Sixers Offseason thread/ sixerfan1976 updated to page 84

[EugeneBWhitaker]

@ sixerfan1976 Do you know what position the sixers want E.T to play next season and going forward? SG or SF? and what position do you see best fits him?

depends who they acquire..they think he can play both and it really doesnt matter what number you assign him. ball is going to be in his hands. the key is getting a shooter next to him and not another guy that likes the ball in his hands but cant score.

So what's the plan with Jrue Holiday? To ruin him some more like when they made Iguodala the point forward?

Given a choice - I believe they are choosing the wrong player to focus on

[LongLiveHinkie]

I know SF is saying that they love Henson and all, but I just can't see them trading Iguodala to take a step back after they went to game 7 of the semi-finals. I would be all for it if it was the right move, but would the organization really be willing to potentially become a non-playoff team after getting as far as they did. Especially an older coach like Doug?

[P2K]

Agree. Moving andre gives turner full time minutes to handle the ball. Gotta see what ya,have

They came to this conclusion after two seasons into Turner's career. Fantastic

Franchise full of money-stealing morons. Our team just enjoys working ass backwards.

[KrazySixersD]

I'm saying though...Jeremy Lamb said he would compare himself in the NBA to Jamal Crawford. That along with him looking like he's mentally slow would scare me away from risking a top 10 pick on him. And even though he's got long ass arms he wasn't too great of a defensive player in college. His just all around effort on the court sucks.

on iso defense he shut his opponent down with an insanely high percentage... its in his draft video on DX

he is a good defender

[sixerfan1976]

Andre is a nice player but i think we overvalue him some. Jefferson and wright and a projectable big makes team better. Also ball handler wise, turner can play backup pt..jruw can play off ball some. Their issue last year was three primary ball handlers. Have to move one

[sixerfan1976]

Andre is a nice player but i think we overvalue him some. Jefferson and wright and a projectable big makes team better. Also ball handler wise, turner can play backup pt..jruw can play off ball some. Their issue last year was three primary ball handlers. Have to move one

[KKell2507]

Rod Thorn said theres a top 5 and then the rest in this draft today. I personally think there is a top 6 in this draft: Davis, Beal, MKG, Robinson, Barnes, Drummond. Im not sure which he left out of his top 5(likely Drummond) but thats the top 6 in my opinion and then the rest.

As far as who would be there at 7, I would trade Iguodala to move up to 7 for any of those top 6. So obviously worst case scenario would be those 6 going 1-6. However its very interesting as to which might drop. If any were to drop, it would be Drummnd most likely. Portland is the key because they love Lillard and could take him at 6 instead of risking it hoping he falls to them at 11. Then that means the leftover of top 6 would be there at 7(most likely Drummond).

I honestly think we should do the GSW trade now or before the draft. Henson will obviously be there at 7 if we love him so much, and if for some strange reason hes not, one of the top 6 will be there. The thing for me is, if an Igodala to the Kings for 5, or Iguodala to the Blazers for 6 doesnt work for those teams, whats to say the 7th pick and something else for 5 or 6 wouldnt work? Would trading them perhaps a future protected pick or some 2nd rounders be enough to move up another 1 or 2 spots? Its a lot easier to move up a couple of spots in the draft than it is to move up 10 spots. So if we already have 7, try to move up again to guarantee one of those top 5 guys Rod Thorn was speaking of(or my top 6).

[KrazySixersD]

Krazy, you've been pretty dead on with your posts. I will be so sad/upset if we pass on Drummond for Henson. I really will. Additionally, if we keep 15 we can likely get Perry Jones or Jared Sullinger and have our 4/5 of the future set along with our 1/2 or 1/3 in Holiday/Turner. But really, what world are we living in where Drummond is not an automatic pick over Henson?

Holiday
Turner
Jefferson/Wright
#15/Young/Allen
Drummond/Vucevic

completely agree man... that team you listed... whether 15th pick is sullinger or pj3... that is a lineup that not only can win some games, but has an insanely bright future... i would be so ecstatic with that... even sullinger would fit in with drummond

[EugeneBWhitaker]

Andre is a nice player but i think we overvalue him some. Jefferson and wright and a projectable big makes team better. Also ball handler wise, turner can play backup pt..jruw can play off ball some. Their issue last year was three primary ball handlers. Have to move one

It doesn't make them better next season - no it absoultely doesn't

The organization over values Evan Turner - with little to no evidence to indicate he's worth it.

Handing the keys over to Turner is foolish, rebuilding I agree with, rebuilding around Evan Turner is guaranteed disaster in my opinion

[KKell2507]

SF-

I know its said that we dont want to take back RJs contract because 21 million for 2 more years is rough. However, would taking Biedrins back be any worse? Would they be more likely to do the deal if Biedrins replaced RJ?

