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Re: Hinkie in Hindsight? 

Post#41 » by phifans » Thu Oct 27, 2016 11:04 pm

Mik317 wrote:if Embiid works out, then Hinkie is validated.

Don't give me that **** that it was an easy choice because no the **** it isn't. That took balls and many GMs wouldn't have done that in the same situation.

everything else is pointless to talk about when validating "the process".


I doubt that. Embiid's talent is a can't miss after Wiggins and Parker got picked up no matter what happens.
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Re: Hinkie in Hindsight? 

Post#42 » by juice4080 » Thu Oct 27, 2016 11:35 pm

mksp wrote:Hinkie blew the Okafor pick and as well as he did from a team building philosophy, that was an awful miss with a premium pick.

Myles Turner dropping 30/16/4 and Okafor out there missing rotations just like he did last year. SMH.


hinkie wanted Deangelo Russell but he was drafted by the lakers....then he wanted to draft porzingis but ownenship overrulled him
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Re: Hinkie in Hindsight? 

Post#43 » by NYSixersFan » Thu Oct 27, 2016 11:45 pm

Unbreakable99 wrote:
NYSixersFan wrote:I really don't want to talk about Hinkie anymore, but threads like this force me to do so :)

The Hinkie supporters are so narrow minded....They refuse to admit that there is more to being a GM then just tanking...and that he failed miserably in the other areas...


You still don't get it. Without Hinkie there is no Embiid or Simmons. It's very unlikely that another GM would have traded Jrue and then moved up to get Noel. You're confused.



None of us know what would of happened for the 3 years Hinkie was here if we had another GM......I know we wouldn't have been a complete laughingstock and a disgrace.

What really killed us was the Bynum injury....it created Hinkie and the tank.
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Re: Hinkie in Hindsight? 

Post#44 » by eagereyez » Thu Oct 27, 2016 11:46 pm

NYSixersFan wrote:I really don't want to talk about Hinkie anymore, but threads like this force me to do so :)

The Hinkie supporters are so narrow minded....They refuse to admit that there is more to being a GM then just tanking...and that he failed miserably in the other areas...

You weren't paying attention if you think the only thing he did was tank.
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Re: Hinkie in Hindsight? 

Post#45 » by NYSixersFan » Thu Oct 27, 2016 11:50 pm

TTP wrote:
NYSixersFan wrote:I really don't want to talk about Hinkie anymore, but threads like this force me to do so :)

The Hinkie supporters are so narrow minded....They refuse to admit that there is more to being a GM then just tanking...and that he failed miserably in the other areas...


The bolded is a pretty comical statement.

Narrow-minded (http://www.dictionary.com/browse/narrow-minded)
1.having or showing a prejudiced mind, as persons or opinions; biased.
2.not receptive to new ideas; having a closed mind.

You're free to disagree with individual opinions but characterizing every person that supported Sam Hinkie together and judging them as narrow-minded seems to fit the definition of narrow-minded.



They are narrow minded if they don't look at all the facts; therefore causing a biased opinion
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Re: Hinkie in Hindsight? 

Post#46 » by 76thBearCub » Fri Oct 28, 2016 12:09 am

NYSixersFan wrote:
TTP wrote:
NYSixersFan wrote:I really don't want to talk about Hinkie anymore, but threads like this force me to do so :)

The Hinkie supporters are so narrow minded....They refuse to admit that there is more to being a GM then just tanking...and that he failed miserably in the other areas...


The bolded is a pretty comical statement.

Narrow-minded (http://www.dictionary.com/browse/narrow-minded)
1.having or showing a prejudiced mind, as persons or opinions; biased.
2.not receptive to new ideas; having a closed mind.

You're free to disagree with individual opinions but characterizing every person that supported Sam Hinkie together and judging them as narrow-minded seems to fit the definition of narrow-minded.



They are narrow minded if they don't look at all the facts; therefore causing a biased opinion


You'll probably be the first on here slobbing Colangelo when he makes the Lakers and or Kings pick.
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Re: Hinkie in Hindsight? 

