Offseason Plan B: Sell the cap for assets?

[LeonJordanJr24]

Throwing all my draft capital for Ingram he's only 26.

Resigning Oubre

[elchengue20]

I'm not completely sold on Ingram. On paper he looks nice but he showed in Team USA he's not a good off ball player. Don't see him as a great complementary 3rd guy to Maxey/Embiid.

Some Tobias vibes in the sense that he's more of a mediocre #2 than a great #3, even if he's way better than Tobias(not difficut lol).

[SixersSince82]

I'm not completely sold on Ingram. On paper he looks nice but he showed in Team USA he's not a good off ball player. Don't see him as a great complementary 3rd guy to Maxey/Embiid.

Some Tobias vibes in the sense that he's more of a mediocre #2 than a great #3, even if he's way better than Tobias(not difficut lol).

I'm not completely sold Ingram is the right guy, but personally, I think this team desperately needs another on ball player.

We need another player (besides Maxey) who will command Joel's respect, and for lack of a better word, force the ball out of his hands. This is what will get Joel more rest and hopefully set him up to be healthy in the playoffs.

The whole, role player depth/off ball player route, only puts more weight on Joel's shoulders imo, as he'd need to become more of a playmaker, with the ball in his hands more, to get the best out of role players who generally need to be set up by someone.

Also, an on ball scorer alleviates some Maxeys responsibilities during the 1/3 of the season Joel is injured and not playing.

[elchengue20]

I'm not completely sold on Ingram. On paper he looks nice but he showed in Team USA he's not a good off ball player. Don't see him as a great complementary 3rd guy to Maxey/Embiid.

Some Tobias vibes in the sense that he's more of a mediocre #2 than a great #3, even if he's way better than Tobias(not difficut lol).

I'm not completely sold Ingram is the right guy, but personally, I think this team desperately needs another on ball player.

We need another player (besides Maxey) who will command Joel's respect, and for lack of a better word, force the ball out of his hands. This is what will get Joel more rest and hopefully set him up to be healthy in the playoffs.

The whole, role player depth/off ball player route, only puts more weight on Joel's shoulders imo, as he'd need to become more of a playmaker, with the ball in his hands more, to get the best out of role players who generally need to be set up by someone.

Also, an on ball scorer alleviates some Maxeys responsibilities during the 1/3 of the season Joel is injured and not playing.

I agree and understand the idea, but for example we could get maybe someone like Paul George or Lauri that can play well on ball and off ball.

The issue in those cases are one is a declining 34 yrs old player asking for a multiyear max and the other one is going to take all our assets.

Is not an easy decision, hope Morey can figure it out.

[mjkvol]

I'm not completely sold on Ingram. On paper he looks nice but he showed in Team USA he's not a good off ball player. Don't see him as a great complementary 3rd guy to Maxey/Embiid.

Some Tobias vibes in the sense that he's more of a mediocre #2 than a great #3, even if he's way better than Tobias(not difficut lol).

I'm not completely sold Ingram is the right guy, but personally, I think this team desperately needs another on ball player.

We need another player (besides Maxey) who will command Joel's respect, and for lack of a better word, force the ball out of his hands. This is what will get Joel more rest and hopefully set him up to be healthy in the playoffs.

The whole, role player depth/off ball player route, only puts more weight on Joel's shoulders imo, as he'd need to become more of a playmaker, with the ball in his hands more, to get the best out of role players who generally need to be set up by someone.

Also, an on ball scorer alleviates some Maxeys responsibilities during the 1/3 of the season Joel is injured and not playing.

This is the best Ingram argument I've seen.

[youngcrev]

I'm not completely sold on Ingram. On paper he looks nice but he showed in Team USA he's not a good off ball player. Don't see him as a great complementary 3rd guy to Maxey/Embiid.

Some Tobias vibes in the sense that he's more of a mediocre #2 than a great #3, even if he's way better than Tobias(not difficut lol).

I'm not completely sold Ingram is the right guy, but personally, I think this team desperately needs another on ball player.

We need another player (besides Maxey) who will command Joel's respect, and for lack of a better word, force the ball out of his hands. This is what will get Joel more rest and hopefully set him up to be healthy in the playoffs.

The whole, role player depth/off ball player route, only puts more weight on Joel's shoulders imo, as he'd need to become more of a playmaker, with the ball in his hands more, to get the best out of role players who generally need to be set up by someone.

Also, an on ball scorer alleviates some Maxeys responsibilities during the 1/3 of the season Joel is injured and not playing.

I agree that they need another on ball guy.

And that guy either needs to be an absolutely elite on ball guy (not Ingram), or also be an effective off ball guy (also probably not Ingram).

Jimmy fits the first category, PG fits the 2nd.

[Negrodamus]

Monk provides all the offensive flexibility we need. Just need to hide him on defense.

[PhillyFan11]

Monk provides all the offensive flexibility we need. Just need to hide him on defense.

Kinda hard to hide BOTH of your guards at the same on defense isn’t it?

[Negrodamus]

Monk provides all the offensive flexibility we need. Just need to hide him on defense.

Kinda hard to hide BOTH of your guards at the same on defense isn’t it?

Portland did it for a decade and didn’t have a former MVP at center.

[PhillyFan11]

Monk provides all the offensive flexibility we need. Just need to hide him on defense.

Kinda hard to hide BOTH of your guards at the same on defense isn’t it?

Portland did it for a decade and didn’t have a former MVP at center.

A team that also couldn’t get out of the 2nd round of the playoffs, except 1 year where they got swept in the conference finals.
Also not sure Maxey and Monk is = to prime Dame and CJ.

