New & improved Ben Simmons trade thread Part 9

ProcessDoctor · Post #41 » by **ProcessDoctor** » Sun Dec 26, 2021 6:07 pm

It’d have to be a 3-way deal for me with a Harris -Love swap included. No obvious 3rd team besides maybe Washington (Beal) or Portland (Lillard) though.

mjkvol · Post #42 » by **mjkvol** » Sun Dec 26, 2021 6:07 pm

Rastas wrote:
agiaco wrote:What Cavs package would entice you guys enough for Ben?

Sexton and Love

I'd only want Love if Tobias was included.

ProcessDoctor · Post #43 » by **ProcessDoctor** » Sun Dec 26, 2021 6:24 pm

MIN out: Beasley, Prince, 2022/2024/2026 FRPs, 2023/2025/2027 FRP swaps
MIN in: Simmons

OKC out: Shai, Dort
OKC in: Beasley, Prince, Springer, MIN 2022/2024/2026 FRPs & 2023/2025/2027 FRP swaps, PHI 2023 FRP & 2024 FRP swap

PHI out: Simmons, Springer, 2023 FRP & 2024 FRP swap
PHI in: Shai, Dort

Shai/Maxey/Milton
Curry/Dort/Joe
Green/Thybulle/Korkmaz
Harris/Niang/Reed
Embiid/Drummond/Bassey

Then find something to do with Harris.

Negrodamus · Post #44 » by **Negrodamus** » Sun Dec 26, 2021 7:32 pm

agiaco wrote:What Cavs package would entice you guys enough for Ben?

Nothing. Unless they are trading assets to a third team for a good player. If Morey does it for Sexton, I’ll be convinced he’s being held hostage.

Embiid P · Post #45 » by **Embiid P** » Sun Dec 26, 2021 9:57 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:MIN out: Beasley, Prince, 2022/2024/2026 FRPs, 2023/2025/2027 FRP swaps
MIN in: Simmons

OKC out: Shai, Dort
OKC in: Beasley, Prince, Springer, MIN 2022/2024/2026 FRPs & 2023/2025/2027 FRP swaps, PHI 2023 FRP & 2024 FRP swap

PHI out: Simmons, Springer, 2023 FRP & 2024 FRP swap
PHI in: Shai, Dort

Shai/Maxey/Milton
Curry/Dort/Joe
Green/Thybulle/Korkmaz
Harris/Niang/Reed
Embiid/Drummond/Bassey

Then find something to do with Harris.

Even if OKC agrees to do that trade (which I highly doubt), I fear the league may intervene given all of the picks that Presti has accumulated over the years and potentially block the trade.

I also think that MIN trading 3 FRPs and 3 swaps is too high of a price for Simmons.

ProcessDoctor · Post #46 » by **ProcessDoctor** » Mon Dec 27, 2021 12:28 am

Embiid P wrote:
ProcessDoctor wrote:MIN out: Beasley, Prince, 2022/2024/2026 FRPs, 2023/2025/2027 FRP swaps
MIN in: Simmons

OKC out: Shai, Dort
OKC in: Beasley, Prince, Springer, MIN 2022/2024/2026 FRPs & 2023/2025/2027 FRP swaps, PHI 2023 FRP & 2024 FRP swap

PHI out: Simmons, Springer, 2023 FRP & 2024 FRP swap
PHI in: Shai, Dort

Shai/Maxey/Milton
Curry/Dort/Joe
Green/Thybulle/Korkmaz
Harris/Niang/Reed
Embiid/Drummond/Bassey

Then find something to do with Harris.

Even if OKC agrees to do that trade (which I highly doubt), I fear the league may intervene given all of the picks that Presti has accumulated over the years and potentially block the trade.

I also think that MIN trading 3 FRPs and 3 swaps is too high of a price for Simmons.

Possibly, RE league intervening. I don’t know if they care about OKC that much since they’re such a small market. It was different with us since we are a top 5 sports market. Plus, this trade would end the Simmons saga here, which I’m sure the league would appreciate.