Post#47 » by BullyKing » Fri Oct 28, 2016 12:14 am

NYSixersFan wrote:
TTP wrote:
NYSixersFan wrote:I really don't want to talk about Hinkie anymore, but threads like this force me to do so :)

The Hinkie supporters are so narrow minded....They refuse to admit that there is more to being a GM then just tanking...and that he failed miserably in the other areas...


The bolded is a pretty comical statement.

Narrow-minded (http://www.dictionary.com/browse/narrow-minded)
1.having or showing a prejudiced mind, as persons or opinions; biased.
2.not receptive to new ideas; having a closed mind.

You're free to disagree with individual opinions but characterizing every person that supported Sam Hinkie together and judging them as narrow-minded seems to fit the definition of narrow-minded.



They are narrow minded if they don't look at all the facts; therefore causing a biased opinion


This is like Stuart Smiley talking to himself in the mirror. It sickens me to think of you sitting there enjoying the product of Hinkie's effort with complete blissful ignorance of the incredible incongruity of your beliefs. Who you voting for?
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Re: Hinkie in Hindsight? 

Post#48 » by Eyeamok » Fri Oct 28, 2016 12:20 am

NYSixersFan wrote:I really don't want to talk about Hinkie anymore, but threads like this force me to do so :)

The Hinkie supporters are so narrow minded....They refuse to admit that there is more to being a GM then just tanking...and that he failed miserably in the other areas...



How many times are you going to say you don't want to talk about Hinkie but do it either by calling his name directly or by innuendo?
I count at least 6 times since he left the organization. Is it the troll in you or is it just lack of self control. Either way by the end of he season you will probably be up to 50 and still saying. "I don't want to talk about Hinkie."
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Re: Hinkie in Hindsight? 

Post#49 » by hookshot199 » Fri Oct 28, 2016 12:25 am

NYSixersFan wrote:I really don't want to talk about Hinkie anymore, but threads like this force me to do so :)

The Hinkie supporters are so narrow minded....They refuse to admit that there is more to being a GM then just tanking...and that he failed miserably in the other areas...


We're not narrow minded, we're right-minded. Hinkie's only serious failures were that he occasionally missed the big picture with his low-ranked picks (the Golden State swap is an example) and he miscalculated on not having a veteran point guard, which made the team unwatchable last year. But on balance, given where we were and where we're now, it's a pretty good job of general-managing.
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Re: Hinkie in Hindsight? 

Post#50 » by Eyeamok » Fri Oct 28, 2016 12:40 am

mksp wrote:Hinkie blew the Okafor pick and as well as he did from a team building philosophy, that was an awful miss with a premium pick.

Myles Turner dropping 30/16/4 and Okafor out there missing rotations just like he did last year. SMH.


Now we are jumping on the Myles Turner bandwagon. My Cod.

1. I could be wrong, but you're the kind of fan that expected Hinkie to hit on every draft and every trade. It's impossible you can't hit on every trade you can't hit on every draft. People seem to forget that when Hinkie tanked the right way, he was out tanned by teams that just phoned it in near the end of the season and ended up with a worse record than the 76ers. The only way to increase the odds in the team's favor was to tank without shame. Come on man you can't have forgot about that so soon.

2. Myles Turner? When Myles Turner was coming out professionals scouts,that get paid for their opinions, thought that Turner's body was not sound, he had a funny gait when the ran and they thought he was a disaster waiting to happen. How many teams passed on him? Now you want to hold him up as a shining example of a Hinkie miss because he was an obvious pick?! Again come on man you're better than that.

3. The first part of the process was to accumulate assets and have enough assets that even if you miss on a pick of two the odds are still in your favor that you'll hit one or two out of the ballpark. With the picks and swaps that Hinkie accumulated plus Embiid and Simmions. He did an amazing job. Considering what he started out with.
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Re: Hinkie in Hindsight? 