[mjkvol]

Kinda hard to hide BOTH of your guards at the same on defense isn’t it?

Portland did it for a decade and didn’t have a former MVP at center.

A team that also couldn’t get out of the 2nd round of the playoffs, except 1 year where they got swept in the conference finals.
Also not sure Maxey and Monk is = to prime Dame and CJ.

Prime age Lillard/McCollum with a younger Embiid wouldn't have gotten out of the 2nd round?

Stop.

[Negrodamus]

Kinda hard to hide BOTH of your guards at the same on defense isn’t it?

Portland did it for a decade and didn’t have a former MVP at center.

A team that also couldn’t get out of the 2nd round of the playoffs, except 1 year where they got swept in the conference finals.
Also not sure Maxey and Monk is = to prime Dame and CJ.

Not sure Nurkic at any point in his career is in the same galaxy as Embiid right now on one leg.

[SixersSince82]

Monk provides all the offensive flexibility we need. Just need to hide him on defense.

Kinda hard to hide BOTH of your guards at the same on defense isn’t it?

Portland did it for a decade and didn’t have a former MVP at center.

Oh man, just my opinion, but I dont see that era Portland team as an example of anything any other team should try to replicate.

[Negrodamus]

Kinda hard to hide BOTH of your guards at the same on defense isn’t it?

Portland did it for a decade and didn’t have a former MVP at center.

Oh man, just my opinion, but I dont see that era Portland team as an example of anything any other team should try to replicate.

It's not, we have a 7'2 MVP candidate, they had a 6'0 MVP candidate.

I'm simply stating that a team who made the WCF (and ran into one of the most insanely stacked teams of all time) figured out how to succeed with two scoring guards with defensive deficiencies. I'd rather take a shot on that than mortgage our future by dumping 3+ firsts on an aging star or a deeply flawed star. We would have the cap flexibility to put defensive role players around Maxey and Monk.

[SixersSince82]

I'm simply stating that a team who made the WCF (and ran into one of the most insanely stacked teams of all time) figured out how to succeed with two scoring guards with defensive deficiencies. I'd rather take a shot on that than mortgage our future by dumping 3+ firsts on an aging star or a deeply flawed star. We would have the cap flexibility to put defensive role players around Maxey and Monk.

I can agree with you there. I'm not in favor of trading multiple picks for an aging star either. I just can't see Monk as a starter next to Maxey. I'd like him in that 6th man role, tho.

[Negrodamus]

I can agree with you there. I'm not in favor of trading multiple picks for an aging star either. I just can't see Monk as a starter next to Maxey. I'd like him in that 6th man role, tho.

I can understand the apprehension. That said, I see Monk as a guy about to make a CJ McCollum jump, so to lock him up while he’s cheap will offer more flexibility down the road if he becomes a fringe star. Also his trade value would be huge.

[the_process]

If you get Trent and Monk, that could work with Maxey. I hear the idea of grabbing a guy before he breaks out, but doubtful Monk is the right archetype for that blossoming. Maybe.

The idea that McCollum and Lillard were successful together is highly debatable. Only under some diminished expectation bar where a team never expects to actually win anything, but rather wants just to compete, could they be called successful.

Also, I’m not sure even Embiid could cover for two defensive liabilities like Lillard and McCollum. And I feel like he wouldn’t want to, anyway.

[LeonJordanJr24]

Brandon Ingram is the best move in my opinion along with resigning oubre. Guys with actually reliant scoring talent and some relative long term youth. The goal being give Maxey a running mate so Embiid can be preserved play less of a high work load and focus on elite anchoring defense and hitting more open shots. Long term career type trajectory so this team can rely on Maxey and a mature all world winning version of Embiid.

Jimmy is the safe win now move. But he's getting older and not really a fan of insanity over and over .

[elchengue20]

If you get Trent and Monk, that could work with Maxey. I hear the idea of grabbing a guy before he breaks out, but doubtful Monk is the right archetype for that blossoming. Maybe.

The idea that McCollum and Lillard were successful together is highly debatable. Only under some diminished expectation bar where a team never expects to actually win anything, but rather wants just to compete, could they be called successful.

Also, I’m not sure even Embiid could cover for two defensive liabilities like Lillard and McCollum. And I feel like he wouldn’t want to, anyway.

Dame + CJ was definetively not a success given their talent level. Dame was a top 10 player during his peak and only has one WCF to show for it, most years they were a fun but not really relevant team.

They didn't have enough inside scoring, lenght, defense, hustle to really compete when it mattered.

Someone like Jimmy is really an ideal fit for Maxey, a big combo guard. It's a shame he's old tho.

[Embiid P]

Brandon Ingram is the best move in my opinion along with resigning oubre. Guys with actually reliant scoring talent and some relative long term youth. The goal being give Maxey a running mate so Embiid can be preserved play less of a high work load and focus on elite anchoring defense and hitting more open shots. Long term career type trajectory so this team can rely on Maxey and a mature all world winning version of Embiid.

Jimmy is the safe win now move. But he's getting older and not really a fan of insanity over and over .

Agree with this. Ingram has his flaws no doubt, but he is seemingly the best option available all things considered (age, size, position, fit, etc.) It doesn't bother me too that much that he is a better on-the-ball scorer than he is off-the-ball. I thought that the goal here was to try to take the ball out of Embiid's hands more in order to preserve his stamina during the grind of the regular season and playoffs. Is it not? Ingram would definitely help in that regard along with the minutes that Embiid sits when we normally get killed.