Game 38: Bulls vs 76ers....Embiidless

phillynative · Post #41 » by **phillynative** » Sat Jan 7, 2023 2:11 am

Defense is doo doo without Embiid in the middle

Murray_17 · Post #42 » by **Murray_17** » Sat Jan 7, 2023 2:11 am

Mik317 wrote:
Murray_17 wrote:
Phila Tough wrote:
Didn't stop us from signing and starting PJ. Why switch up the formula now

Pj at least gives you defense, what is Cousins giving you right now?

size

I mean, i know Doc hates Reed, but if it's for rebounds, he gives you similar production that what Cousins did last season.

76Love · Post #43 » by **76Love** » Sat Jan 7, 2023 2:12 am

Morey better not let the trade deadline go by without us making a trade

Could Whiteside really **** up 12 minutes for us as a backup C?

ExplosionsInDaSky · Post #44 » by **ExplosionsInDaSky** » Sat Jan 7, 2023 2:13 am

10 threes for Lavine tonight. THIS HAS GOT TO STOP! We keep doing this every couple of games. When will it end? Doc has to preach defending the three point shot. I just don't understand it. I also do not understand HOW a coach/system has yet to figure out how to defend it better. We've been doing this for almost ten years now. All these guys do is come off screens and hit threes. There has to be a way to combat that. First coach to figure it out will be crowned a genius. Pop has come close to figuring it out, but doesn't have it quite down. Great game for Lavine, but this can't continue with us. Watch...Lavine will go 3-16 in his next game.

ExplosionsInDaSky · Post #45 » by **ExplosionsInDaSky** » Sat Jan 7, 2023 2:14 am

It's too late for Cousins. We should have added him a month ago. He's going to sign with the Lakers or some other team and end up being of some use. I don't get it. Cousins would have been top priority after what he did with Denver last year. Hassan Whiteside should also be an option. We can't rebound the basketball at all without Embiid.

Murray_17 · Post #46 » by **Murray_17** » Sat Jan 7, 2023 2:15 am

We're bleh.

But the bucks gave 82 points to the Hornets in a half. They have look horrible for like a month straight

76ciology · Post #47 » by **76ciology** » Sat Jan 7, 2023 2:17 am

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:10 threes for Lavine tonight. THIS HAS GOT TO STOP! We keep doing this every couple of games. When will it end? Doc has to preach defending the three point shot. I just don't understand it. I also do not understand HOW a coach/system has yet to figure out how to defend it better. We've been doing this for almost ten years now. All these guys do is come off screens and hit threes. There has to be a way to combat that. First coach to figure it out will be crowned a genius. Pop has come close to figuring it out, but doesn't have it quite down. Great game for Lavine, but this can't continue with us. Watch...Lavine will go 3-16 in his next game.

My guess is because we’re sending help defense at the paint, but we need to grab the boards if we’re not running out to shooters.

NYSixersFan · Post #48 » by **NYSixersFan** » Sat Jan 7, 2023 2:22 am

Imagine where we would be now and in the future if the fraud traded for Haliburton instead of his BFF.

76ciology · Post #49 » by **76ciology** » Sat Jan 7, 2023 2:29 am

The Harrell signing was a bad move.

To play small ball, you either play a PF at the C with multiple wings or a big C with multiple guards.

You can play good basketball with a small C with multiple guards.

Having Maxey on the floor feels like we’re getting extra points because of his shooting and speed but it also feels like we dont have 5 guys on the floor on the other end.

When the opponent get this hot, you either have to match then on offense or play better defense.

Embiid P · Post #50 » by **Embiid P** » Sat Jan 7, 2023 2:30 am

Time to sit Harden again at least once vs. the Pistons. The OT game vs. the Pacers took all the energy out of him.

ExplosionsInDaSky · Post #51 » by **ExplosionsInDaSky** » Sat Jan 7, 2023 2:31 am

76ciology wrote:
ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:10 threes for Lavine tonight. THIS HAS GOT TO STOP! We keep doing this every couple of games. When will it end? Doc has to preach defending the three point shot. I just don't understand it. I also do not understand HOW a coach/system has yet to figure out how to defend it better. We've been doing this for almost ten years now. All these guys do is come off screens and hit threes. There has to be a way to combat that. First coach to figure it out will be crowned a genius. Pop has come close to figuring it out, but doesn't have it quite down. Great game for Lavine, but this can't continue with us. Watch...Lavine will go 3-16 in his next game.

My guess is because we’re sending help defense at the paint, but we need to grab the boards if we’re not running out to shooters.

We're overplaying a lot too on the perimeter. I give props to Chicago, they sliced right through our zone defense tonight by going inside. We didn't have Embiid and both Harrell and Reed are power forwards playing the center position. No length, no size, no shot blocking, no rebounding, not enough athleticism to guard the perimeter. This is going to continue being our downfall all year long. We're going to have to outscore teams until we get the right kind of length and rebounding that we need to defend better. I can beat this drum all year long....Kyle Anderson. That's who should have been the signing in the offseason. Done is done, Tucker is here for better or worse...Until he's 40.

phillynative · Post #52 » by **phillynative** » Sat Jan 7, 2023 2:33 am

This is where a 3 & D wing comes in to play to stick on Lavine. Deanthony and Maxey too short . Harden and Tobias too slow. You need a wing that can use their size and length and still athletic enough to keep up with guards. Once Lavine got hot it was over. Matisse?