Post#51 » by TTP » Fri Oct 28, 2016 12:46 am

NYSixersFan wrote:
TTP wrote:
NYSixersFan wrote:I really don't want to talk about Hinkie anymore, but threads like this force me to do so :)

The Hinkie supporters are so narrow minded....They refuse to admit that there is more to being a GM then just tanking...and that he failed miserably in the other areas...


The bolded is a pretty comical statement.

Narrow-minded (http://www.dictionary.com/browse/narrow-minded)
1.having or showing a prejudiced mind, as persons or opinions; biased.
2.not receptive to new ideas; having a closed mind.

You're free to disagree with individual opinions but characterizing every person that supported Sam Hinkie together and judging them as narrow-minded seems to fit the definition of narrow-minded.



They are narrow minded if they don't look at all the facts; therefore causing a biased opinion


I'm a Hinkie supporter and have never debated with you in the past. While some Hinkie supporters might be narrow-minded, there are plenty that aren't and you certainly don't know anything about me. Yet you've already labeled me as narrow-minded because I'm a Hinkie supporter. You are being biased and narrow-minded in this instance.
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Re: Hinkie in Hindsight? 

Post#52 » by BullyKing » Fri Oct 28, 2016 12:56 am

TTP wrote:
NYSixersFan wrote:
TTP wrote:
The bolded is a pretty comical statement.

Narrow-minded (http://www.dictionary.com/browse/narrow-minded)
1.having or showing a prejudiced mind, as persons or opinions; biased.
2.not receptive to new ideas; having a closed mind.

You're free to disagree with individual opinions but characterizing every person that supported Sam Hinkie together and judging them as narrow-minded seems to fit the definition of narrow-minded.



They are narrow minded if they don't look at all the facts; therefore causing a biased opinion


I'm a Hinkie supporter and have never debated with you in the past. While some Hinkie supporters might be narrow-minded, there are plenty that aren't and you certainly don't know anything about me. Yet you've already labeled me as narrow-minded because I'm a Hinkie supporter. You are being biased and narrow-minded in this instance.


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Re: Hinkie in Hindsight? 

Post#53 » by Ericb5 » Fri Oct 28, 2016 12:58 am

iMoreland wrote:Hinkie was the best thing to happen to the Sixers since AI.


Hinkie was better than AI because AI was a fundamentally flawed player, and Hinkie has no fundamental flaws.

Embiid, and Simmons will take us farther than AI ever did.


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Re: Hinkie in Hindsight? 

Post#54 » by LloydFree » Fri Oct 28, 2016 1:00 am

Mik317 wrote:if Embiid works out, then Hinkie is validated.

Don't give me that **** that it was an easy choice because no the **** it isn't. That took balls and many GMs wouldn't have done that in the same situation.

everything else is pointless to talk about when validating "the process".

That's exactly right. I'm no blind Hinkie supporter at all. He had multiple decisions that I disagreed with vehemently, including selecting Dario Saric and the entire disastrous 2015 draft. But anybody that doesn't recognize the foresight that it took to trade Jrue Holiday (to start all over and get back those 1st rounders owed to Orlando and Miami) and draft Embiid while hurt, is lying to himself.

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Re: Hinkie in Hindsight? 

Post#55 » by Eyeamok » Fri Oct 28, 2016 1:00 am

You know in hindsight. Jerry might have done his son a major disservice by getting him this job. On paper it seems like an easy gig. Take over a struggling franchise and return it to a respectable state. But Jerry and company underestimated how engaged in the process the fans actually were/are. They may not have liked losing but they understood why. They were given a blueprint and a reason why things were the way they were. And fans believed that they were not just going to be a respectable team but a team that could contend for a championship in the near future.

Brian has come in behind, some would say, a genius in Hinkie, that may not have won a lot but left the cupboards full. Now Brian what are you going to do with all the assets, cap space and talent you have? Can we now go to stage two and become a championship contender? Those are some mighty big shoes Jerry has given his son to fill.
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Re: Hinkie in Hindsight? 