2 years and 21 million for average production at SF or 2 years 18 million for almost no production at a much bigger position of need? Which would we be more likely to do?

Id prefer Biedrins just because maybe he turns it around with a change of scenery and the extra 3 million would be nice. Just my thinking though.

[JordanMars]

Would rather get Al JEfferson then all these scenarios but I'd take Henson or drummond

[sixerfan1976]

Andre is a nice player but i think we overvalue him some. Jefferson and wright and a projectable big makes team better. Also ball handler wise, turner can play backup pt..jruw can play off ball some. Their issue last year was three primary ball handlers. Have to move one

It doesn't make them better next season - no it absoultely doesn't

The organization over values Evan Turner - with little to no evidence to indicate he's worth it.

Handing the keys over to Turner is foolish, rebuilding I agree with, rebuilding around Evan Turner is guaranteed disaster in my opinion

I think adding scoring, block shots and eebounding (i think they go strong for humphries) makes them better, we sll have a right to our opinions

[Mik317]

Andre is a nice player but i think we overvalue him some. Jefferson and wright and a projectable big makes team better. Also ball handler wise, turner can play backup pt..jruw can play off ball some. Their issue last year was three primary ball handlers. Have to move one

It doesn't make them better next season - no it absoultely doesn't

The organization over values Evan Turner - with little to no evidence to indicate he's worth it.

Handing the keys over to Turner is foolish, rebuilding I agree with, rebuilding around Evan Turner is guaranteed disaster in my opinion

Sometimes you have to take the needed steps backwards to move forward.

If Turner isn't good enough, then we will find out and be done with it. Otherwise we would be sitting here questioning what ifs...

This gives Turner the needed rope to either hang himself with or use to get across the gap.

Not many downsides. Keeping Iggy would only keep us in this zone for longer and keep the whole question of if Turner is being held back or not over the heads of the team.

If the team isn't going to blow it up this the next best option.

[EugeneBWhitaker]

I think adding scoring, block shots and eebounding (i think they go strong for humphries) makes them better, we sll have a right to our opinions

They could add humphries and keep iguodala

Adding Humphries and trading away iguodala is at cross purposes (which isn't surprising)

You give up iguodala and replace him with turner you give up scoring right there, and defense.
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[phil e moose]

shot blocking? Is that allowed in the NBA? I forgot what it was like to have someone that can do that....

I'd be happy with Henson if they chose to go that route.

[EugeneBWhitaker]

Andre is a nice player but i think we overvalue him some. Jefferson and wright and a projectable big makes team better. Also ball handler wise, turner can play backup pt..jruw can play off ball some. Their issue last year was three primary ball handlers. Have to move one

It doesn't make them better next season - no it absoultely doesn't

The organization over values Evan Turner - with little to no evidence to indicate he's worth it.

Handing the keys over to Turner is foolish, rebuilding I agree with, rebuilding around Evan Turner is guaranteed disaster in my opinion

Sometimes you have to take the needed steps backwards to move forward.

If Turner isn't good enough, then we will find out and be done with it. Otherwise we would be sitting here questioning what ifs...

This gives Turner the needed rope to either hang himself with or use to get across the gap.

Not many downsides. Keeping Iggy would only keep us in this zone for longer and keep the whole question of if Turner is being held back or not over the heads of the team.

If the team isn't going to blow it up this the next best option.

Then why the hell would they target Kris Humphries

Not opposed to rebuilding, but the way they are going about it is stupid in my opinion, and adding kris humphries while giving up iguodala would just be another in a long line of foolish moves.

If everything sixerfan has said is accurate (which is impossible as some of it contradicts itself) - the sixers are clueless - and not fully committed to re-building.

[EugeneBWhitaker]

shot blocking? Is that allowed in the NBA? I forgot what it was like to have someone that can do that....

I'd be happy with Henson if they chose to go that route.

You should work on your short term memory - it wasn't that long ago the sixers had a great shot blocker - but he was a 'cancer' so they gave him up for the rabid republican

[Tension]

Never thought somebody would defend keeping Iggy with the argument of scoring

[EugeneBWhitaker]

Never thought somebody would defend keeping Iggy with the argument of scoring

I said he's better (more efficient) than Evan Turner

Evan Turner has shown nothing to warrant building a team around him

[sixerfan1976]

I sm not here to argue so i am out for the night. I will say we lost in plsyoffs because we couldnt score, couldnt rebound and couldnt block shots. Things they are looking at address sll 3. Im out.