I think Minnesota will have to give up at least 3 and 3 if they’re not giving up one of KAT, Edwards, or DLO. Prince and Beasley are merely fillers here.

kuclas · Post #47 » by **kuclas** » Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:57 am

ProcessDoctor wrote:
Embiid P wrote:
ProcessDoctor wrote:MIN out: Beasley, Prince, 2022/2024/2026 FRPs, 2023/2025/2027 FRP swaps
MIN in: Simmons

OKC out: Shai, Dort
OKC in: Beasley, Prince, Springer, MIN 2022/2024/2026 FRPs & 2023/2025/2027 FRP swaps, PHI 2023 FRP & 2024 FRP swap

PHI out: Simmons, Springer, 2023 FRP & 2024 FRP swap
PHI in: Shai, Dort

Shai/Maxey/Milton
Curry/Dort/Joe
Green/Thybulle/Korkmaz
Harris/Niang/Reed
Embiid/Drummond/Bassey

Then find something to do with Harris.

Even if OKC agrees to do that trade (which I highly doubt), I fear the league may intervene given all of the picks that Presti has accumulated over the years and potentially block the trade.

I also think that MIN trading 3 FRPs and 3 swaps is too high of a price for Simmons.

Possibly, RE league intervening. I don’t know if they care about OKC that much since they’re such a small market. It was different with us since we are a top 5 sports market. Plus, this trade would end the Simmons saga here, which I’m sure the league would appreciate.

I think Minnesota will have to give up at least 3 and 3 if they’re not giving up one of KAT, Edwards, or DLO. Prince and Beasley are merely fillers here.

Dlo has very little value. I wouldn’t even put him into the equation unless he’s a salary filler.

Ant Man. He’s gonna to end up like Wiggins (empty stats) or flourish. It’s to be determined.

Towns is who is is. A great offensive center who sometimes plays defense.

I said it in another post. Wiggins and Edwards put up extremely similar stats when shooting roughly the same 19 shots a game. (Wiggins average 23/4/3) age 21. Edwards 22/4/3 age 20.

So which way is Edwards going to go. If he’s not number 1-2 options. And Minnesota isn’t going to make the playoffs. Timberwolves need to figure out to ship towns out and stick with Edwards. Edwards may have same issue as Wiggins. A lot of inefficiency chucking. Good some days. Bad some days.

If Minnesota were smart. And they don’t make the playoffs after this season. They need to trade towns for capela hunter and. A pick with hawks if they can’t get Simmons

Either way. They aren’t going anywhere with Edwards towns and certainly not dlo.

Mik317 · Post #48 » by **Mik317** » Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:27 am

another tiny guard who doesn't like to shoot a lot of 3s is the last thing we need. Thus the Cavs don't have anything of value for us

Sportfan73 · Post #49 » by **Sportfan73** » Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:58 am

Just swap him for fox and let’s go

Tomjas · Post #50 » by **Tomjas** » Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:14 am

Sportfan73 wrote:Just swap him for fox and let’s go

Fox sux

Rastas · Post #51 » by **Rastas** » Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:44 am

Rubio/Okoro/Sexton/Love/ 22 1st and 23 Swap for Ben/ Tobias/ 22 2nd

the_process · Post #52 » by **the_process** » Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:28 am

Rastas wrote:Rubio/Okoro/Sexton/Love/ 22 1st and 23 Swap for Ben/ Tobias/ 22 2nd

Neither of the names Garland or Mobley are written down there, and it doesn’t include 6 years of draft control… so it’s an instant no.

No one wants to dump Tobias more than me, but not getting any big time piece in a Ben trade means Morey isn’t going for it.

