Horford to OKC For Green

cool93 · Post #41 » by **cool93** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:46 pm

Marry me, Daryl!

phiphan · Post #42 » by **phiphan** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:46 pm

sixers4real · Post #43 » by **sixers4real** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:46 pm

Stanford wrote:
XtremeDunkz wrote:Not sure how anyone could dislike this. Needed to be done.

Why?

Because we don’t need Horford. Never needed. He cannot co-exist with Embiid.

It was an awful singing last year.

Post #44 » by **Stanford** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:48 pm

sixers4real wrote:It was an awful singing last year.

oh okay

Post #45 » by **BullyKing** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:49 pm

I'd feel a lot better about this trade if we use that TPE and not just pocket the savings.

Negrodamus · Post #46 » by **Negrodamus** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:50 pm

I will say, however, that Daryl does not have "the Longest View in the Room"™ with this trade. Leaning more towards "Landing the Plane"™.

Sportfan73 · Post #47 » by **Sportfan73** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:52 pm

BullyKing wrote:I'd feel a lot better about this trade if we use that TPE and not just pocket the savings.

I mean we have expirings to match salary instead of horfords deal now

Skates · Post #48 » by **Skates** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:53 pm

Harris is a much better fit and player at PF and is in his prime years playing for a coach who knows how to get the best out of him. Horford was a more movable contract, but still a bad one and his fit here was just terrible. Agree with Bully, the deal looks a lot better if that TPE is used in a subsequent deal. 2025 is past the Jo/Simmons window, why they wanted it and why we gave it up.

Post #49 » by **Stanford** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:54 pm

Sportfan73 wrote:
BullyKing wrote:I'd feel a lot better about this trade if we use that TPE and not just pocket the savings.

I mean we have expirings to match salary instead of horfords deal now

Good point. True

Skates wrote:Harris is a much better fit and player at PF and is in his prime years playing for a coach who knows how to get the best out of him.

True, but part of our problem is that our best PF plays out of position at point guard

Lou_23 · Post #50 » by **Lou_23** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:56 pm

Good trade, Green and Ferguson are useful guys, they can shoot 3's. And everybody knows that you need to add some picks to trade the Horford contract.

Presti will trade Horford for a first next year lol

Skates · Post #51 » by **Skates** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:57 pm

Negrodamus wrote:I will say, however, that Daryl does not have "the Longest View in the Room"™ with this trade. Leaning more towards "Landing the Plane"™.

Which is where we should be. Not win now at all costs, but preserves assets during the prime of our window.

SouthJersey · Post #52 » by **SouthJersey** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:57 pm

Thank god he's out of here. There is nothing more frustrating to a young player than an old guy taking up all the cap space and playing time because of that contract. He was a terrible fit and a terrible signing and one of the reasons I stopped watching the Sixers last year

mksp · Post #53 » by **mksp** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:57 pm

Horford signing was an overreaction to the Joel's +/- rating in Game 7.

Harris signing was an overreaction to Butler situation & cap economics.

Brand panicked as GM, and now Morey is cleaning it up.

A lot more flexibility now. This was a good deal.

Negrodamus · Post #54 » by **Negrodamus** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:57 pm

Could be worse, we could have done this just to sign Rajon Rondo:

Sixers received: Nik Stauskas, Carl Landry, Jason Thompson, the right to swap first-round picks with the Kings in 2017, and an unprotected first-round pick in 2019

Kings received: The draft rights to Arturas Gudaitis and Luka Mitrovic, presumed cap space to sign free agents

Wilfried · Post #55 » by **Wilfried** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:57 pm

Did Vin Fosh had the scoop?

Post #56 » by **Stanford** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:57 pm

mksp wrote:A lot more flexibility now.

To do what? Explain it to me like I'm Elton Brand

kriss73 · Post #57 » by **kriss73** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:58 pm

Sportfan73 wrote:
BullyKing wrote:I'd feel a lot better about this trade if we use that TPE and not just pocket the savings.

I mean we have expirings to match salary instead of horfords deal now

Yeah.

Green 15 + Scott 5 + Ferguson 4 are 24M expiring

Skates · Post #58 » by **Skates** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:59 pm

Stanford wrote:
Sportfan73 wrote:
BullyKing wrote:I'd feel a lot better about this trade if we use that TPE and not just pocket the savings.

I mean we have expirings to match salary instead of horfords deal now

Good point. True

Skates wrote:Harris is a much better fit and player at PF and is in his prime years playing for a coach who knows how to get the best out of him.

True, but part of our problem is that our best PF plays out of position at point guard

I am a Simmons at point whatever guy, I kind of hate him at PF.

Gunners1414 · Post #59 » by **Gunners1414** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:59 pm

Skates wrote:Seems to create an $11 million trade exception for us as well. 1-6 protection is reasonable. Precursor to later moves.

The next step should be moving Tobias Harris contract as well. He is the only non-superstar who has value... For him the sixers need a good PF and a decent backup PG for Ben. Then a back up center for Embiid in FA.

76thBearCub · Post #60 » by **76thBearCub** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:00 pm

Stanford wrote:
mksp wrote:A lot more flexibility now.

To do what? Explain it to me like I'm Elton Brand

Trades and such