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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#401 » by Kobblehead » Wed Nov 8, 2017 10:31 pm

spikeslovechild wrote:You are missing the point. The idea isn't to trade for Monroe because he has value it's an opportunity to dump bayless and Okafor to clear the cap for next year.

Why are you under the impression that Phoenix is looking to take on salary to dump Monroe? You realize that would be dumb on their part, right? They're just gauging the market for him before they buy him out and allow his salary to come off their books at the end of the year.
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Post#402 » by PhilasFinest » Wed Nov 8, 2017 10:57 pm

Still don’t think the Sixers are looking to “dump” Bayless like some say. On top of that, he’s injured.
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Post#403 » by ProcessDoctor » Thu Nov 9, 2017 1:56 am

Just out of curiosity, if Klay Thompson became available after this year's Finals, how much would you give up (if anything) for him knowing he's going to be an UFA the following season?
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Post#404 » by Sportfan73 » Thu Nov 9, 2017 2:09 am

sixers238 wrote:Just out of curiosity, if Klay Thompson became available after this year's Finals, how much would you give up (if anything) for him knowing he's going to be an UFA the following season?

A good amount. Bird rights are king at some point on a contender. Perfect fit.


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Post#405 » by Kobblehead » Thu Nov 9, 2017 2:13 am

I don't want to cough up assets. You develop into a top notch organization by keeping and using your draft picks and having a constant cycle of talent development.

If we want a impact player, we can have our stars recruit them and then sign them in free agency.
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Post#406 » by TTP » Thu Nov 9, 2017 2:14 am

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51X3RF4N wrote:Because when Embiid needs rest, or we don't want Amir/Saric at Center, and when Holmes is in foul trouble....just seems to make sense as a fit for the rest of the year as a backup for those nights when you need 2 legit NBA Centers.


Does Monroe qualify as a legit NBA C? He lacks the length you typically would want and doesn't have the spring to compensate for it. To me, he's just an old school PF, lost in the modern game. It's why he can drop 15 and 9 a night and no team really covets or knows what to do with him.

If we think Richaun doesn't do a good enough job at the 5 and don't trust Amir to play big minutes, I'd rather target Alex Len. The other expiring contract on Phoenix. I think he's an actual legit back-up C.


If we were to do this, the best target would be Bebe, especially with Poeltl playing well.
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Post#407 » by Unbreakable99 » Thu Nov 9, 2017 2:21 am

If Klay is made available this summer you have to try to get him. He’s the perfect fit at a good age who can play at a high level for 6 more years.
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Post#408 » by Ericb5 » Thu Nov 9, 2017 3:57 am

spikeslovechild wrote:You are missing the point. The idea isn't to trade for Monroe because he has value it's an opportunity to dump bayless and Okafor to clear the cap for next year.


It’s not the worst idea in the world, but I can’t see Bryan doing that. You could always dump Bayless in the summer by attaching a pick to him if need be.


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Post#409 » by clownclownclown » Thu Nov 9, 2017 4:56 am

Unbreakable99 wrote:If Klay is made available this summer you have to try to get him. He’s the perfect fit at a good age who can play at a high level for 6 more years.


His next year's salary looks great (19M) but then we'd have to give him a max for the following 5 years.
Its going to be tuff to balance salaries with Simmons and Fultz due for max contracts in that time period.
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Post#410 » by skones » Thu Nov 9, 2017 2:47 pm

If you guys are in the thick of things come December, what would you think about dealing bit parts for George Hill?

17-18: 20M
18-19: 19M
19-20: 18M (Only 1M Guaranteed)
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Post#411 » by BullyKing » Thu Nov 9, 2017 2:48 pm

skones wrote:If you guys are in the thick of things come December, what would you think about dealing bit parts for George Hill?

17-18: 20M
18-19: 19M
19-20: 18M (Only 1M Guaranteed)


No chance. You think we're giving up next season's cap space for George Hill?
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Post#412 » by skones » Thu Nov 9, 2017 3:02 pm

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skones wrote:If you guys are in the thick of things come December, what would you think about dealing bit parts for George Hill?

17-18: 20M
18-19: 19M
19-20: 18M (Only 1M Guaranteed)


No chance. You think we're giving up next season's cap space for George Hill?


Next seasons cap space? You've got what 62M Committed? That's plenty of space to operate. I don't see Philly as a LEGITIMATE destination for top talent until the 2019 Offseason at the earliest, in which cast Hill has zero effect. Who are you really going after in 2018? Putting all of your eggs in the Paul George basket?
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Post#413 » by BullyKing » Thu Nov 9, 2017 3:06 pm

skones wrote:
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skones wrote:If you guys are in the thick of things come December, what would you think about dealing bit parts for George Hill?

17-18: 20M
18-19: 19M
19-20: 18M (Only 1M Guaranteed)


No chance. You think we're giving up next season's cap space for George Hill?


Next seasons cap space? You've got what 62M Committed? That's plenty of space to operate. I don't see Philly as a LEGITIMATE destination for top talent until the 2019 Offseason at the earliest, in which cast Hill has zero effect. Who are you really going after in 2018? Putting all of your eggs in the Paul George basket?


Your numbers are off and will be further off once the Covington extension is finalized in a week. But obviously the Sixers disagree with you on being a LEGITIMATE destination for top talent - and even if they don't get top talent the money can be spent on better players than George Hill.

You're obviously thinking about a trade with the Kings but don't want the Bucks to be stuck with Hill yet appear shocked that the Sixers wouldn't want him also.
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Post#414 » by skones » Thu Nov 9, 2017 3:18 pm

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No chance. You think we're giving up next season's cap space for George Hill?