RiRuHoops · Post #53 » by **RiRuHoops** » Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:27 pm

Sixers trade BS for Brown

Celtics trade Brown for Fox and Kings frp (protected)

Kings trade Fox and frp for Simmons

eyeatoma · Post #54 » by **eyeatoma** » Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:37 pm

RiRuHoops wrote:Sixers trade BS for Brown

Celtics trade Brown for Fox and Kings frp (protected)

Kings trade Fox and frp for Simmons

I would most definitely be down with this trade!

RiRuHoops · Post #55 » by **RiRuHoops** » Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:41 pm

eyeatoma wrote:
RiRuHoops wrote:Sixers trade BS for Brown

Celtics trade Brown for Fox and Kings frp (protected)

Kings trade Fox and frp for Simmons

I would most definitely be down with this trade!

and what if Curry for Shroeder is added to the trade ?

eyeatoma · Post #56 » by **eyeatoma** » Mon Dec 27, 2021 2:01 pm

RiRuHoops wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
RiRuHoops wrote:Sixers trade BS for Brown

Celtics trade Brown for Fox and Kings frp (protected)

Kings trade Fox and frp for Simmons

I would most definitely be down with this trade!

and what if Curry for Shroeder is added to the trade ?

Naw, think Curry is invaluable to this team. He works extremely well with Embiid and is on an amazing contract.

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stormi · Post #57 » by **stormi** » Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:00 pm

the_process wrote:
Rastas wrote:Rubio/Okoro/Sexton/Love/ 22 1st and 23 Swap for Ben/ Tobias/ 22 2nd

Neither of the names Garland or Mobley are written down there, and it doesn’t include 6 years of draft control… so it’s an instant no.

No one wants to dump Tobias more than me, but not getting any big time piece in a Ben trade means Morey isn’t going for it.

If Morey pulled Garland... Build a statue in his honor.

kuclas · Post #58 » by **kuclas** » Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:28 pm

stormi wrote:
the_process wrote:
Rastas wrote:Rubio/Okoro/Sexton/Love/ 22 1st and 23 Swap for Ben/ Tobias/ 22 2nd

Neither of the names Garland or Mobley are written down there, and it doesn’t include 6 years of draft control… so it’s an instant no.

No one wants to dump Tobias more than me, but not getting any big time piece in a Ben trade means Morey isn’t going for it.

If Morey pulled Garland... Build a statue in his honor.

Is Cleveland any good? Seems to be the best teams records have been teams relatively healthy (no significant player injury or Covid related injuries).

Even bulls got lucky with 3-4 games getting postponed

stormi · Post #59 » by **stormi** » Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:36 pm

kuclas wrote:
stormi wrote:
the_process wrote:
Neither of the names Garland or Mobley are written down there, and it doesn’t include 6 years of draft control… so it’s an instant no.

No one wants to dump Tobias more than me, but not getting any big time piece in a Ben trade means Morey isn’t going for it.

If Morey pulled Garland... Build a statue in his honor.

Is Cleveland any good? Seems to be the best teams records have been teams relatively healthy (no significant player injury or Covid related injuries).

Even bulls got lucky with 3-4 games getting postponed

Been really good this year. Second best defensive team in the league largely thanks to Evan Mobley who's been a revelation. Allen, Rubio and Love have been playing good ball too and DG's been running the offense. Solid young team that hasn't skipped a beat even with Sexton going down for the year.

the_process · Post #60 » by **the_process** » Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:11 pm

stormi wrote:
kuclas wrote:
stormi wrote:
If Morey pulled Garland... Build a statue in his honor.

Is Cleveland any good? Seems to be the best teams records have been teams relatively healthy (no significant player injury or Covid related injuries).

Even bulls got lucky with 3-4 games getting postponed

Been really good this year. Second best defensive team in the league largely thanks to Evan Mobley who's been a revelation. Allen, Rubio and Love have been playing good ball too and DG's been running the offense. Solid young team that hasn't skipped a beat even with Sexton going down for the year.

See, that's the not-so-secret catch, though. CLE is better without Sexton.

Mobley has been much better than expected, though. And Allen has taken a leap.