Post#56 » by NYSixersFan » Fri Oct 28, 2016 1:08 am

BullyKing wrote:
NYSixersFan wrote:
TTP wrote:
The bolded is a pretty comical statement.

Narrow-minded (http://www.dictionary.com/browse/narrow-minded)
1.having or showing a prejudiced mind, as persons or opinions; biased.
2.not receptive to new ideas; having a closed mind.

You're free to disagree with individual opinions but characterizing every person that supported Sam Hinkie together and judging them as narrow-minded seems to fit the definition of narrow-minded.



They are narrow minded if they don't look at all the facts; therefore causing a biased opinion


This is like Stuart Smiley talking to himself in the mirror. It sickens me to think of you sitting there enjoying the product of Hinkie's effort with complete blissful ignorance of the incredible incongruity of your beliefs. Who you voting for?



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Re: Hinkie in Hindsight? 

Post#57 » by NYSixersFan » Fri Oct 28, 2016 1:09 am

76thBearCub wrote:
NYSixersFan wrote:
TTP wrote:
The bolded is a pretty comical statement.

Narrow-minded (http://www.dictionary.com/browse/narrow-minded)
1.having or showing a prejudiced mind, as persons or opinions; biased.
2.not receptive to new ideas; having a closed mind.

You're free to disagree with individual opinions but characterizing every person that supported Sam Hinkie together and judging them as narrow-minded seems to fit the definition of narrow-minded.



They are narrow minded if they don't look at all the facts; therefore causing a biased opinion


You'll probably be the first on here slobbing Colangelo when he makes the Lakers and or Kings pick.



I'm actually hoping he trades the pick
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Re: Hinkie in Hindsight? 

Post#58 » by BullyKing » Fri Oct 28, 2016 1:11 am

NYSixersFan wrote:
BullyKing wrote:
NYSixersFan wrote:

They are narrow minded if they don't look at all the facts; therefore causing a biased opinion


This is like Stuart Smiley talking to himself in the mirror. It sickens me to think of you sitting there enjoying the product of Hinkie's effort with complete blissful ignorance of the incredible incongruity of your beliefs. Who you voting for?



Colangelo will make the Sixers great again! :)


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Re: Hinkie in Hindsight? 

Post#59 » by NYSixersFan » Fri Oct 28, 2016 1:11 am

Eyeamok wrote:
NYSixersFan wrote:I really don't want to talk about Hinkie anymore, but threads like this force me to do so :)

The Hinkie supporters are so narrow minded....They refuse to admit that there is more to being a GM then just tanking...and that he failed miserably in the other areas...



How many times are you going to say you don't want to talk about Hinkie but do it either by calling his name directly or by innuendo?
I count at least 6 times since he left the organization. Is it the troll in you or is it just lack of self control. Either way by the end of he season you will probably be up to 50 and still saying. "I don't want to talk about Hinkie."



I wouldn't be talking about him, but someone decided to create another Hinkie thread...and generally, I only bring him up in response to someone commenting about him
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Re: Hinkie in Hindsight? 

Post#60 » by Eyeamok » Fri Oct 28, 2016 1:13 am

NYSixersFan wrote:
Eyeamok wrote:
NYSixersFan wrote:I really don't want to talk about Hinkie anymore, but threads like this force me to do so :)

The Hinkie supporters are so narrow minded....They refuse to admit that there is more to being a GM then just tanking...and that he failed miserably in the other areas...



How many times are you going to say you don't want to talk about Hinkie but do it either by calling his name directly or by innuendo?
I count at least 6 times since he left the organization. Is it the troll in you or is it just lack of self control. Either way by the end of he season you will probably be up to 50 and still saying. "I don't want to talk about Hinkie."



I wouldn't be talking about him, but someone decided to create another Hinkie thread...and generally, I only bring him up in response to someone commenting about him


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