Next seasons cap space? You've got what 62M Committed? That's plenty of space to operate. I don't see Philly as a LEGITIMATE destination for top talent until the 2019 Offseason at the earliest, in which cast Hill has zero effect. Who are you really going after in 2018? Putting all of your eggs in the Paul George basket?


Your numbers are off and will be further off once the Covington extension is finalized in a week. But obviously the Sixers disagree with you on being a LEGITIMATE destination for top talent - and even if they don't get top talent the money can be spent on better players than George Hill.

You're obviously thinking about a trade with the Kings but don't want the Bucks to be stuck with Hill yet appear shocked that the Sixers wouldn't want him also.


Milwaukee has no need for Hill with Bledsoe in the fold and I think he's a good stop gap fit for Philly. It's not about being "stuck" with anyone. What I'm mostly "shocked" about is how "obviously" perturbed at the mere suggestion you are. Obviously a highly offensive question.
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Post#415 » by the_process » Thu Nov 9, 2017 3:24 pm

Wondering what the Covington extension will be. A straight 4/60 counting the 15M bump up this year?
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#416 » by the_process » Thu Nov 9, 2017 3:27 pm

skones wrote:If you guys are in the thick of things come December, what would you think about dealing bit parts for George Hill?

17-18: 20M
18-19: 19M
19-20: 18M (Only 1M Guaranteed)


Let me rephrase. Why are you curious if Philadelphia would be interested in trading for Sacramento’s PG?
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Post#417 » by BullyKing » Thu Nov 9, 2017 3:29 pm

skones wrote:
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Next seasons cap space? You've got what 62M Committed? That's plenty of space to operate. I don't see Philly as a LEGITIMATE destination for top talent until the 2019 Offseason at the earliest, in which cast Hill has zero effect. Who are you really going after in 2018? Putting all of your eggs in the Paul George basket?


Your numbers are off and will be further off once the Covington extension is finalized in a week. But obviously the Sixers disagree with you on being a LEGITIMATE destination for top talent - and even if they don't get top talent the money can be spent on better players than George Hill.

You're obviously thinking about a trade with the Kings but don't want the Bucks to be stuck with Hill yet appear shocked that the Sixers wouldn't want him also.


Milwaukee has no need for Hill with Bledsoe in the fold and I think he's a good stop gap fit for Philly. It's not about being "stuck" with anyone. What I'm mostly "shocked" about is how "obviously" perturbed at the mere suggestion you are. Obviously a highly offensive question.


You shouldn't be surprised that people react negatively when you ask if they would be interested in a player, they explain that they're saving their cap space for next season (which should be obvious to just about anyone that saw what the Sixers have done since the end of last season) and then respond by saying they're not a legitimate free agent destination.

But fine, I'll play along. Hill is making $20 million this season. All of the Sixers remaining cap space will be spent on Covington in six days. So how are the Sixers matching Hill's salary? Okafor is 5, where's the other 15 million coming from?
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#418 » by skones » Thu Nov 9, 2017 3:33 pm

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skones wrote:If you guys are in the thick of things come December, what would you think about dealing bit parts for George Hill?

17-18: 20M
18-19: 19M
19-20: 18M (Only 1M Guaranteed)


Let me rephrase. Why are you curious if Philadelphia would be interested in trading for Sacramento’s PG?


I think there's room for Milwaukee to bolster their front line with Koufos, Philly to get a good fit piece in Hill to play off Embiid and Simmons while playing mentor to Fultz for a season and a half while he matures, and Sacramento to go full in on the tank while getting a flyer piece in a guy like Okafor. Obviously if you think Hill's play this season is a reflection of actual player production as opposed to a product of his environment, it's a no go, but if you think he's George Hill of last year in a better situation, I hardly find his caliber of player as some sort of slap in the face addition.
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Post#419 » by skones » Thu Nov 9, 2017 3:36 pm

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Your numbers are off and will be further off once the Covington extension is finalized in a week. But obviously the Sixers disagree with you on being a LEGITIMATE destination for top talent - and even if they don't get top talent the money can be spent on better players than George Hill.

You're obviously thinking about a trade with the Kings but don't want the Bucks to be stuck with Hill yet appear shocked that the Sixers wouldn't want him also.


Milwaukee has no need for Hill with Bledsoe in the fold and I think he's a good stop gap fit for Philly. It's not about being "stuck" with anyone. What I'm mostly "shocked" about is how "obviously" perturbed at the mere suggestion you are. Obviously a highly offensive question.


You shouldn't be surprised that people react negatively when you ask if they would be interested in a player, they explain that they're saving their cap space for next season (which should be obvious to just about anyone that saw what the Sixers have done since the end of last season) and then respond by saying they're not a legitimate free agent destination.

But fine, I'll play along. Hill is making $20 million this season. All of the Sixers remaining cap space will be spent on Covington in six days. So how are the Sixers matching Hill's salary? Okafor is 5, where's the other 15 million coming from?


I'm a Milwaukee fan, and I don't respond negatively to that ever, because I'm realistic about where my franchise currently sits on the totem pole. I'm just really not interested in discussing with you any further.
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Post#420 » by 51X3RF4N » Thu Nov 9, 2017 3:37 pm

Hill costs too much money. Bottom line. Sixers need to pay Covington, and need to maintain flexibility for resigning guys like JJ and Amir to smaller deals over a few years, and need to keep some money available for potential free agents or high draft picks.

While there may be a lot of benefits to having Hill on the team, the money outweighs the benefits and I for one wouldn't want to pay him that much money to be a 7th or 8th man on the roster.
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