ProcessDoctor · Post #53 » by **ProcessDoctor** » Sat Jan 7, 2023 2:33 am

NYSixersFan wrote:Imagine where we would be now and in the future if the fraud traded for Haliburton instead of his BFF.

The future would look brighter but not sure we'd be more or less of a contender this season.

Embiid P · Post #54 » by **Embiid P** » Sat Jan 7, 2023 2:37 am

phillynative wrote:This is where a 3 & D wing comes in to play to stick on Lavine. Deanthony and Maxey too short . Harden and Tobias too slow. You need a wing that can use their size and length and still athletic enough to keep up with guards. Once Lavine got hot it was over. Matisse?

Well we have House but he's kind of a bum so...

76ciology · Post #55 » by **76ciology** » Sat Jan 7, 2023 2:39 am

ProcessDoctor wrote:
NYSixersFan wrote:Imagine where we would be now and in the future if the fraud traded for Haliburton instead of his BFF.

The future would look brighter but not sure we'd be more or less of a contender this season.

Yes.

Hali = better reg season team and future
Harden = better playoffs and right now

ExplosionsInDaSky · Post #56 » by **ExplosionsInDaSky** » Sat Jan 7, 2023 2:39 am

76ciology wrote:The Harrell signing was a bad move.
.

I dont' think it was. We aren't exactly paying him a ton of money. There were really no better options out there and he has great chemistry with James Harden. I just think Harrell has to be used a certain way. He's effective against teams that don't have a ton of size and athleticism, and he's a solid regular season player who can help preserve Embiid. Thing is right now, he's being asked to do more than he should. Harrell should be an instant offense, hustle type of player that you put out there when the matchup is best served. Keep in mind he was a late offseason addition...Almost bottom of the barrel to be honest. We completely ignored the backup center conundrum despite it being a crystal clear guarantee that Embiid IS going to miss at least 20 games. There are some names out there that can help with the rebounding issues. Hassan Whiteside and Cousins both fit the description. Morey wont do it though. It's not his motto. A trade is possible at the deadline, but I'm not sure about that either. Who exactly are we going to move?

mjkvol · Post #57 » by **mjkvol** » Sat Jan 7, 2023 2:42 am

Bucks down 30 to Charlotte at home late in the 3rd.

ExplosionsInDaSky · Post #58 » by **ExplosionsInDaSky** » Sat Jan 7, 2023 2:42 am

phillynative wrote:This is where a 3 & D wing comes in to play to stick on Lavine. Deanthony and Maxey too short . Harden and Tobias too slow. You need a wing that can use their size and length and still athletic enough to keep up with guards. Once Lavine got hot it was over. Matisse?

Doc did pivot to Matisse, but Matisse got burned tonight too and on top of that, he's a complete zero on offense when Harden isn't out there to get him the ball. The three still isn't falling for him and that's going to be his downfall in this league. Until he can get that shot down, he's nothing more than a dart throw in hopes of shifting the momentum. He has his uses, you can put him in there some nights and he turns up. On nights like tonight, he's frustrating to watch because he never finds a rhythm on either end.

76ciology · Post #59 » by **76ciology** » Sat Jan 7, 2023 2:44 am

Lavine was just too hot. This is the NBA, the league wants a tit for tat battle. But we can’t set the stage for our guys because we’re not making shots (i find Tobi to have missed 2-3 of open 3s and lightly contested jumpers at the post down the stretch) and we’re getting out rebounded

76ciology · Post #60 » by **76ciology** » Sat Jan 7, 2023 2:48 am

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:
76ciology wrote:The Harrell signing was a bad move.
.

I dont' think it was. We aren't exactly paying him a ton of money. There were really no better options out there and he has great chemistry with James Harden. I just think Harrell has to be used a certain way. He's effective against teams that don't have a ton of size and athleticism, and he's a solid regular season player who can help preserve Embiid. Thing is right now, he's being asked to do more than he should. Harrell should be an instant offense, hustle type of player that you put out there when the matchup is best served. Keep in mind he was a late offseason addition...Almost bottom of the barrel to be honest. We completely ignored the backup center conundrum despite it being a crystal clear guarantee that Embiid IS going to miss at least 20 games. There are some names out there that can help with the rebounding issues. Hassan Whiteside and Cousins both fit the description. Morey wont do it though. It's not his motto. A trade is possible at the deadline, but I'm not sure about that either. Who exactly are we going to move?

True.

From a value standpoint, what you said is right.

But from a fit standpoint, a guy like Whiteside probably makes more sense.

If we’re gonna play with a handful of guards or not athletic forwards, then you need a C who can carry the team’s interior defense and rebounding. And if it’s not enough, you may even need another big at 4, then run a 3 guard unit.