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sports savant · Post #41 » by **sports savant** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 4:08 pm

sec-106 wrote:If the Kidd to DAL deal fall thru, would you take Harris+Diop+expirings for Miller+Booth?

Would DAL?

I dont think Dallas would even take Miller for Harris. I know I wouldn't- if I was Dallas.

I'd trade Miller and Utah's #1 pick for Harris!! I might even trade Iggy for Harris

THFM · Post #42 » by **THFM** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 4:33 pm

sports savant wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

I dont think Dallas would even take Miller for Harris. I know I wouldn't- if I was Dallas.

I'd trade Miller and Utah's #1 pick for Harris!! I might even trade Iggy for Harris

Iggy for Harris? Whoa get off the Kool Aid...

sports savant · Post #43 » by **sports savant** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 4:54 pm

THFM wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Iggy for Harris? Whoa get off the Kool Aid...

how much do you know about Harris??? The kid is really good, locked in for 5yrs under what Iggy wants and he's a PG who can penetrate and shoot.

and I said I MIGHT..... i'd have to think about it.

im not sure what makes Iggy so fantastic. we still got THAD at the #3 and SG's who cant shoot are all across the league, and much easier to get in the draft!!

but Miller for Harris id do any second of the day--- AND i'd throw in the Utah pick we got for Korver.

THFM · Post #44 » by **THFM** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 5:19 pm

sports savant wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

how much do you know about Harris??? The kid is really good, locked in for 5yrs under what Iggy wants and he's a PG who can penetrate and shoot.

and I said I MIGHT..... i'd have to think about it.

im not sure what makes Iggy so fantastic. we still got THAD at the #3 and SG's who cant shoot are all across the league, and much easier to get in the draft!!

but Miller for Harris id do any second of the day--- AND i'd throw in the Utah pick we got for Korver.

Miller I would do for Harris, but for Iggy? Don't get me wrong Harris is good, but let's not forget he plays with Dirk, Jason Terry, and Josh Howard. At least we know what Iggy is capable when he is the loner on the team. Give Harris this same team with NO Iggy or Miller I don't know how good Harris will be. I think he is one of those players who's more successful when you surrond him with talent. I'm already impressed with what Iggy can do alone with not a lot of help.

sec-106 · Post #45 » by **sec-106** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 5:57 pm

sec-106 wrote:If the Kidd to DAL deal fall thru, would you take Harris+Diop+expirings for Miller+Booth?

Would DAL?

My point is that if Kidd falls thru, DAL takes an psychological risk keeping Harris. May be nothing, may be something.

They get "Kidd-light" (saving $16M thru 2009) and can keep their two 1st round picks.

If Cuban feels he can't stand pat, that's not too bad a deal (at least as a starting point).

My feeling is, if DAL makes no moves by Thurs., they may not get out of the 1st round. Again.

wow444 · Post #46 » by **wow444** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 7:46 pm

sec-106 wrote:If the Kidd to DAL deal fall thru, would you take Harris+Diop+expirings for Miller+Booth?

Would DAL?

I'd want Bass or a first also.

Post #47 » by **The Guilty Party** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 11:26 pm

It'll be interesting if Dallas stays put or tries to make another move. I've said this all along, but if Dallas calls Stefanski and offer Harris and filler for Miller... he has to pull the trigger.

Post #48 » by **Stanford** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 12:37 am

Kidd is being aquired because of his name. So even though Miller is having just as good of a season, Dallas wouldn't even think about trading a very good young player like Harris for him.

Post #49 » by **The Guilty Party** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 12:56 am

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3250819

According to ESPN the Jason Kidd trade is back on with the deal now being the following..

TO DAL: Kidd and Allen
TO NJN: Harris, Diop, Ager, Hassell, Van Horn, 2 first round picks, $3 MIL cash

KVH will sign a $4MIL deal which will NOT be prorated and mean that he will receive all $4MIL even though we're now past the All-Star break. He has to report to NJ and take a physical.

What is Dallas doing?? George gave them a chance to wake up and realize that what a bad deal this is. Jason Kidd *might* have a year and half left in that body.

freshie2 · Post #50 » by **freshie2** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 1:31 am

Really, it's just a Kidd for Harris deal. Dallas is going into win now mode...and they probably do need to. Dirk and Howard are great, but the club has been at this level for a long time and need to take a shot. Not sure how Kidd fits or upgrades their club, but he's averaging nearly a triple double and is better than Harris at this time.

The Western conference playoffs are going to be very interesting this year. Dallas, LAL, SA, and Phoenix are all so close and Denver, GS, Utah and Houston could win a series shocker as well. This post season could be a great one.

sports savant · Post #51 » by **sports savant** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 1:33 am

the Kidd deal is going to get done... BUT how does anyone on this board think that Andre Miller would get us anything in addition to Harris???

It confuses me?? we would not be getting Diop or Ager or anything.

seriously-- we might need to give up a pick!

Post #52 » by **Sixerscan** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 1:40 am

Because Miller is better than Kidd right now and he costs less?

Dallas is trading for a name.

sports savant · Post #53 » by **sports savant** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 2:03 am

Sixerscan wrote:Because Miller is better than Kidd right now and he costs less?

Dallas is trading for a name.

I totally disagree that Miller is better. J Kidd is def on the downside of his career, but he's still better than Miller especially for Dallas. (maybe not for the 76ers) but absolutely for Mavs...

Post #54 » by **Sixerscan** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 2:10 am

Dallas' whole system ever since Avery got there has been walk the ball up and do isos. That's a terrible fit for Kidd.

Post #55 » by **The Guilty Party** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 2:10 am

I agree with Sixerscan... Dallas is trading for a name hence I think this is a big mistake for the Mavs. When are the two picks to be given up?? '09 and '11? If so, that '11 pick has a chance to be something decent.

PrimeTime21 · Post #56 » by **PrimeTime21** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 2:11 am

Dallas are absolutely nuts to do this trade, they are trading half their roster for an old guy...basically a pissing match going on in the Western Conference and Cuban doesn't want to lose.

Post #57 » by **Stanford** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 2:12 am

The Guilty Party wrote:I agree with Sixerscan... Dallas is trading for a name hence I think this is a big mistake for the Mavs. When are the two picks to be given up?? '09 and '11? If so, that '11 pick has a chance to be something decent.

And stanford, who said it first

Post #58 » by **The Guilty Party** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 2:18 am

Sure sure... but I can't give credit to anyone with that avatar. :-)

freshie2 · Post #59 » by **freshie2** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 2:39 am

Agree...the tempo fit is bad, and I think a more slow tempo PG (like Miller) is a better fit in NJ as well. Harris is a mis fit there, but they apparently want to rebuild around him and change the whole face of the franchise. Will be tough to deal Carter, but I'm sure they are trying.

Post #60 » by **The Guilty Party** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 3:55 am

According to Chris Sheridan of espn (a bag of douche), there are a lot of rumors flying around down in NOLA with one of the hottest ones being Jermaine O'Neal going to Nets before the deadline. I guess the Nets would be sending Carter to Indiana which makes little sense given where Vince is in his career and where the Pacers are as a team. Then again, JOB loves people who play little D and jack up 23 footers so Vince is a fit.

Also, the Warriors are supposedly the second busiest team on the phones next the Nuggets. It'll be interesting to see if GSW deals it's $9.9 MIL TE from the Richardson deal or Brandan Wright.