will be proven in the playoffs.

What? So your theory is that ESPN is making up attendance numbers and Brokers are purposely losing money by buying tickets that will never be sold? Interesting theory.

again. the arena is packed, night in and night out. There is video/pictures of it.

Doctored, photoshopped, edited, etc etc.

I think everybody on this board knows WHO is lying here. You keep making these hyperbolic statements and you think they help to drive your point home (They "NEVER" sellout...when they sellout every game) yet, all they serve to do is to make you sound deranged.

Yet, you still can't refute them with facts. How does it feel to be owned by someone you consider "deranged" right now? I'm guessing it will feel similar to the feeling you'll get when the Heat get bounced out of the playoffs and all your bandwagon fans go back to not caring about sports. Hey, maybe the Marlins will be able to have more than 2,000 fans at a game this year!

[sixerswillrule]

LOL. Uptown Report, stop wasting your time. Not worth it.

[KDS91]

Uptown Report, just stop. Westbrook36 is clearly in his own world.